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[quote name='Tautology' timestamp='1282937525' post='2433015']
Did you forget that you have a treaty with our friends (and MDoAP partners) in Amazon Nation?
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Aye, and there are a few other connections that we have to RoK as well. Those were made prior to RoK's assault on NSO though. So instead of allowing RoK to influence which allies BCOM already has, instead it's going to influence which ones it gains in the future. Sorry I wasn't a bit clearer about that. As far as our current treaties, well, our allies feel pretty much the same way we do about that war - so no tensions were born out of that. No need to change our current arrangements, in other words.
Oh, and thank you for doing your homework. It's refreshing. -
Good idea Alfred. I'll be sure to make that happen.
Also, since you guys are allies and such, it might not be such a bad idea to let them know that it's looked down upon to offer a merge on first contact. We never heard of them - never even knew they existed until they showed up, offering a merge. That should be, to anyone with a brain cell, a strong indicator that they may need some help over there as far as the FA goes. I mean, when it comes to FA, RoK isn't exactly on the top of everyone's list to be considered "experts" or anything in that field, but as far as SUN goes, at this point anything would be an improvement. You know, maybe some documentation or perhaps some one-on-one mentorship should get them squared away to some measurable extent. -
[quote name='Alfred von Tirpitz' timestamp='1282884263' post='2432477']
Well... you managed to confuse me.
I think an offer of merger is sort of a complement. They obviously thought you were good and active enough to be a good addition to their own ranks.
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ROFL !!! Thanks Alfred. That made my day. Can't begin to tell you how many times I've seen this mentioned verbatim. Anyhow, for the record (just so you guys know for later and there isn't any confusion about it anymore), BCOM isn't going to have anything to do with RoK, or anything that touches RoK. BCOM would rather burn in Hell.
Please send out a memo or something, and save others some disappointment in the future. -
Well, that offer from State of Unified Nations for BCOM to merge into them is starting to make a little more sense now.... I thought that was odd.
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I've never participated in this before, but if it's okay, I'd like to submit my sig for the next round.....
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[quote name='Andre27' timestamp='1282515420' post='2426936']
Nice work avoiding the last point of the post you quoted.
Allow me to bring this question forward again:
When is it enough. Even if this war was started to defend an ally, would you not say this response is completely out of proportions?
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Well, I sure as hell would. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, a DoW was completely out of proportions to begin with, but I guess we're all past that now. So it appears that the fact that this war is [u]still[/u] raging on only goes to support everything the nay-sayers have been saying. And each day this war rages on, more weight is being added to their claims.
So if you're wearing a tinfoil hat, you might want to consider switching to an iron helmet soon. -
[quote name='Geoffron X' timestamp='1282512232' post='2426883']
The reason the New Gramlins one turned the way it did was because Gram refused to abandon their ridiculous position. The reason this is turning into that is very, very similar.
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There's another reason:
[quote]11[22:59] <VanHooIII[RoK]> It isn't political, or even personal
11[22:59] <VanHooIII[RoK]> It is what it is, just like I told you[/quote]
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[quote name='Skap Q' timestamp='1282445508' post='2426234']
Who is your writer? I want him.
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Well, usually the articles are a composition of works from different writers, but this month I did the Chronicle solo. No, you can't have me, lol. -
[quote name='Caleb279' timestamp='1282444718' post='2426221']
Holy crap those are some nice ones guys...love that Umbrella twist
Thanks everyone, these are awesome. I'll pay 3mil to keenu, and 3mil to Potface for his first one as a war banner.
Thanks guys.
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Nein danke - instead send to this guy:
http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=420696
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[quote name='Stetson' timestamp='1282434936' post='2426093']
Okay, so you are doing what I thought you were. It's an interesting plan, and should serve you well, especially on the small nation growth side of things.
I do disagree that multiple deals are more work as it's the same number of aid exchanges to follow, but that's just a preference thing.
Good luck, and keep up the good work on the newsletter.
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Thank you sir. I guess it's just one of those things you have to go and try. For me, arranging and monitoring two 5x5's would be much easier than arranging and monitoring a 2x2, a 3x3, another 2x2, and another 3x3. Especially when you're working with new nations. The more room for error you give, the more likely it is you'll find it. -
[quote name='Stetson' timestamp='1282432341' post='2426061']
Very nice paper.
I do have a question on the 5x5 deal however...if you're doing deals at a rate of $3mil for 50 tech, why not do a 2x2, or a nontraditional 3x3, or hell, a 17x17. That rate of pay can be used in any combination of nations as long as there are equal sellers to buyers. That is of course unless I've got the format wrong in which case, I'd be very interested in seeing what you're doing.
