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  1. First of all, mid tier is between 40k and 80k.

     

    If you are going to do a mid tier thread, provide stats.  This has no content and pointless. 

     

    There are a few important things when discussing the mid tier battle.  For instances the amount of nations sitting at 12k tech but low infa.  These nations are the super mid tier nations and will eventually cost equilibrium the mid tier.  You simply won't out damage us and that is the point of war.  It's not about saving pixels, its about destroying your enemies pixels. 

     

    And yes, I'm having fun destroying equilibriums mid tier. I don't even need to pm for nukes; buy um and burn um gets her done. 

  2. Karma had the best build up.  Unfortunately the upper tier battle didn't last to long.  But hey, you can't have everything.  This war didn't exactly have a build up.  However, when competence pulls a victory and someone decides to pull a karma style public spectacle that leads to war, then you might have my vote.  However, it would still be a close battle with karma.

  3. Are you seriously calling us out for not having a "fair fight"?

     

    Gareths quote is ringing more true every time you post!

    Cute.  How else would you describe it other then a dog pile?  I'm just poking fun at the sheer amount of dogs your willing to sacrifice in an attempt to take down an elephant.  Some of these nations just won't be able to rebuild.  Wouldn't it be better, for your sake to try to plan for the next attempted take down?

  4. And you missed my point entirely. But that's not surprising, virtually your entire side is delusional at this point. Have fun winning, Charlie.

     

    Hey, whatever makes you sleep at night.  Soon your be to paranoid that an Umbrella nation will hit you that you won't be able to rest.  Enjoy your sleep while you can, soon you won't be able to.

    Coalition of Cowards?  Equilibrium-4,803 nations     Peace Mode-903-18%       Competence-1,748    Peace Mode-742-43%

     

    Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?-Matthew 7:3

    You read my post correct.  How many nations does it take to bring us down?  How many alliances?  That wasn't a pm joke, that was a man up and get them casualties post.  But, your side isn't exactly known for fair fights ;-)  I'm not saying that you will win, just laughing at your inability to handle 1 on 1 combat.

     

    I suppose I'm use to logging and see that plank as less of an issue then saw dust in the eye.  Saw dust is the eye can be blinding and make you lose sight of your surroundings while the plank will leave a mere bruise.  If I were you, I would be more worried about what tomorrow may bring, or is that why your leadership decided to add another shit alliance on top of the pile of shit alliances to try to combat a Gato entrance to the DH/DR front?  Desperate times have arrived my friend, desperate times indeed.

  5. Two Fark nations hit Darthcyfe. I don't think leadership said "Let's put Fark on GATO!" so much as those guys found some juicy slots.

    You missed my point entirely.  Are you incompetent enough to think that adding more horrible alliance to the coalition of cowards will solve your middle tier predicament?  I actually take that back, I should never underestimate your incompetency.

    Listen this is stupid.  This being jumping on GATO's ass.  GATO has been clear with absolutely everyone in regards to their position in this war.  If the majority of alliances in CN did this, we would all have a bit more fun.

     

    I hate that GATO is "on the other side" but lets be honest, at least part of that was forced.  

     

    People, all of us, use PM as we see fit.  No one has the right to make it into an issue at this point.  I can look at the wars and situations and see its need and use.

     

    Let.it.go.

    I can't believe that I'll say it but I agree with Brehon.  However, I will also say that you need as many as you can to even put a dent on your real target. By that I mean, making sure Gato  nations aren't able to jump in on the DH/DR front.

     

    Cheers to more war.  I can't wait to see Fark burn once more.

  6. I figured today's update would be slightly different (I'll run the war wide stats later in the week).  Rather today I decided to take a bit of a closer look at the state of large DH nations.

