Das Blitzkrieger
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I would like to point out that getting "rolled" early on is not crippling if you are prepared, and no excuse for an inability to recover afterwards. Fata1ity's back collect after fighting us was a prime example of that. In fact, no TPC nation even took a nuke. If you go into a war with a proper warchest, you will be able to recover, no matter how hard you get hit.You rolled all of TPC's elites except for their flag runner which is the primary reason why he was able to jump ahead, even ahead of all those who donated. TPC as an alliance are more stronger than any single nation could ever be so by crippling TPC, you effectively stalled any chance they may have had for more flags and deterring them as an aggressive threat. You could have hit alliances with higher NS and ANS but you chose TPC first for strategic reasons.
If your rich nations had spent their cash then they'd have handed over the individual flags.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbXnLn5-7MA
I heard, that you went to war.
That you, found TPC and you're fighting now.
I heard that your dreams came true.
Guess TPC gave you things, we couldn't give to you.
Old friends, why are you so shy?
It ain't like you to hug infra, so why, TPC why?.
I hate to turn up into a war uninvited.
But I couldn't stay away, I couldn't fight it.
I'd hoped you'd see us fight & that you'd be reminded,
That for us, it isn't over.
Nevermind, I'll find alliances like you.
I wish nothing but the best, for you too.
Don't forget me, I beg, I remember you said:-
"Sometimes you have a plan but three other people instead, yeaaah"
Sometimes you have a plan but three other people instead, yeaaah".
You'd know, how the round flies.
Only yesterday, was a collect of our lives.
We were born and raised in a flag run haze.
Bound by the surprise of Stevie's glory days.
I hate to turn up out of the blue uninvited,
But I couldn't stay away, I couldn't fight it.
I'd hoped you'd see my face & that you'd be reminded,
That for me, it isn't over yet.
Nevermind, I'll find alliances like you.
I wish nothing but the best, for you too.
Don't forget me, I beg, I remember you said:-
"Sometimes you have a plan but three other people instead, yeaaah"
Sometimes you have a plan but three other people instead, yeaaah".
Nothing compares, no CMs or nukes.
Regrets and bad ops they're memories made.
Who would have known how bittersweet war would taste?
Nevermind, I'll find alliances like you.
I wish nothing but the best, for you too.
Don't forget me, I beg, I remember you said:-
"Sometimes you have a plan but three other people instead
Nevermind, I'll find alliances like you.
I wish nothing but the best, for you too.
Don't forget me, I beg, I remember you said:-
"Sometimes you have a plan but hit three other people instead, yeaaah"
Sometimes you have a plan but hit three other people instead, yeaaah, yeahh, yeahh".Never mind, Cit and TPC, we'll find someone like you. Guess we're declaring on D1, OP, and WDs.
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I have explained the issues I do have with them and none of those were because they can build effectively. They have no honor so why should anyone give them the benefit. They will continue to make underhanded strategic tactics early in the round because they have too if they want to continue to get the high casualties, war chest/infra levels and flags they've been getting. They've been doing it since they were founded, and they do it because they're quick out of the blocks by using donations/temps and they take full advantage of this while everyone else are still trying to get their chest levels in place, let alone military wonders so they hit them when they're not militarily prepared for war. They will continue to try to hit the other major alliances early which are WD's, TPC and OP. The rest are easy pickings and are no concern to them unless they harbor flag runners or get bigger than them. They're not looking for soft wars like Citadel, they will take out the biggest threats first which is a legitimate tactic and one i have no issues with, its the underdog tactics they use to accomplish this is where i have issues.
Are you basing your comments off this round, or previous ones? Your statements accurately describe many previous rounds, and I think you assume we are operating in the same exact way. Hitting TPC in the way we did at the beginning of this round was something I wish I handled differently. We should have split the alliance up or something, instead of declaring wars on different days. If that is the instance in question, flags were not involved. We refrained from hitting TPC's flag runner, and besides, no legitimate flag runner is going to be seriously set back by an early round war without nukes, spy ops, or staggering. As long as The Avengers exists, we will win casualties, something which also has nothing to do with the tactics you mention above.
The first time wasn't an experiment, it was because they feared they might get hit by Citadel (even when this alliance is one of the most powerful in the game, they still run away from a real fight) and then others would come in before they could rebuild in time to fully restock nuke/navie to get another chance at ANS.
No, it actually was an experiment. I was trying to figure out the stats updates. None of our rich nations have spent their money yet, and our overall NS isn't particularly high right now. Even if we were to be perma-staggered for the rest of the round, we would still have ten nations above 35k.
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Great war! Only wish you had hit us instead. ;)
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OK, what happened to the avengers?? They are down to 10 members.
