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[quote name='Norwood' timestamp='1337840384' post='2971561'] Fok and Int use to have a treaty. I don't know what that has to do with us though? [/quote] I read the wiki. Didn't know FOK was involved either. In need of an edit?

[quote name='Judge X' timestamp='1337835788' post='2971542'] Yes. Since when does war have to be fair? Remember when the Red Heathens and the Red, White, & Blue Heathens rolled out together? [/quote] What alliance in this game came to the Red's side, and flew a red, white and blue flag?

Alright, at first this was amusing, now it's annoying. Game Developers is just a title.

[quote name='thisissparta997' timestamp='1337832552' post='2971513'] I would, but we and 5 others cannot log back in... We were all mysteriously banned within an hour of eachother... [/quote] Welp, I guess that's really too bad. I wanted a war too...:/

[quote name='thisissparta997' timestamp='1337832052' post='2971507'] We need to get them banned. Please, if you are reading this, declare war on Tetris. Lets make them feel like the 'tiny' and 'worthless' alliance [/quote] [quote name='thisissparta997' timestamp='1337832141' post='2971508'] Our Leadership did not dissapear! Tetris banned me! I was "thisissparta998" This is stupid and unfair! [/quote] If you send me all the remaining money you guys have left, I will declare war right away! This is unfair for you! The horror!

[quote name='thisissparta997' timestamp='1337831826' post='2971500'] Thanks for the support. We were just trying to get strong, we had no intentions for war either. Payback is a #@$%#. Please, PROIS, do not give up in OUR alliance.. I officially decalre AKHAN as leader.. If you support him, please send aid... they need it... I BLAME TETRIS FOR BANNING ME! They are CHEATERS! Please, end this. My cybernations career is over because of them. banned. forever. This is nonsense. I beg all major alliances to declare war on tetris. [/quote] I blame Tetris too. How dare they ban you! Outrage! The [i]outrage![/i] [b]Justice For thisissparta997![/b]

[quote name='thisissparta997' timestamp='1337831595' post='2971496'] hey guys, this is ThisIsSparta998. Our leadership didn't "dissapear". For some 'mysterious' reason I got banned, along with 5 other members of this alliance. I am not allowed to play Cybernations ever again because of this.. I had to make a new account on the forums. Me and my friends for school cannot play... I think Tetris has something to do with this. No offense, but Tetris is a mean alliance. You guys are not powerful, and I hope that other alliances (such as IRON and Hooligans) declare war on you. Our alliance didn't have the money to afford 50 tech, we were running out of money. Unfortunatley, I believe that he took this way to far. Good luck to PROIS! Nuke em'! Give them hell! PROIS UNITE! -ThisIsSparta998 (The banned leader) [/quote] Tetris, you guys really are just [i]mean[/i]. You...you [i]meanies[/i].

[quote name='Daisy Mae Mac' timestamp='1337720583' post='2970727'] Come visit us, we're great [/quote] No, really. We are.

[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1337831281' post='2971491'] The same NoR/V military who only fought one war that wasn't a beatdown in their favor, causing them to disband? Times change, political landscapes change. But if you think it would still be so easy as it once was, we'll be waiting. [/quote] Wait, since does war have to be fair? You red heathens need to be better prepared this time! I hope that when the time comes, your military will at least put up a meager resistance before your faces are ground into the dirt by our tank treads.

[quote name='trimm' timestamp='1337831040' post='2971488'] Hooray, we have a winner! Someone tell him what he's won! [/quote] First prize? A Cadillac El-dorado. Anyone want to see second prize? Set of Steak Knives. Third prize is he's fired.

[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1337830416' post='2971479'] Protip: INT and LSF still occasionally do this. You're welcome to try and reenact the glory days and stop us again though, although I'm sure you'll find the outcome drastically different this time [/quote] Really? I must have misplaced the dossier listing the many glorious Red Army victories against the Nordreich military... Oh wait...

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1337826803' post='2971459'] Do something or shut up. I dont like what Tetris did here but you are so $%&@inh annouong with the white knigjt !@#$%^&*. Also just because of who you are tied to tjese days you might find that Tetris has more "support" than you think. Im sure VE has told you not to do anything stupid and get a lot of people rolled oved pretty mich nothing. Sit down and keep uour mouth shut and nose out of other peoples business. [/quote] Yes, let the hate flow through you!

