Buds The Man
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Can i bring my rebel flag and milk crates and join?
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Best of luck to my old friends in NOR.
O/ Thor
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But for TOP's treaties with DoomHouse, the still-active portions of PF would still be allied to TOP. You, Argent, cut ties with Paradoxia and joined a bloc whose overwhelming FA objective at the time was the destruction of TOP's DH allies and, indeed, TOP itself.
TOP wasnt on the menu anymore than Umbrella was IMO. Ella just happened to be the powder keg that went BOOM. There was no love lost between TOP and many on the other side but to my limeted knowledge TOP really wasnt all that important to the end goal.(If they remained out it would be a bonus if they came in top tiers would be wrecked) Reality is DH needed to be punched in the mouth and to that end it was a succesfull war. It was costly to do so and how it plays out from here will tell if it was worth it or not. I see treaties being dropped and people that usually would scoff at things hailing them. I see a shifting in sides comming in multiple places which for better or worse is needed. MK had become what it championed against in Karma. While im sure you are all ready to point out MK didnt start certain things im pretty sure their hands are far from clean.
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UH OH im seeing some writing on the wall and im not extreamly happy with it. I wish all the great people in both Torn and DT the best.
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THis is sad to see. I wish NoR and DT all the best.
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I was very fortunate to have great opponents. Cant remember them all LJ Yavin Sgt York Lum SRD and all of you. My nation was wrecked but i did collect almost 4 mill cas in this war. Shout out to DT as probably the best AA I had the oppurtunity to coordinate with. Love you guys.
Bud
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While those are all good reasons to not impose reps, they are not the actual reason. When it boils down to it, Umbrella would not have agreed to reps. Any claim otherwise is bull. No outside aid? Maybe, though very unlikely. The only sure available "term" EQ could've imposed on Umbrella would be more war, and that comes at a big cost.
If you say so Im sure your more in touch with how my leaders are opperating than I am. Point is instead of negotiation it seems as if it was a roll over. The cost to keep just Umbrella at war wouldnt have been sever there were more than enough nations to rotate in and out on just DH. Instead of thumping your chest be thankfull to your allies as they could have walked anytime via white peace afaik. Some of them took quite a beating as well. CnG and VE both took signicant damage to save DH pixels. (I wouldnt have expected any less from most of those and was pleasantly surprised by ODN and VE. A tip of my cap to all especially the last two.) My assesment of why it happened I would bet is much closer to the truth than yours is. Do not be so delusional that at least AI had the resolve to continue this on for a much longer period and it would have cost you more than us. The price on both sides would be high but never the less it was a bill many of us were willing to pay.
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bhane you want to know why it wasnt done. Great Propoganda from CO. OH MY it will be the return of Q era reps and terms. Leadership apparently hopes this will be remembered in future wars whether they are right or wrong only time will tell. Me personally I didnt want reps they are too much of a hassle how ever i did want some basic terms to restrict the rebuilding time for MK Umbrella TOP. It would have allowed for EQ AAs to at least get a jump over the mid and lower tiers. Nothing to harsh as a matter of fact it was called lenient when it was laid upon Valhalla. No outside aid for 30 or 60 days. Easy to maintain easy to watch and truly only stunts growth long enough for us to rebuild enough to equal things out.
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I think it was clear that EQ was winning this war, even if it was only through attrition. However for them to achieve total victory would have required them to sacrifice so much that many of them found this arrangement more palpatable. The amount of resources, nations and everything else they would have had to give up to destroy competence would have broken many of their own alliances, and left many others extremely depleted.
Competence clearly knew this, and it appears the higher ups used it on the negotiation table.
I'd like to make clear I'm not implying that EQ didn't have "the stomach" to finish this war, only that it was not in many of their own interests to go for a total victory especially as some of the agreements between the EQ side appear slightly shakey (atleast as an outside observer)
On the otherside, this rhetoric about Competence getting it's asskicked is just in poor taste. Competence didn't get it's ass kicked any more than EQ "Chickened out of achieving total victory." What happened was that both sides saw the writing on the wall, the high costs of a continued war and realised that no matter there opinions toward each other it was not in their own self-interests to continue.
Probably as close to the truth as anyone will come. Well said sir well said
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Ah yes. The posturing, the threats of PZI, the sore loser/sore winner complexes mixed in with inflated egos.
Let the Hegemony flow through you.
Time to create a pool on when hostilities will resume.
Considering TSO was formed from the high gov of MCXA who were dirty as hell I wouldnt talk to loud.
Judging by the responses in this thread this surrender strikes me as more of a cease-fire than anything.
It is unfortunatly .
Am I the only one not amused by Ubuntu's shtick?
Anyone claiming that this is a victory by Equilibrium is being delusional. No one would ever give up war without any terms if they thought they could achieve a decisive victory. Especially with as much insolence as the Competence side is displaying. Does anyone actually believe that Eq thinks DH learned their lesson and whatever threat they posed has been eliminated? And Eq are so gracious that they granting unilateral white peace with no reps out of the goodness of their heart? If you think this is true you're beyond delusional.
The only reason there's peace is because Eq leaders realize that this war is a boondoggle. Claiming that you won anything is like the U.S. claiming victory in Vietnam.
