Bacharth Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) ((If you wish to join, sign here saying that you wish to become a member. Remember the eligibility. If you wish to take Scandinavian Lands under our protectorate, post here for a review, posting your plans for the land.)) PreambleThe Scandinavian Union focuses on bringing all Scandinavian countries together by having non-aggression between each country and an economic alliance in the Scandinavian peninsula. Article I: Eligibility In order to become a member of the Scandinavian Union, one must have part, some, or all of their national land in this area (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Karelia, Denmark, Jan Mayen, Iceland, Greenland, or the Faroes). To become a leader nation, one must have either participated in the creation of the pact and/or have their capital in mainland Scandinavia. To become an Observer, you must have land in the Scandinavian area, but cannot become a full member until your capital lies in the area. Article IIA: Mutual Defense The members of this pact agree to non-aggression. All members will recognize sovereignty of Scandinavian nations. If a member attacks a fellow member, all MDP nations will attack the belligerent. If an outside nation attacks a member nation, all MDP members will come to the defense. Article IIB: Optional Defense The members of this pact agree to non-aggression. All members will recognize sovereignty of Scandinavian nations. If member nation attacks another member, a signatory of IIB can choose whether to come to the aid of the victim depending on treaties. However, non-aggression is priority over all other treaties; no member will attack another member. If a member is attacked by an outside nation, a IIB signatory can choose whether to come to the aid of the victim, depending on treaties. Again, Non-Aggression takes priority. Article IIC: Non-Aggression The members of this pact agree to non-aggression. All members will recognize sovereignty of Scandinavian nations. A IIC signatory does not have any military obligations to other members, however agrees that they can be protected by other members. Article III: Economic Sharing All members agree to open trade within the union. No member will place sanctions on another member, and in a time of need, a nation will be required to help in some way. No member will create a central banking system for the Scandinavian Union. Article IV: Protection over Scandinavian Union Lands If a member nation falls into anarchy, its lands will become a protectorate of the union. If a party chooses to take control of all or part of these lands, they must make a request to the Union, showing their plans for the land. A majority vote will let the nation take control. Article V: Priority of Non-Aggression All members agree that no matter what treaty they have, they will not attack another member. This is of the highest priority. IIA Signed for Distopyan Norsvea, Abærøn Vinzent Sjette EXPELLED Signed for the Kingdom of Molakia, Tsar Nikolai Romanov, King of Molakia Viceroyal Mob Barely Commander Antonev Frolov IIB Signed for Armed Diplomats International, CEO: Baggs Q. Headington, esq. COO: Dr. Sherbert J. Komeil IIB Signed for Aesirreich Nordheim, Aesirleiter Dierik Týrsson Landers IIC Signed for Mariehamm Industries, Insert Signatures here Edited March 2, 2009 by VinceSixx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Martens Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 OOC: If it is alright I'd like to have a nation in the now freely available land and then join the pact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 OOC: Well, ITDA, Myself, and Mariehamm are the only signatories so far, so we shall vote. Just post what your IC plans for the land are, and we'll take a vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Martens Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 OOC: I do not know for sure. I'm thinking of an extremely militaristic state of a non-interventionist nature, very closed socially. A country by soldiers for soldiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 OOC: I do not know for sure. I'm thinking of an extremely militaristic state of a non-interventionist nature, very closed socially. A country by soldiers for soldiers. OOC: Mariehamm would support that, we're an arms company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) OOC: Alright. Sort of like Distopya when if first began. IC: Norsvea votes yes on (insert KM's nation here) taking control of the land in the protectorate. VOTING Yes: 2 No: 0 Not yet voted: 2 Edited March 2, 2009 by VinceSixx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Molakia will sign this, noting that it will choose the ODP option under Article IIB. Signed for the Kingdom of Molakia, Tsar Nikolai Alexandrovich Romanov II, King of Molakia Viceroyal Mob Barely Commander Antonev Frolov Edited March 2, 2009 by Comrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Molakia, what is your vote on this new nation requesting the land under our protectorate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Molakia votes NAY. (OOC: KM the walking military Machine? Oi!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Mariehamm Arms votes against Molakia's entry. "This nation is clearly counterproductive to Scandinavian unity and we refuse to work with them." We vote for yes for this new nation. Edited March 2, 2009 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) KM's NATION VOTING Yes: 2 No: 1 Not yet voted: 1 ADP will decide whether this is a tie or a win for the new nation. Norsvea also votes yes on the expulsion of Molakia. MOLAKIA'S EXPULSION Yes: 2 No: 0 Not yet voted: 1 Because it is a majority vote, Molakia is expelled from the union, automatically allowing ((KM)) to win the vote. Please sign the treaty and you will be granted your land and access into TSU. Edited March 2, 2009 by VinceSixx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (OOC: Quickest entry and Expulsion EVAR!