/me reminds myself to not assume I know what other people are talking about...
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Well, you're certainly right there, but remember, the objective is to move as much tech as physically possible, while providing as much command and control as possible. For example, you could do a 3x3 and a 2x2 at the same time, but now, you have two separate deals to have to coordinate and monitor. When you start divvying it up like that, you're making more work for yourself.
Now, you take a 5x5 - if everyone was interested in purchasing 100 tech, you could stagger the buyers and sellers a couple of spaces over, and voila, you can complete two 5x5 deals with a 5th slot left for your personal use. -
Volume 4 of the Blackstone Chronicle is located here: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=91012
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[quote name='Antonio Salovega VI' timestamp='1282410316' post='2425770']
Interesting (but giggle-able) argument.
Which alliance's contract law would you have us read? NPO's? NSO's? or shall we go farther afield? GATO's? VE's? Ragnarok's? Perhap's you could quote the applicable passage from said law to really drive your point home? And of course in order to exit your "single-circle fight", said passage should be authored and dated pre-war, should it not? Or perhaps not. Based on the side of the argument which you are taking, you are obviously of the [i]ex post facto[/i] crowd who prefers to apply their "I know what the treaty says but ..." arguments retroactively.
Thank you for your belly-laugh argument. As I said, I found it interesting.
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You know what else you may find interesting? The fact that an alliance isn't required to have a treaty at all in order to get involved in a war. -
Thanks everyone !!
And remember, anyone can submit an ad to our classifieds section. It can be anything you want. The Chronicle is released on the 20th of each month. So there's plenty of time to think it over before the next edition is released. -
Hope you enjoy this month's edition everyone !!
o/ BCOM and pals. -
Be sure to check out the Blackstone Chronicle, due to be released today.
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If you think that pro-hegemony and anti-hegemony mentalities died after the Karma War, then you're going to be disappointed with Bob's future.
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[quote name='Tautology' timestamp='1282055889' post='2419595']
That's better. You're getting into character now. I knew that's what it was going to be.
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Well, Tautology, if I was a part of RoK's senior leadership, I'd be worrying about more important things right now. As this war drags on, there's going to be an increasing disgust in the community for what you guys have done. If I were you, I'd be figuring out a way to deal with that instead of commenting on my character. But you know, that's just me. -
[quote name='Tautology' timestamp='1282054780' post='2419577']
Does that mean you're not going to do good cop-bad cop?
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That's exactly what that means. You see, in other alliances, members are actually entitled to have their own opinions. And the fact that you would have assumed otherwise in the first place definitely goes to show the thought-process involved when someone said "hey, let's declare on NSO". -
[quote name='Tautology' timestamp='1282053716' post='2419563']
I expect the confusion arose because PotFace (your boss in BCom?) used it ad nauseam. He used "war-monger" or "war-mongering" 6 times in [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=90345&view=findpost&p=2418264]this single post[/url].
Are you and PotFace trying a good cop-bad cop routine? If so, I like it.
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Tautology.... aren't you RoK guys allowed to have your own opinions over there? Do you normally associate opinions with alliances like that? How pathetic. -
[quote name='Thunder Strike' timestamp='1282012919' post='2418564']
And that is why NSO is no longer what it used to be. Creating drama and putting on a show used to be your defining qualities. Now your alliance is just a timid shadow of what it strives to be.
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Pardon my lack of knowledge on this, hence this question, but what exactly would you say are RIA's defining qualities? -
[quote name='Thunder Strike' timestamp='1282010662' post='2418539']
NSO not looking for a war with an SF alliance?
That's rather out of character. What happened to you guys?
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You're right. If they had wanted war, they should have been the ones to declare. Shame on them !! -
[quote name='TypoNinja' timestamp='1282010007' post='2418528']
When someone says "X would be an act of war" I believe that a conscious choice to preform action X is in effect going and picking a fight.
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Hey TypoNinja - if you use the letter "x" again, from here on out, I'll consider that an act of war.
See what I just did there? See my point? Meh, probably not.
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[quote name='Thorgrum' timestamp='1282942359' post='2433083']
To bad you dont apply the same prinicipal to yourself, had you, you likely wouldnt have made a comment like this:
However watching you continue to be fail is refreshing. As a Rok gov member I know I am absolutely heartbroken you wont have anything to do with us, every court needs a jester.
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That's okay - you seem like you're unable to read or spell. I suppose you'll just have to do...