     

    Umbrella

     

    CubaQuerida

    To begin with, Umbrella's largest nation and king of the massively overpowered nuke, CubaQuerida is in peace mode.  Well at least until he ends up with 11 nuclear weapons.  In fact Cuba is not all that interesting, he's big, he's mean, and he just finished up an extremely destructive war with BubblerNation. For EQ though it isn't a great sign that Cuba was allowed to hop into peace mode and restock his nukes. Anyway, moving on to the war mode nations.


    magicalbricks

    To begin with we have magicalbricks and his angry cat war face.  Bricks is currently 188k NS and engaged solely in offensive actions against two EQ nations.  Arcticllama of the Dark Templar and danhawk of TIO.  Bricks' war with Llama runs from 2/5 to 2/13 and the damage favors Bricks, he's done 10k to Llama's 4k.  Bricks is down 196 tech, Llama is down 400 tech.  Danhawk's war is even more in favor of bricks.  He's done 15k in damage compared to 1.2k done by Dan.  What is even more impressive if bricks has lost 40 tech, Dan has lost 647 tech.  The land exchange is even uglier.  By the way, at the time of writing this, Danhawk has no other wars.  

     

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    Noob Cake

    Moving on to the next Umbrella nation, Noob Cake, he is engaged in three offensive wars and no defensive wars.  At 137k Noob Cake is fighting nations from Dark Templar, Argent, and NATO.  The Argent nation is doing comparable damage to Noob Cake, but the other two wars are heavily in Noob Cake's favor currently.  

     

    GrandPoobar

    The fourth strongest Umbrella nation, Poobar is also engaged in three offensive operations.  He's attacking a GLOF nation, a Dark Templar Nation, and a NATO nation.  Poobar is enjoying favorable damage exchanges (at least 2:1) in all three wars.  I'd take some screenshots of them, but then it would take me all day to do this, sorry guys.

     

    Iherud

    The fifth strongest Umbrella nation, at 135k NS, is also engaged solely in offensive operations.  Iherud is hitting Dark Templar, IRON, and TIO.   All damages are favorable to Iherud in at least 3:1, if not better.  

     

     

    JoshuaR 

    Reaching JoshuaR we find the first Umbrella nation who has an active defensive slot.  On 7 Feb DevastationStation of IRON attacked JoshuaR.  Things have been going well for DevastationStation, he's lost 5k strength compared to JoshuaR's 15k loss.  The tech exchange also benefits DevastationStation, he's lost 180 to JoshuaR's 734.  For the record though, DevastationStation is suffering heavy losses against Xavii of Umbrella.  JosshuaR's other war is going swimmingly well for for them, as he is fighting Globetrotter of TPF and JoshuaR has lost 0 NS since he declared on 2 Feb. Globetrotter has lost 25k NS. He has no other wars.

     

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    I assume Globetrotter is inactive, but still, wow.  JodhuaR found himself an upper tier tech raid in the midst of a global war...

     

    Xavii

    Xavii is the first war mode Umbrella nation I've found who has no offensive wars.  Xavii is the 7th strongest Umbrella nation and currently has 116k NS.  The damage exchange rates are favoring Xavii, and he has lost ~19k NS since the wars started on 7 Feb.  As a side note Xavii is fighting the same IRON nation as JoshuaR and has a much more favorable damage rate, so I assume Xavii is the Umbrella nation firing nukes at him.

     

    J2TheD

    Like Xavii, J2TheD has a pair of his defensive slots filled.  He is currently at 109k NS.  Against one IRON nation he is losing NS at a 1:1 ratio, the other war is in his favor by about 9:1.  DarkFox, the IRON nation performing at 1:1 against J2TheD, went from 79k on 3 Feb to 94k on 4 Feb.  He declared on J2TheD on 5 Feb.  This has really been what I was looking for, EQ nations having to buy up to remain in contact.  For the previous Umbrella nations I was looking at the people attacking them and trying to find NS spikes prior to a DoW, this is the first one I've found.  

     

    What is interesting here is DarkFox has dropped back down to 78k, so at the end of this war he'd have to repeat the rebuy to engage any Umbrella nation over 103k.  

