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Highlights from WCE: Part 13

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[20:16] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> Passion will fuel this fire and get alliances on our side, say thats unintelligent if you will but its right. That wont last long

01[20:16] <%TehChron> No, it wont

[20:16] <%pezstar> No. It won't.

[20:16] <%Voodoo> Daggarz, if people see us losing, passion means nothing

[20:16] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> yeah it will

This fire's out of control, it's gonna burn this city, burn this city.

[20:16] <%Rebel_Virginia> Sparta does have a fair amount of top tier nations. As much as I hate to admit it.

[20:16] <%pezstar> No.

[20:16] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> i can bet on it

01[20:16] <%TehChron> No, it wont

[20:16] <%Rebel_Virginia> And so does MHA.

01[20:16] <%TehChron> because GOONS wont stop

01[20:17] <%TehChron> and the longer they keep this up

[20:17] <%Rebel_Virginia> The TOP tier nations exist out there.

01[20:17] <%TehChron> the more enemies they make

[20:17] <%Rebel_Virginia> We can find them.

[20:17] <@Poyples> Sparta needs time to sort their crap out

[20:17] <@Poyples> apparently

[20:17] <@bud> RV you speaking in code

Love the sparta-bashing behind their back, and the assumption that we make enemies faster than we make friends.

[20:17] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> Sparta say they can possibly get MHA and at the very least keep them out

01[20:18] <%TehChron> that would end badly

[20:18] <@bud> they arent

[20:18] <%Rebel_Virginia> As for the top teir.

[20:18] <%Rebel_Virginia> You're right.

[20:18] <%Rebel_Virginia> No one here has a huge top tier.

I wonder what MHA would really think about all this.

[20:20] <~Schattenmann> <Grumpdogg[NpO]> apparantly the next time GOONS raids an alliance it will be a CB <-----This has happened 60 times since June

01[20:20] <%TehChron> Its a CB the moment the raided alliance decides it is

[20:20] <@HeroofTime55> We can set up a bait alliance, how viable might that be

[20:20] <@MegaAros> Fnka has treaties right?

[20:20] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> Schattenmann, make a forum. Let the alliances here sign up to it. Soon as a CB comes we can run on it. Call it the Lets take another five years forum

And so a new devilish plot is devised, one to trick us and trap us.

[20:20] <@HeroofTime55> 5 red nations, about 8-10k NS, no nukes

[20:22] <@HeroofTime55> the bait alliance would be a CoJ protectorate, announced sufficiently but not over emphasized

[20:22] <%Atlashill[invicta]> Set up a trap micro on Purple.

[20:22] <%bzelger[sTA]> CoJ and FAN could sell defending OcUK

[20:22] <@HeroofTime55> Schatt is the perfect man to demand 90m per war

Aw isn't that cute Schattenmann, HoT thinks you're politically important enough to demand 90m.

01[20:22] <%TehChron> then the next time GOONS raids an alliance

01[20:22] <%TehChron> then we can send Schatt to negotiate

I'm really looking forward to this.

[20:23] <%Rebel_Virginia> Also, OBR.

01[20:23] <%TehChron> ./wrist

[20:24] <@HeroofTime55> Where is OBR in on this

[20:24] <%pd73bassman[NoR]> just like TOP was hit

[20:24] <%pezstar> That is to get some solid, genuine commitments from folks, and just flat go aggressive. They're a threat, there you go.

[20:24] <%Rebel_Virginia> OBR may be worth approaching if this blows up.

Alas RV, I fear OBR would never fall for such a dumb ruse.

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I'm really looking forward to this.
Me too.

Love the sparta-bashing behind their back, and the assumption that we make enemies faster than we make friends.

The funny thing about having logs is that you literally dont have to leap to conclusions about what people meant, as you have their words right there.

I only said you guys would simply piss off more people.

Then again, if you stop doing the crap you've been doing to piss people off to begin with, thus denying people a justification for activating treaties, you'll only enable this WCE to win in the end. Without firing a shot, I may add.

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Then again, if you stop doing the crap you've been doing to piss people off to begin with, thus denying people a justification for activating treaties, you'll only enable this WCE to win in the end. Without firing a shot, I may add.

It certainly is easy to win when you change your definition of victory to be whatever the outcome is, eh?

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It certainly is easy to win when you change your definition of victory to be whatever the outcome is, eh?

Well, if the express purpose is putting an end to the stuff that makes people consider you a threat to begin with, eliminating the threat of your perceived thuggery up until this point fulfills that condition, doesn't it?

Kind of like how GOONS was able to beat this WCE without firing a shot, only since the involved parties realized it wasn't going to work out. Am I right? :v:

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Well, if the express purpose is putting an end to the stuff that makes people consider you a threat to begin with, eliminating the threat of your perceived thuggery up until this point fulfills that condition, doesn't it?

I thought the express purpose was putting an end to GOONS. However, now that you mention it:

(The night of October 4)

[23:59] <Ktarthan> Oh, by the way, I'm calling it now: All the stuff that went down in #[redacted] is an elaborate ploy to get GOONS to get their raiders in check

The thing is, even if this coalition wasn't formed, we'd still be working to get our raiders in check with no less effort. But hey, maybe tonight I'll make a coalition to destroy the sun for being on the other side of the world, and claim victory when it rises tomorrow.

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I thought the express purpose was putting an end to GOONS. However, now that you mention it:

The thing is, even if this coalition wasn't formed, we'd still be working to get our raiders in check with no less effort. But hey, maybe tonight I'll make a coalition to destroy the sun for being on the other side of the world, and claim victory when it rises tomorrow.

I like how you note that you won't be working any less hard to get your raiders in check as a result of this discussion having taken place. Because that was "absolutely" what I meant. :awesome:

But hey, you can't disprove the influence your eagerness to deny folks a CB will have on your finally reining in trigger-happy raiders in your alliance. And your analogy makes no sense, since I actually didnt move my goalposts at all. :v:

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I like how you note that you won't be working any less hard to get your raiders in check as a result of this discussion having taken place. Because that was "absolutely" what I meant. :awesome:

Actually that is kind of backward from what I said. I noted that we wouldn't be working less hard if the coalition was never formed.

But hey, you can't disprove the influence your eagerness to deny folks a CB will have on your finally reining in trigger-happy raiders in your alliance. And your analogy makes no sense, since I actually didnt move my goalposts at all. :v:

Actually my plan is to find any bait alliances that are put out for us, purposely raid it, then look Schatt straight in the eye and agree to the 90m. Then nobody wins! :v:

And yes, I am tired and I just realized my analogy did not make sense. I am not going to attempt another one, so I'll just say my point explicitly: The WCE can't really be that proud of influencing us to do something that would happen anyways. Yeah sure, call it a victory - but - maybe aim higher next time?

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