The delusion is that you all believe we couldnt have kept it up. We could have at great cost but we would have left a big enough hole that all your top nations would be able to do is bank as there would be no one in their range for a very long time. The chest thumping on both sides is ridiculous. Personally I think this peace was a mistake at this point as Com now has a very stron hold on upper tier and we at EQ did not damage enough of the upper middle and middle tiers to maintain dominance here.
It has been shown by numerous people that you were not on the list, and that while DR was talked about it was decided to not go after them. DR was discussed and then crossed off the list. Gov members have said as such here to correct this lie you keep spouting.Your analogy was most incorrect, but you have already decided that the message that Umbrella was looking at attack poor ol DR rings true to you, you have bought that line and reflect your views as if that were true. Like I said before, the truth doesn't matter because your views will not change regardless of how much evidence is given to you that proves your view false. In this sense the truth does not matter.
You dislike us so you believe all that is sad about us if it paints us in a bad light and claim you objectively came to this opinion of yours. You bought the propoganda, hook, line, and sinker.
Say what you will Caliph AI was in the cross hairs which meant DR was in the cross hairs. The IRON/TOP split may have slowed it down but eventually it woudl have happened IMO.
The same as what preceded this war: none. Had DH been the all-powerful titan immediately preceding, it wouldn't have lost this war. I wasn't exactly blowing smoke when I made all those claims about the world already being balanced before the war. This isn't to claim that nothing has changed, but if you didn't believe there was a multipolar world before, you would be beyond mad to refuse that belief now.
Damn i have to agree with you and I hate that.
Are you sure? Better check again. Oh yeah it's even bolded because that's all you got - words in a thread.
We got more than that but payed for it dearly.
I never surrendered, I was offered a "Cessation of Hostilities" by the nations I engaged last round.
That does not = Surrendering.
Therefore, Stewieland is still undefeated...
Am I grasping at enough straws there for everyone?? I think I have some spare
You sir crack me up :)
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Hats off to all my opponents yall wrecked my nation well. All things considered though ill keep the shotgun loaded as I have a feeling someone will be knocking on my door again soon.
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I thought you might've DoW'd some of them a day or two before this topic post. In that case it looks like a misstep from Sparta.
Uggg NG have fun with the chew toys. I like NG and wish them luck as this winds down.
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yeah I would, you dont always have to like or agree with members but different perspectives lead to great things. Besides we have Myth, you would be ok :)
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oh the goons there so funny. Dont you need to be on your knees begging for Dong from umbrella
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Lets be honest here, your coalition can't last a year in war mode against us.This just goes to show you how having well built nations with proper tech to infra ratios helps out more in the long run than having nations with poor infra to tech ratios.
Whether or not your side will change its ways to push for more tech heavy nations remains to be seen, since a lot of things will change depending on how this war ends up.
Caliph I dont know if that is exactly true. As long as your nations are held in anarchy with out the options to restock nukes you wont be able to last the year. While UMB and MK have some super nations with very large WCs I didnt see them that far ahead of nations on this side of the line. We continue to rotate and nuke and your super tech nukes cant be rebought your tech advantage has been somewhat nuetralized. If you choose to buy up and out of range which some of you could do you would be sidelined from the war while others would be ground down. There is no doubt the nation building down by UMB and TOP have created very difficult oppenents but even the mighty will fall with the weight of the world comming down upon them.
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See... that graph right there shows what I was stating. Pretty much even damage output regardless of the 3:1 advantage. Many DH/CnG countered the 3:1 advantage by the best way they could, limiting the damage output EQ was able to do with peace mode. In doing so, they have forced a quality over quantity game. And whether you like to admit it or not, the quality of the DH/CnG upper tier was built better than the EQ upper tier.
Damage may be even but remember one thing. This fight is very much David and Goliath in the tech area. DH/CNG with TOP had a relatively significant advantage there. For us to take these nations down many of us are having to buy back infra and run in to the meat grinder again. With out a doubt the upper tier in your coalition has a tech advantage while EQs upper tier was lacking tech. In the end we will continue to grind it down as we are willing to take the damage in order to maintain this war. As your nations are held in Anarchy your damage output will go down due to the TECH super nuke being taken out of the equation while our damage output should remain a bit more constant.
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see you soon RV.
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lol let's hope the rest of you are more competent than AI.
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wait what am I saying
I still got some nukes with your name on it from back in the day pip feel free to come knocking. -
Ill simply say hello old friends and may you enjoy yourselves. Sad to see you on the other side of things.
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TOP and MK fought a war and settled things with a mutual peace agreement. FAN got released from permawar only because NPO got rolled. TOP and MK is on equal footing politically and militarily and have a lot of common friends and common enemies. Not even close to being the same thing.
Yeah Val and Fan never fought each other either outside viet fan. Val never surrendered to FAN and there is no way a friendship could have ever developed there.
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Anyone who says FAN has stockholm syndrome LOLOLOLOLOL. So TOP makes a choice and its just friendship but no one else can do that. Anyone who thinks FAN does anything FAN doesnt want to do or doesnt believe in is an idiot to the nth degree. Mr Smythe i remember that pic well. Wood on and behind the screen. Great rolling with you guys this round glad we can finally fight side by side.
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We can keep doing this for months!
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Ducks flying together 0/ IRON
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Welcome FAN honored to fight by your side
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Well boy HOWDY let me get the general lee and my Junior hat and ill be right on over