     

    Kill Joy

    The number nine Umbrella nation, at 107k, has a pair of CoJ nations on him from 4 Feb and 6 Feb.  Kill Joy is on the losing end of the strength exchange of both of those wars, although the only war where CoJ has managed a exchange rate above 2:1 is a war where Kill Joy has lost 8k NS and Yamin Auk Zafar has lost 3k NS.

     

    What I find again though is an IRON nation who had to buy up.  In this case Lokvear of IRON engaged Kill Joy (and Natan) on 11 Feb.  On 6 Feb Lokvear went from 43k NS to 78k NS.  His NS chart then rises slowly, which I assume is from military purchases, until he reaches 82k NS and engages Kill Joy and Lokvear today.  

     

    Irons82

    The number 10 Umbrella nation features no defensive wars.  He's fighting one IRON nation, a Dark Templar nation, and a TPF nation.  The Dark Templar war is notable in that Irons82 has a 5:1 damage ratio.  The other two damage ratios are hovering in the 1:1 area, slightly favoring Irons.  

     

    Kwell

    The number 11 Umbrella nation is under attack by one IRON nation.  That IRON nation, Falcon IV, has dropped from 99k to 67k over the course of the war.  Falcon IV is at war with another Umbrella nation as well.  Kwell has lost 6k NS.  

     

    Rardie

    Radie is 98k NS and has three nations engaging him.  Two Molon Labe and one NATO.  Sixgun, the first ML nation to engage, declared on 6 Feb.  On 5 Feb, Sixgun went from 82k NS to 88k NS.  Aggierebel96, the second ML nation, declared on 9 Feb.  On 3 Feb he went from 74k to 92k NS.  The NATO nation, gpn777 is a larger nation who has just been getting smaller as the war goes on.

     

    threefingeredguy

    Threefingeredguy is the 13th largest Umbrella nation and currently fighting two defensive wars.  His war with Souleater of RnR is a 1:1 damage exchange, but Onion of Argent has done 17k damage versus 4k damage done by threefingeredguy.  

     

    I cut off my Umbrella monitoring here.  At this point smaller EQ nations can engage from the 60k to 70k NS range without needing to buy up.  However based on the above this is what I come up with for the top Umbrella nations:

     

    12 War Mode/1 Peace Mode: 36 open defensive slots

    Defensive Slots Filled: 14 

    Defensive Slots By Nations That Had To Buy Up:  3 

     

    Now this is a small sample size, but looking at this upper tier you see nations who have no defensive wars and can pick and chose their targets.  EQ only has 38.9% of the defensive slots filled here.  Out of those slots filled, 21.4% required a nation to buy up and engage, which is a warchest draining activity.  

     

    Doombird Doomcave

    Doombird Doomcave has 11 more nations over 100k NS, with 6 of them in war mode.  The largest, Methax, has no wars and is restocking nukes.  From the remaining five the highlights are:

     

    lebubu

    All offensive wars, two of them in his favor.  The third a 1:1 tie with acticllama (although they've each just lost ~600 NS).  

     

    pudge1975

    Two offensive wars, no defensive wars.  Both wars are in his favor by ~2:1.

     

    TBRaiders

    Three offensive wars, two in his favor, one in the favor of NEW.

     

    WhatOnceWas

    Three offensive wars, all in his favor.

     

    Marcus Bellator

    Two defensive wars.  Both wars are in Marcus Bellator's favor.  

     

    So for the Doomcave we have:

     

    18 Defensive Slots

    2 Defensive Slots Taken (22%)

    No buy ups to engage.  

     

    Mushroom Kingdom

     

    MK Top 10: 5 in war mode, 15 Total Defensive Slots

    1 Defensive Slot Taken (7%)

    No buy ups to engage

     

    If you dig around enough, you can find buyups on the MK front as well.  Kryievla went from 55 to 76k and is Drai of MK's sole defensive war.  None in the top ten though.  