[quote name='Comrade Mao' timestamp='1337825541' post='2971445'] Congrats on making it this far, guys. I figured one of our camps would have bitten the dust by now, yet here we are. Also, Nordreich must be destroyed. [/quote] One could not survive without the other, of course. Unless it's the Reds, which we could all live without. <3

This thread makes me a smile...

[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1337811572' post='2971324'] Hey, tell me, does your mother sew? BOOM! Get her to sew that! [/quote] Name's Decker. I'm a friend of your wife. Smart woman, lotta woman. We just...renewed our friendship while you were at work.

[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1337753374' post='2970932'] I support Tetris and their war on micros. [/quote] Wait! I missed this! How can it be that the Red Menace does not support the small, puny workers of the attacked alliance?! Perhaps there is a place for you in Nordreich after all, you budding Imperialist

[quote name='USMC123' timestamp='1337748020' post='2970845'] Last time people didn't post, people cried about it. Get over it. e: It's a 14 man AA whose leadership disappeared overnight. Rather than have the nations all disappear from the game, we are attempting to help them have a real go at CN. [/quote] By attacking them, and making their community implode? Nice one... You're giving them the impression that CN is hostile to...well, anything.

[quote name='USMC123' timestamp='1337505416' post='2969780'] Dude, as a third party, I am going to give you piece of advice: stop trying to argue. You are using a series of logical fallacies to try to counter Hereno's points. That rune, no matter its origin, was used by the Nazis. This is not debatable. This also does not mean you are necessarily Nazis, but come on, stop trying to pretend you don't use the imagery. For the record, I agree with a lot of what you have said, but most of it is not really relevant to Hereno's point. It's also worth noting that Hereno and I do not see eye-to-eye on just about everything, but you are not winning the argument here. e: I would feel like I got a free dinner. If you answered the question, you would see that it actually does. [/quote] Ok? What's your point? I'm not arguing at all that we don't use imagery that is of a norse pagan origin. That's not a problem in my eyes. The issue is that some people apparently take offense because a group of people took it, and abused it for foul purposes. Now, it is forever inappropriate (again according to these people making the complaint) to use the Odal rune in any way. I point out that it was long used not as a symbol of hate, but one of respect, power, and knowledge. I also go further to point out there aren't any outcries for using communist images, especially since the images I raised were designed [i]specifically[/i] for Communism. They don't possess any cultural significance at all, and those using them should be viewed with skepticism. These aren't logical fallacies at all. They're fact.

[quote name='USMC123' timestamp='1337503670' post='2969772'] How would you respond if you saw a group of people around a burning cross? [/quote] How would you respond if you saw a deer run out in front of a car, and get plastered? Because that's about how much your comment has to do with this conversation right now.