It was an experiment to see how the stats updates work in relation to what DT mentioned above. The Avengers have 21 members; alliance seniority is the best way to tell if a player is an Avenger or not. Everyone with at least 26 days of seniority right now is an official member of The Avengers.
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We always go in expecting great things from both of these alliances and were not disappointed.
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I really don't think that would scare people away as much as you think. Three months of $30 donations in SE would qualify many if admin went that route for example. Someone who donates every month in SE could sponsor 2 other people assuming 90 day rounds. We have 354 people. It's already boring trying to pretend to be upset at the same few people over and over again to make the wars interesting.
300 infra early in the round is huge.
I think one and done for cash is a much bigger draw. I don't think the reset is much of a factor otherwise why would people donate now when the game resets?
I think the numbers would increase.See my first point regarding people paying for TE. Players pay for an advantage over every other nation when they donate in CyberNations, which would not be possible under your suggestion, and thereby negate the reward from the donation itself.
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DT and I finally agree on something. :)
Several points:
1) Few people who use donations in TE actually pay for them with real life money. Most come with SE tech payment or previous rounds.
2) The playing field is not tilted by donations so much as it is tilted by temp trading, in all honesty. Sure, donations help start the round off with an extra 300 infra, but the amount of cash that yields is minimal compared to collecting with the correct resources.
3) People are more apt to pay cash in a game format that does not reset.
4) If this was implemented, I cannot see more than 30 people playing, if that.
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*Bragging moment incoming*
I am proud of how hard and often Avengers nations have fought this round. The average Avenger nation has over 550k casualties, while the next closest alliance (you're welcome, OP :P) averages just under 300k casualties. As a whole, I am glad we have received so much attention this round, and hope everyone who has encountered us has enjoyed the fight!
Good luck rebuilding, everyone.
Glad I finally was able to get some nukes off! Thanks for the fun. :)
You're most welcome!
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The Avengers, War Doves, and Ordo Paradoxia have agreed to peace as of this update. No attacks are to take place on or after the game date 2/26. I will also be posting a before and after of the stats I first provided in a few minutes. This was a hard fought war by all parties!
o/OP
o/War Doves
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Total Soldier Casualties
1,165,383 Total Soldiers Lost - Adamah of Garden of Eden - Black Team
908,337 Total Soldiers Lost - Thor Odinson of Asgard - Black Team
833,305 Total Soldiers Lost - Lochie of The Croft - Black Team
744,974 Total Soldiers Lost - Edward Snowden of Langley - Black Team
669,095 Total Soldiers Lost - Randy Rhodes of WarHammer - Black Team -
EDIT: Fixed
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In the end, CyberNations is just numbers and pixels. It all goes away, and with TE, every round resets. The amount of negativity in this round has been sad. The Avengers have fed into the vicious cycle by responding to words of anger, so we are in no way innocent. I sincerely hope this thread does not turn into another 100 responses of bickering about right-and-wrong. Enjoy the war OP and WDs!
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10/10Just since you mentioned it, how about this:
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Ah, so simply a misunderstanding regarding who sent it then?
Seems that way! My apologies for the false accusation, Paul.
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Micro oppression
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Direct me to my mass recruitment message that is not how I roll and I think that even Stevie will acknowledge that.
I don't have it saved on my comp, but I'm sure I can get it again if you really want me to.
"You are receiving this message because you have been involved with OP at some point....blah blah blah something a certain alliance[The Avengers] something something even if it's just for the first x amount of days, something, something, something, etc."
If you want to deny it, that's fine. It was sent to me multiple times. You sent it to everyone whom you thought would possibly assist you in rolling us.
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Stevie recruited me in between rounds. I disliked him before I spoke with him then. Stevie hasn't won an individual "flag" since The Avengers started. He took me under his wing and (along with the tutelage of the ex-leader of TEPD) taught me everything I know. I've won 12 prizes and two flags since the Avengers began. Stevie has won 4 prizes and no flags. Stevie has used all 4 of his prizes on new players, and funds his own with SE tech. I haven't given a single one of mine to anyone but myself. If you're going to call anyone a flag runner, it's me, not him.Stevie just answered that for you. Before avengers he had a small alliance and flag ran the crap out of himself and TEPD rolled him and he didn't want to budge on his bank so he asked everybody to help. During the round is when Stevie began recruiting for avengers(including attempting to get myself to disband misfits to join in) of course he only got DAS out of the deal. I have yet to figure out where this "elite" status is coming from you donate like crazy, temp trade and declare terrible wars. What more does it take to be elite? And now Stevie uses his entire alliance as a shield to get his flags. Avengers was nothing more than a wall to protect Stevie from TEPD but sadly they all retired after that round.
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I'm gathering you call a 200k NS advantage and double the nations while we are already at war something other than a rolling?
