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Helios

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    I don't understand why you're having trouble understanding why in a game of ~10k having 20 people control everything in a range greater than 170k NS might be an issue.

     

    Oh I understand what your problem is. I just disagree with the very clear method you're trying to go about changing it. I mean whining for the god to come save you all? Yeah, keep it up, maybe he'll listen one day.

     

    Or, alternatively, he'll realise the only motivations behind any suggestions you make are political, can be solved via other means and won't actually improve the world as we know it in any meaningful way.

  2. Except they would get rolled for trying, assuming it got to that point.

     

    Except you can only roll so much, especially when it comes to shit-tier farm nations, because there is only so much to roll. You raze the 10k guy to the ground, what then? He can still send aid. He doesn't have to buy the tech until it's time to send it out and at his level the tech is dirt cheap so he's still going to have enough money after being rolled to buy it up.

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    It was possible vs Umbrella, it would be the same thing, and at this point I think you could find alliances from both sides of the upcoming global conflict willing to shoulder the burden.

     

    With great respect to them, Umbrella isn't DBDC so it wouldn't go exactly the same way. And I'm not convinced on that last point. Arguably, there are a great many more alliances with agendas that don't propose a narrative of DBDC getting rolled, than alliances with agendas that do.

     

     

    Except I don't think sellers will send tech for free--the only people willing to send tech in those circumstances would be those actually willing to work on charity, and those would be targeted by the people boycotting DBDC.

     

    True but I doubt it'd be hard to find anti-Polar farms who would send it for free. A 5-10k NS nation could get a 30m package, sit on it for ten days in PM, then lob out 500 tech to DBDC nations. Rinse and repeat.

  4. Well, there is the point that in PM, as I recall, one cannot send foreign aid, as well. So if they got low enough to feel the need to do that, they would cut themselves off from their sources of tech.

     

    No. It's possible to continue receiving aid in PM, so DBDC could still soak up tech regardless of their situation. Sure they might not be able to pay for it right away but that's largely irrelevant if they're farming it.

     

     

    brb Signing treaty with Sard...

     

    Unholy Alliance 2.0, folks.

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    it severely restricts the flow, however.

     

    We're talking about 126 slots max here (give or take some, depending on freedom of movement), which means they technically only need approximately 21 exclusive suppliers at any given time. I have zero doubt they could find this amount at the very least.

     

     

    Except for the fact that by dropping in ranks it means they're thrown into the shark tank, and we saw how effective that strategy is, and that should a group of alliances have enough conviction can effectively topple an alliance.

     

    And if we were talking about anyone else other than the Doombird collective, we would indeed observe the cumulative effect of being dropped in the shark tank. As it is, it would take quite a while and a certain, possibly unsustainable, amount of sacrificial nations to do the necessary damage to DBDC to ensure that they could not rise to previous heights. We've seen what happens to 150k+ NS nations, so it's not difficult to draw similar conclusions as to what would happen to the sub-100k nations.

     

    Would such a strategy succeed? Yes, of course; you throw enough numbers at it and you can change the outcome. But at what cost? Who shoulders the burden? Would we simply observe more mass PM usage in the sub-100k tiers, thereby dooming the strategy to fail? Would it, in the end, be anything more than a pyrrhic victory?

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    It's actually pretty easy to enforce this policy. It is a matter of looking for nations who send tech to DBDC and then attacking them. Polar doesn't need to hit every single nation sending tech to DBDC for it to be effective because smaller nations who can't afford to be attacked on a regular basis will naturally start selling their tech elsewhere. Overtime the pool of nations willing to sell tech to DBDC will naturally shrink until a time when the only nations willing to sell to DBDC will be these pesky Android clone tech farms.

     

    Well your final point is what kind of defeats your argument.

     

    Yeah, they can probably get rid of most legitimate sellers in other alliances. First to go would be non-allied entities, then secondary allies and possibly, eventually, if they could gather the appropriate force, primary allies. But then they'd have to deal with the ones who sell just to spite them, they'd have to deal with DBDC divisions, newbies and so on and so forth.

     

    It's very difficult to completely stop a couple of small groups of 1-5k NS nations from spamming tech. One way or another, DBDC will get their tech.

  7. A policy such as this is realistically impossible to enforce and now you're just giving people reasons to spite you, by issuing a blanket declaration of war against anybody sending tech to DBDC. And even if you somehow managed to pin down all of the individuals who send tech to DBDC and attacked them, you still can't physically prevent them from sending tech and you'd also have to deal with matters on an alliance level since, you know, alliances protect their members.

     

    This was also the worst possible time you could've announced this.

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