[quote]I really meant it when I said I was done here, but after a few shots and seeing your beautiful sig combining the Grateful Dead with victims of Stalin (seriously, I laughed so hard)[/quote] I'm glad it meets to your approval. After all, you set the standard for hilarity in this thread. [quote]No !@#$ I have something against Nordreich because they use Nazi symbols. That said, that's really my only problem with NoR. Other than that I think you guys are a pretty good alliance. You keep saying I'm making you out to be national socialists, but you're the ones who use the Othala rune. Not me. Pointing out that it was used by Nazis is what is making you mad. Boo hoo. I've continually said that I don't think you're Nazis, and will take you at your word on that. So tell me: why are you wearing Nazi uniforms?[/quote] Have you noticed that every time you say you're not calling us national socialist or "nazi", you mention our "nazi" symbolism, or ask why we use "nazi" uniforms? It's quite funny really, to see you contradict yourself at least half a dozen times in your own thread. Then, to see you turn around and deny any accusations made towards us, by you, about the same subject matter. You're like a rabid dog, foaming at the mouth and barking at the mailman because he wears a silly uniform. So tell me: why can't you have the courage to admit you think we're a national socialist alliance (as you are so fond of insinuating by your question)? I am sure we'd all enjoy the pleasure of laughing you out of this thread together, for the ignorance you've displayed here. [quote]You moron, this thread is not about communism. Can you or can you not defend your alliance's use of 3rd Reich imagery without saying "look! the commies are even worse!" or not? I don't care if INT and LSF team up to resurrect Stalin, give him implants that give him the powers of a demigod, and then literally enslave all of Bob, it would not make it okay for your alliance to use 3rd Reich imagery. Step up or step off. Do you have a defense or are you going to keep beating around the bush and refusing to address the central point of my arguments?[/quote] I don't need to defend anything. We don't use "3rd Reich" imagery. We use germanic imagery (Othala rune, eagle of germania, etc;) that has been around far longer than any reich. Now, I will admit some people use german soldiers as avatars, or banners, but I see no swastikas or SS runes anywhere. I haven't seen anything overtly racist, or national socialist related material since joining Nordreich. Granted, I haven't been in this community long (got a rude awakening it seems), but so far I just haven't seen it! This thread isn't about what we're discussing either, but since you brought it up, I thought it would only be fair to point out the same imagery used by communist alliances is just as offensive. That's not moronic, that's [i]objective[/i], and it's fair play. Nowhere have I claimed that "OMG! SOVIET UNION WAS WORSE!". Throughout this thread you have misrepresented my argument, slandered myself, and my alliance with baseless claims borne from a hatred and ignorance of the people I have come to know in my albeit brief time in this "world". Until you actually "come at me bro", and provide some real evidence other than your irrational fear and hatred of something you haven't the slightest clue about, then I'll consider you a mere annoyance at best. To coin a phrase from Nick Fury: "Ant, meet Boot." [img]http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/144/037/haters_gonna_hate_by_genshihebi-d36bgfk.gif[/img]

[quote=Hereno]I dismiss your claim that I have anything against German people or them celebrating their heritage because the claim itself is garbage. That you'd honestly try to misdirect the discussion like that is quite pathetic. I certainly hope you haven't started believing your own propaganda.[/quote] I likewise dismiss your attempt to misrepresent my reply as an erroneous assumption that you have something against Germans. I never said that at all. I did however point out, using your own words, that you seem to have something against nordreich as an alliance. I also made a case that you seem to think we're a bunch of national socialist enthusiasts, a notion that is [i]real[/i] garbage. I for one certainly hope that you will put more effort into actually reading and retaining my posts, before you launch into a tirade about waste. [quote]You've got an Othala rune on your avatar and on your signature. It is a symbol of Nazi Germany, whether you recognize that or not, and it is a symbol Nordreich uses like I drink water. If you walked through a Jewish neighborhood wearing that symbol, you would be walking through a Jewish neighborhood wearing a symbol of the Nazis. That cannot be disputed, and as I said, I doubt they want to hear your garbage about being non-Nazi nationalist Germans who use Nazi symbols. I would feel shameful even wearing the symbols of the Schutzstaffel on my avatar/signature, much less going out in public like that, and you should as well. You're absolutely right I believe that. I have no reason to hide my hate of the Nazis, and the fact that you're seriously suggesting that to me is hilarious.[/quote] Just as the Red Star and Yellow Star have been the symbols of communist oppression worldwide. I don't understand why you're not even acknowledging this fact. You're trying to make the case that a thousands of years old rune is somehow inherently evil, yet it's perfectly fine (given your complete lack of address regarding this point) for alliances to use the hammer and sickle, gears or the red/yellow star. Those images are comparatively new and have existed solely for the purposes of espousing communism and marxism abroad. Not religious or cultural heritage. We don't use the swastika, and we don't abide racists, bigots, and hate-mongers in my alliance. Although I am new to NoR, I can obviously see by the fact that one of our former leaders is [i]jewish[/i] means he would feel right at home in this neighborhood. Would some of the Stalinist filth in INT or LSF feel likewise? Have we forgotten the pogroms responsible for millions of jewish persecution and death? Or the mass exodus of jews from the USSR during the cold war? Look, it's this simple: you're trying to label Nordreich as a national socialist alliance because of our germanic imagery (and make no mistake, it was a Norse pagan symbol long before Hitler befouled it), yet you give a wink and a nod to the imagery that communist alliances fly. It's childish, hypocritical and it's so much more laughable that you have the testicular fortitude to tell me I should be ashamed. Ha! I say that you should be ashamed for not having the courage to do something about your conspiracy theories. My nation is there, come at me bro. [quote]All of that said, I'm done with this thread.[/quote] I accept your surrender, Hereno.