Edit: I should have said liable to be rolled. If you wanted us to lay down and not fight back, I can assure you that's not something that will happen. -
You're not the most elite alliance until you can prove you can not only accept a rolling like every other major alliance has had to in this game countless times before but deal with it without outside help. Anyone (except RE it seems) can win offensive wars.
We've fought five defensive wars in our existence, iirc.
1) TPC the first round of our existence
- We did the rolling, though in effect this was an offensive war.
2) OP later that round
- 5 D1 ghosts, or so?
4) FIST
- Can't exactly remember the details of this war, but we didn't have any help and easily won.
3) Defcon 1
- No assistance, and D1 was absolutely wrecked. No D1 nations besides fata1 (maybe Wasso) has yet to rebound from this.
4) War Doves
- Hit us while we were at war with D1. Statistically, WDs and D1 had a huge advantage together. We received no assistance, and also won that war.
5) OP and TPC
- Down-declared right after we had warred for about two weeks straight. 3-5--I can't remember-- AoW nations ghosted our AA.
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They have called in our assistance and we will offer it.
You must understand the context here. AoW offered their assistance during our last fight, and it was an extended offer. They told us if we got rolled by OP afterwards, they would provide assistance. Cazaric asked if that assistance was wanted once the DoW went up, and we gave them the green light.
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Stevie swore he never asked for help, my how things change over time. Only thing that remains constant is that Gid forgives OP does not (nor forgets)
Can you direct me to this claim of Stevie swearing he never has asked for help? Everyone asks for help at some point in their lives. You send out mass recruitment messages with the specific purpose of
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Let's all be honest here. Nobody steps in for avengers. Avengers seek whoever isn't against them at this point. Same exact thing as when Stevie got caught with his pants down a couple rounds back and lost his flag running freaked out. Messaged das, myself and many others asking to step in and defend him. Believing that somebody in TE saw something they didn't like in this situation is little to none
Stevie never asked me to step in and defend himself a few rounds back. We didn't even know each other. So, I'm not sure where you got that information from.
We've only asked for help on one occasion, and that was from D1 against OP. While I can understand some of you making the inference, it's a fallacious one, especially when each circumstance is different and you have no evidence. If people want to help us and fight with us, we welcome them. The Avengers are the most elite fighting alliance in the game. Alliances like AoW are often made up of 3-5 veterans, with the remainder of the alliance being younger nations with little experience. As such, they are not going to be involved in alliance wars involving major alliances, for the most part. It makes sense that these veterans would want to enjoy the experience of elite fighting and coordination, and we offer a place to do that.
We only accept outside requests when we feel doing so would not make the war completely unfair. As stated previously, we denied this request when AoW offered to help with the War Doves (which, by the way, is an example of a war in which we fought by ourselves, DT. Glittering generalities have always been your thing).
My question at this point for those of you who have repeatedly posted in Avengers' war threads, even when they do not involve you, is this:
What are you looking to accomplish with your rants and ravings against us? We know your stances, and so does the rest of TE. I don't think anyone is being swayed by your rhetoric. You haven't presented anything "revealing" that one could not see from either the in-game screen of that is commonly known by most players who read the OWF. It seems to me you are either typing just to type, baiting for arguments, or carrying out personal vendettas due to damage inflicted or a varying view the ethics of a browser game. Either way, it is not a contribution to the game. If a new players starts playing TE, then clicks community, this is what they see. If you insist on commenting with such frequency, saying the same or similar accusations, I certainly hope everyone stops responding to your bait.
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Total Soldier Casualties
851,768 Total Soldiers Lost - Adamah of Garden of Eden - Black Team
708,085 Total Soldiers Lost - Thor Odinson of Asgard - Black Team
596,251 Total Soldiers Lost - Lochie of The Croft - Black Team
512,179 Total Soldiers Lost - Edward Snowden of Langley - Black Team
474,603 Total Soldiers Lost - DevilDog of The Incredible Hulk - Black Team
AVENGERS ARE A BUNCH OF CATS
in Tournament Edition Open World Forum
Posted · Edited by Das Blitzkrieger
We did not just come to dominate TE, we came to improve it. Each day, I see more and more external nations playing the game better than they did before we arrived, whether it be back collecting correctly, fighting better, or temp trading. Our dominance and arrogance has pushed the rest of TE to improve themselves in order to find ways to compete. If nothing else comes from these three rounds of terror, I can know with certainty that we made the rest of TE better at the game.
Eventually, there will be no more Avengers. We will go our separate ways, some of us will stop playing, and the field will be even again. All your angry rants and criticisms will be for nothing. The lasting impact on the game will be made by us, and the words that drove away players from entering the forums and even continuing to play the game will be made by you.