     

    The Big Picture

    When you sum up the sample I've taken here you see:

    69 total defensive slots

    17 defensive slots taken (25%)

    3 buy ups to engage (17% of the wars declared)

     

    So the good thing for EQ is they haven't had to order a lot of buy ups to engage the upper tier, of the course the bad thing is they're not really engaging the upper tier.  Umbrella now has a number of offensive wars against EQ forces that started out the war on the 'TOP Front'.  Other large Doomhouse nations have cycled into peace mode to rearm, get out of anarchy, and do whatever else they want.  Some of the largest DH nations feel so confident they won't be attacked they're sitting in war mode and rebuying their nukes.  

     

    Now I picked the DH front to perform this sample, because this was the front where fighting began and EQ was able to array their pick of nations and I was curious to see how that was playing out.  IRON is the most active of the original five right now, while the NPO and AI are not major factors this high up.  DH seems to be focusing its offensive wars on TIO, NATO, and people from the TOP Front as opposed to down declaring.  

     

    Even where DH is being attacked, its always the bottom of their top ten.  The big guys with massive tech stockpiles are just hanging out and conducting solely offensive operations.  It appears as if Doomhouse has reached a point where they have 25+ nations that are free to cycle in and out of peace mode to rearm and conduct offensive operations at will.  It is also important to keep in mind I didn't even look at VE or Mortal Wombat who are also engaged on this front.  

     

    As to what those offensive operations are, some focus appears to be on TIO and NATO, mostly by MK nations.  Umbrella nations from this sample appear to be focusing on pulling some heat off TOP.  I likely sound a bit like a broken record, but when your strategic goal in this war was to end the Umbrella tech stockpile but the war plays out such that the largest Umbrella nations are conducting operations on their terms, that isn't a good sign.  

     

    The other issue this brings up is the long term viability of the shark tank.  The biggest DH nations seem to be cruising around right now and clearing out any EQ nations that are hanging around in dark corners.  The moment you've cleared out everything big, you can order your nations in the shark tank to buy infra and jump clear.  Yevengi Luchenkov summed up that option very concisely.  EQ can of course also buy up, but with EQ having a lesser tech stockpile they'll need more infra to reach the same level.  

     

    One of the angles with DMZ and tech dealing that I think has been overlooked is if DH might actually be able to clear a safe zone for their tech sellers.  In the sub 6k NS range, millions in aid and thousands of soldiers can be decisive.  So small GOONS and Deinos nations can take in 15 million and 10k in soldiers, go rampaging around and send tech back up to larger nations.  If FACs are purchased, even more money can move down.  As long as the small nations are careful not to grow into the range of EQ nations with military wonders who dropped in NS, they'll be fine.  EQ can of course counter with its own aid packets, but that point EQ is double dipping in terms of warchest drain since they need to purchase infra and fund the ground wars between the tech sellers.  It also opens the door to make it easier to jump out of the shark tank.  A DH nation can buy infra/land/whatever to gain NS and then cap it off by accepting 300 tech in foreign aid to jump clear and bump their damage modifier back up. 

    Hey, I got mentioned :-)  I would also like to point out that I've done nearly double the damage I've taken in all 8 of my wars.  If that isn't a victory, I don't know what is. 

  7. This war has been a blast and I fully expect the eq forces to pay for my tech for the next 3 to 6 months due to their failure to beat us down when they came at us.  That being said, if they do not agree to those terms, I can continue fighting for the next year.  I still haven't been able to nuke a NPO nation :-( 

  8. [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1356936419' post='3069726']
    (kwell,) I'm just hoping that while you have your eyes open you should be able to see that your house is made out of glass before you start tossing stones.
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    Don't worry, my tech levels allow me to have glass walls that a barrage of nuclear weapons can't penetrate. Don't worry, your get there someday.


    [quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1356973642' post='3069813']
    Amusing, given your little casualties for someone your size, I would say it is you who needs to grow some balls.
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    I know, its totally my fault that I grew my nation to the point of irrelevance and each opponent I face is either fully engaged or in pm. All I can do is build my wc to the point where I can rebuild from zi multiple times while still buying tech. I mean, seriously, you want to talk about problems with my nation, you ought to point out my tech:infa ratio: not even 1:1 yet. Learn how to be critical before making dumb statements.

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