[quote name='Judge X' timestamp='1337492717' post='2969733'] Hmmm. So [b]Thorwhatshisname[/b] really wasn't a Nazi-wannabe skinhead bullet sponge? It is one thing to be proud of your Germanic heritage and another to choose the worst time period in German history to be proud of. I mean, Germany has a few hundred years of being the Holy Roman Empire in which Germany pretty much ruled most of Eastern Europe. You just want to ignore and go back to your parade? [img]http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Goose-Parade.jpg[/img] [/quote] Who is Thorwhatshisname? If you mean a former member or something, I think it's safe to say that when Nordreich finds them, they root them out. just like I would expect LSF or INT to root out AntiFA criminals in their ranks. You know, the sorts that attack and kill people they think are racist? Violence and intolerance on [i]either[/i] side is unacceptable.

[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1337492188' post='2969728'] This thread is not about communism, I am not in a communist alliance, and not once have I accused you of being national socialists. I'm just asking why people who aren't Nazis are running around in Nazi uniforms because they're "proud of their German heritage". Don't even come at me with that ridiculous straw man. Germanic peoples have many great accomplishments on a global scale throughout the ages of Bob, so if you're truly proud of that heritage, you ought to pick a symbol that doesn't represent to the rest of Bob the absolute worst of German history. Please tell me you don't actually believe this nonsense you're shooting at me. [/quote] This thread isn't about National Socialism, either. More to the point, I never stated you were a part of a communist or socialist alliance as well. In fact, I think I went out of my way to word my reply to you, in terms of a general imagery sense considering that is the overall topic of your argument. Given that, I think my remarks were absolutely correct and your attempt to label my response to you as a "straw man" merely goes to show your dismissive attitude toward my argument, as opposed to an objective view on it. Also, you didn't outright accuse Nordreich of being a national socialist alliance, you're correct. But it doesn't take a moron to see that: [quote=Hereno]Try walking through a Jewish neighborhood in my nation of Lancashire in some of that Nordreich "nationalist German but totally not Nazi at all even though we use Nazi/SS symbols" getup and see how far it gets you.[/quote] means that not only should we feel ashamed of walking through a Jewish neighborhood, but that we're doing so in Nazi paraphernalia which is not the case. My forum avatar and signature is from a popular movie based on a Comic book, which so happens to be about a Norse god. Not the slightest bit of Nazi undertone. If your really going to hide your hate, you should do it better. Perhaps by simply not even posting?

[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1337489899' post='2969717'] That's the thing, though. You don't get to just change the meaning of widely-accepted symbols because you feel like it. It doesn't matter what you think the rune symbolizes; to everybody else, it still symbolizes racism, oppression, and murder. Try walking through a Jewish neighborhood in my nation of Lancashire in some of that Nordreich "nationalist German but totally not Nazi at all even though we use Nazi/SS symbols" getup and see how far it gets you. If none of NoR cares about this, then why are you all here complaining about having to explain yourselves all the time? If you truly don't care, stop responding from now on and let everybody think what they want. Get out of here with that garbage. [/quote] Do I need to yet again point out that your own argument applies to those socialist and communist alliances in this game? That the wheat wreath, gear and red/yellow star symbolizes just as much hate, oppression, death and intolerance? Quite frankly we don't care, but we do care enough to point out the childish double standard you're displaying by not bothering to bring up the flip side to your own argument, and look at the matter objectively. Instead, you've chosen to make a thinly veiled reference to Nordreich being a national socialist alliance, or that we should somehow be ashamed of our pride in germanic lineage. Sorry, not going to happen. [i]Nordeich Über Alles![/i]

[quote name='VladimirLenin' timestamp='1337486762' post='2969696'] I just had to quote this post because I found it, and the person who wrote it, hilarious. It's probably unintentional, but well played anyway. [/quote] We at Nordreich don't play games, Mister...