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Martens Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 OOC: Aw. Poor molakia D : I'll go get the nation runnin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Terra Di Agea Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) "Well, despite it meaning nothing at this point, we would have voted, Yes on (KM's nation) Taking the protectorate." Also, Signed for Armed Diplomats International: CEO: Baggs Q. Headington, esq. COO: Dr. Sherbert J. Komeil OOC: It's ADI, not ADP. Please change that when you get the chance Edited March 2, 2009 by Il Terra Di Agea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Martens Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Underskrivð för Aesirreich Nordheim, Aesirleiter Dierik Týrsson Landers Edited March 2, 2009 by Kaiser Martens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californian Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 The Norden Kingdom wishes to join using the IIB article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted March 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Does anyone have any objections to the Norden Kingdom's entrance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Terra Di Agea Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 (edited) Does anyone have any objections to the Norden Kingdom's entrance? We do not object to putting it to a vote. That said, we must bring to attention the Norden Kingdom's admittance into the Dragon Bloc. By signing said document, they have giving up their military and ability to practice foreign affairs to Dragonisia, so we should rather ask, would we admit Dragonisia into the Scandinavian Union. Edited March 18, 2009 by Il Terra Di Agea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted March 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Norden Kingdom's Entrance Yes: 1 No: 0 Abstain: 0 Not Voted: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted March 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Because of your membership in the dragon bloc, Norsvea changes its vote to no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californian Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 (edited) Could the Norden please have an explanation? We joined the Dragon Bloc because it is an MDP Bloc. Our military is small and almost insignificant, this is a well known fact. If our pacifist country is to survive in this ever increasing militaristic world, we will need friends to help us out. We wish to join the Scandinavian Union because you are our brethren. We are close geographically and culturally, and this would be a great way for the Norden to engage in friendly relations with its neighbors. The problem is that all signatories except 1 only agree to the ODP portion of this charter. This means in times of war Norden could be easily defeated with the possibility of no help from this Union. Make no mistake, Norden desperately wishes to join its fellow Scandinavian countries in this Union, but do you not agree we should think about our defense and existence? Edited March 19, 2009 by Californian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted March 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 "The Dragon Bloc is essentially a federal republic. There are a few nations in there who have previously been enemies of the Distopyan society. Norsvea, being a Distopyan-based nation cannot possibly be tied to a nation tied to the dragon bloc." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Martens Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 "If you would decide to cancel your other Defense Treaties, then we should be able to arrange a good place for you in our defensive networks. If you are interested, let me know and I will find out for sure if this is a possibility." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Californian Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 "We have backed out of the Dragon Bloc for now (to a "pending" status) as it has caused unforeseen hostilities. We ask the Scandinavian Union: what does this Union offer to us over the Dragon Bloc? These ODPs can (and probably will) be useless in times of war, strong nations wouldn't give a second thought to bailing on a small nation about to be rolled. We support the Union in its aspects of trade, cultural identity, and neighbor relations, but in all honesty the Norden does not see how the Bloc will help us. We realize you may not be able to see this from our point of view as most of the Scandinavian countries are highly militarized, but our small nation relies on our allies to support us in war, one thing that the Dragon Bloc will do." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Martens Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 "Even if this very pact would not have a Mutually Defensive Clause, in case of you joining we would be open to making a SEPARATE defensive agreement. Although it can be argued that we do not have much to win from a realpolitik point of view, we wish to protect peoples of almost the same culture in spite of that, moreover you seem peaceful and reasonable, hence not dangerous to be allied with." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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