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  6. 15 Years

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    I do owe GATO.  GATO's disastrous performance in Great War Two from at first accidently declaring war on the entire Imitative to its GPA like war fighting skills as I fought beside them in the League was an eye opener.  That incompetence lead me to a new path an Unjust Path.  Other than that i have no idea what GATO has been doing since.  So here is to 15 years of doing whatever it is you do.  Maybe you have spent the entire time voting on things idk. 

  11. Two Betrayals DoW

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    15 hours ago, citizenkane said:

    The more and more that one applies logic and cold hard facts to this scenario; the more it becomes apparent that NPO are without morality, honour, and integrity. 

     

    Your citizens do not get put in prison without knowing what they are in prison for. 

    You do not punish your children without telling them the reason. 

    You communicate with your allies when you're about to hit one of their allies 

     

    In this scenario, I strongly feel that NPO are acting, quite frankly, as a rogue alliance and should be treated as such. 

     

    Any form of sovereignty; any form of legitimacy from NPO walked out the door with this DOW. 

     

    Lets call NPO what they really are, instead of hiding behind a lie of integrity, honour and trust: They are rogue, they are outsiders, they are not to be trusted, and most importantly - they arent good allies. . 

     

    Well yeah that has been NPO for decade at least, nobody would really deny it. 

  12. Two Betrayals DoW

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    4 hours ago, kerschbs said:


    We’re all a little confused. If it’s the annual curb stump they should have the fortitude to just say so instead of hiding behind some false pretense of a legitimate CB. 

     

    I suspect somebody was reading some Planer Bob history and hey way back we used to just claim people broke treaty terms and we could attack them to when were bored. Lets do that again.  

  14. War of Nurture

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    8 hours ago, lilweirdward said:


    It's hilarious to me that anyone from Polar still has the nerve to talk about KoRT's fighting ability. Didn't you guys just get out damaged by them last year? Oh wait you did!

     

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    It does make it even funnier that the guy doing the trash talking had the least amount of destruction in the whole war. Maybe sit this one out, buddy.

     

     

    I do not even remember a war with them and that is not a good sign.  I do not enjoy beating on dead nations.  However looking at what they are doing now do you deny they suck?  Cause I could go into the past a find even Sparta not completely falling apart in war and it would not change the fact they do now.  I mean I remember when GOD killed CCC that was an enjoyable DoW.  

  15. War of Nurture

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    On 1/3/2021 at 2:06 PM, Lord Hitchcock said:

    Another Cobra Public Relations disaster.
     

    It is hilarious to see Johnny with his Used Car Salesman pitch and attempting to paint KORT as the boogie man. 
     

     

     

    I get that KORT is incompetent and seems to  have the fighting ability somewhere between Sparta and GPA so it is hard to consider them a boogie man and more just a waste of oxygen.  Still at least something is happening.  And that is a good thing no matter how you paint it.  

  22. CLAWS Memo Re: WFH - For Immediate Release

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    30 minutes ago, James Spanier said:

     

    Where to begin with your projectionism.

     

    I'll humor you and avoid debating the merits of the CB in this response, though I have a feeling the only reason you wouldn't want to is because just about everyone involved (and a good few not involved) have conceded to the validity of the CB already.

     

    First off, your own contradiction that nobody cares while also going out of your way to repeatedly decry the CB as shoddy within this thread. By stating your opinion in the thread you've established that you care, at least enough to build your own narrative around it (and then share it). Good on you, contributing to the community and helping to stave off the ever looming entropy of inactivity. You should really be more willing to recognize your own input as part of the discussion.

     

    As for the the suggestion that two factions that have underlying tensions between them might want a fight with one another...I'm not sure why you think that it somehow makes or breaks the validity of the CB that eventually comes up. If Polar really wanted a fight with Argent and one of my members went and raided your nation, then when Buuyo DM'd me about it I told him to do something about it and blocked him, is that CB crap because Polar wanted the fight? Or because I implied I wanted it to happen? A CB is a CB, it stands (or doesn't) on its own merits. They can be fabricated or intentional sure, but they can also be (conveniently) valid. If you'd like to provide some reasoning for your stance on this particular CB and why it deserves a particular combination of descriptive words, by all means indulge.

     

    To the larger point that CLAWS just really wanted this fight and should have just said so, as far as I can tell that's not actively the case here. There were several incidents that nearly led to war before this involving CLAWS and COBRAsphere, however they were all resolved. This instance had no real opportunity for diplomatic recourse and war resulted. If CLAWS really wanted this fight they could have cited some dumb dual membership thing with DBDC or even the Kids Next Door and forced a war over that. So far as I can tell most of their issues are with COBRA, so they could have also extrapolated the 'we' Lucius used in the logs to mean COBRA and opened a front with them. They could even use JA admitting he got the same sort of message from TDE as cause for war right now if that's all they wanted.

     

    Finally, if you yourself say we have to defend this, but also posit that nobody uninvolved cares, why would anyone involved then care enough to cater to your demand to meet you at your level of dumbing things down into their most basic forms? If anything that sounds like a you problem.

     

    I am not reading that, somebody brief me

  23. CLAWS Memo Re: WFH - For Immediate Release

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    18 hours ago, James Spanier said:

     

    Ah yes, we have such great historical CB's that started global wars as "Doom lmao", "For Dave!" (note that Dave's crime he was being "protected" from was espionage), and "Past grievances." To say nothing of conflicts that boil down to "you're toxic!" or smaller wars with great reasons like "you suck!"

     

    What if we look for wars where espionage was cited? In no particular order:

    PNU-Polar War (February 2013) - PNU uses Polar's guides.

    PB-NpO War (January 2011) - Polar accepts intel on VE.

    Great War III (March 2007) - GATO accused of spying on Pacifica and "harboring intentions of hostility."

    Karma War (April 2009) - OV accepts stolen screenshots.

    Legion-Tetris War (October 2011) - Tetris member reposts screenshots of Legion's forums.

    Legion-Valhalla War (August 2007) - Legion members spy on Valhalla.

    TPF War (December 2009) - Athens says TPF sent spies to Athens during Karma War.

    Eight Minute War (April 2009) - MK accuses UBD of espionage.

    Second Polar War (May 2006) - NAAC accused of spying on Pacifica.

    NPO-BDC War (July 2008) - BDC MoFA idles in Pacifican private IRC channels for a few hours.

    Citrus War (February 2006) - ODN spy self inserts into Pacifica.

    SOS Brigade-NsO War (June 2011) - NsO attempts espionage and poaching on SOS Brigade.

    Wolfpack War (March 2008) - Wolfpack accused of spying on IRON and one of their protectorates.

     

    These are ones I remembered or got just randomly clicking around on the wiki. Keep in mind, several of these wars happened merely on allegations, they didn't have clear screenies of gov members sponsoring this behavior. There are bound to be more examples, and as you see, they date all the way back to 2006. So can you please tell me when "back in the day" was?

     

    You are  making my point.  There was a time when people cared and shoddy CB was called out, now nobody cares so why bother with it at all.  This one is at the Athens TPF level which nobody took serious not even the people starting the war.  You have to defend this, they have to attack it but for the rest of us who have no dog in the fight we don't care what crap CB you come up with just come out and say you wanted to attack them.  Their is no popular opinon to win over so a lame CB has no point.  Nobody cares any more. 

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