ktarthan
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With Chax at the helm, I'm sure nothing can go wrong!
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[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1332512600' post='2942144']
You may be "people too" as you theorized, but you're vile, disgusting people. You're the kind of people that regular people wash their hands and face after dealing with. No one likes you because you've spent 3 years being unlikable.
Stop whining about how everyone hates you, you are despised because you're despicable and that's just what you've cultivated purposefully. People hate you because you want them to hate you.
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Honestly, this is the kind of reviling that GOONS needs. All of the trying to e-lawyer/philosophize/wall-of-text-at them about every single thing they do is boring and pointless. Bring something fresh to the table, and I'm sure they'll engange in a much more entertaining manner. -
[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1332452375' post='2941758']
Since when is someone having the balls to declare war on someone much bigger than them reason people would want to drive them away? We need more people willing to declare war for what they believe is right, not less.
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The OP specifically states this war is on their way out. He's already made his decision to leave. -
A nicely written post, but I feel the sentiment is ruined by the biased portrayal of events.
If you wish to make a point about free will and the necessity of choices, it would be much more powerful to make it from a more neutral point of view. As it is, alongside the main message you're also trying to piggyback a justification for Mongols and Kaskus, while vilifying GOONS. While I obviously see the incentive for doing so, this dilutes the message, and will do nothing but cause arguments unrelated to it. -
If you need some pointers, ask RUKUNU. He's been at it for near two and a half years.
Edit: Stonewall, you're a funny guy. You should do stand-up. -
[quote name='Swatch0' timestamp='1332283965' post='2940901']
This is exactly what is happening. Oh god they are actually fighting back, lets get some friends to cover up for the NS we are losing to 2 Micro alliances
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MK is trying to help GOONS maintain sanction status because we don't want to lose this swank pip. That's it. Do you actually think you're clever? -
When it stops being entertaining, most likely.
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[quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1332200625' post='2940404']
It can't be Timeline, if it were him, it would have been even more poorly constructed. I can concur with raiding does not push that many people out, it does, however, push them into alliances and generally give them a healthy hatred of raiders. I have two guys joined due to raids, which suits me fine. What will be amusing is when this place falls short of raid targets, which will happen, then I guess raids will not be as widely used, I'm sure of the raiders in here, will cry their little hearts out at that prospect? Maybe it might encourage more actual warfare, which may benefit the few remaining rulers left on this plane of existence.
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I agree, the syntax is strange but there aren't enough spelling mistakes to conclude that it's timeline.
And honestly it warms my heart to hear of raid targets joining up with alliances, especially if they cite the raid as a direct cause. After all the tech they take away, it's the least a raider can do to give back to the community in a positive way.
Also, I'd disagree about the prospect of a complete lack of raid targets. Yes the pool is growing ever smaller, but I feel that once the pool is small enough to cause a significant shortage, there will be far more pressing concerns than a lack of raids. -
If you compare the rate at which nations leave the world and the number of nations that GOONS actually raids, the percentage isn't particularly significant. And that's if you assume that every nation GOONS raids leaves the game because of it, which has been proven to not be the case. I ran the numbers a while back when GOONS was even larger and more prolific in their raiding, and it came out to be something under 3-5% when making all worst case assumptions.
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Looks like MK lacks the nations in range of Sword Alliance to fully retaliate. It looks like we will likely have to rely on the strength of GOONS this time around.
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So wait. FARK didn't actually *require* the beer reviews for peace, accepted plagiarized reviews, and still dropped the practice? I now wholly regret making the comparison earlier; it casts GOONS in a poor light being put beside such an aggressively boring alliance.
edit: jus some werd changes and bad tenses -
[quote name='EViL0nE' timestamp='1331828972' post='2938399']
GOONS pushes their mercy board as a way to make tangible the superior political position granted them by DH/PB over their opposition and to see how much ooc "humilation" they can force people to accept to remove themselves from a war.
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The Mercy Board has existed for much longer than DH or PB so it's good to see that you have no idea what you're talking about. -
[quote name='Atanatar' timestamp='1331764699' post='2938158']
Ah yes. If I shared/understood the GOONS mindset, I wouldn't think GOONS would be so ridiculous. Excellent retort.
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Nothing to do with sharing the mindset. You thinking that GOONS would reject completing the same terms that they dish out is so far off base that it makes it hard to take your interpretation of the situation with more than a grain of salt. -
[quote name='Atanatar' timestamp='1331763323' post='2938145']
The Mercy Boards are a punishment when those who set the terms use it as such, with an explicit threat to dissuade another route of conflict resolution. That is a bitter pill for ANYONE to swallow, and I imagine if some one had made the same threat to GOONS, GOONS would give a giant middle finger in response. The fact that NPL complied with their requests, and made several efforts shows that despite the efforts to jerk them around, they were willing to try.
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Your imagination is incredibly off base. If the shoes were on the other feet, members of GOONS would be [i]fighting[/i] over the chance to be the one(s) to complete the terms. I wouldn't be surprised if they held an internal competition to select the official term submission.
I think if you actually understood the GOONS culture and mindset, you'd not be so put off by the whole thing. -
[quote name='Atanatar' timestamp='1331756222' post='2938082']
And we acquiesced to allowing Ivan a Milk review. Unlike Sardonic, who's only compromise was to offer another month of war on an AA that was ZI'ed and heading to bill lock. Where as our terms are an attempt at light heartedness, your attempts are more stylized as an attempt to exercise the power you have.
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I'm not in GOONS any more, so it's not "our" attempts. But I can tell you sincerely that mercy board terms are not an exercise in power. They are a tool for entertainment, purely and simply. The terms aren't made specifically to be difficult to complete, and any applicant who appears to have fun with their term is instantly recieved 100% more positively. The Mercy Board looks and feels like a punishment only in one's head, as it is intended to be anything but. -
Why I'd say that the mercy board is nearly as heinous as requiring someone to review beer as a term!
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This just in: GOONS doesn't have many nations above 40K NS. Millions shocked.
Maybe next time MONGOLS can get into a war with Umbrella, and we can all laugh when Umbrella calls in GOONS to pad their lower tier.
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[quote name='Lord Caparo' timestamp='1331193064' post='2935412']
But ive noticed, even with the extra nations coming over, that this feels more like an even war than any other war ive seen GOONs fight in. Its been fun and i hope it continues to be!
Congrats on that
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Unfortunately most of the fighting nations in Kaskus are in GOONS's blindspot (above 50K). Sometimes they just need a little help pushing the meat down into the meatgrinder. -
[quote name='PaladinePSoT' timestamp='1331155661' post='2935173']
No.
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Down with GOONS! -
I started Roguefest 2010. Give me a medal.
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Voted other because you attached sentiments to the answers instead of just "Yes" "No" and "Maybe". Someone doesn't have to want their alliance to take part in something to also want to see it happen. They're obviously lazy, but it's possible.
I personally do not hold any particular attachment to the "seat of power" that MK allegedly sits in at the moment. It's certainly a fun place to be, but I wouldn't begrudge anyone who wishes to attempt to unseat us. Now I don't exactly wish destruction upon me and mine, but destruction is the way of the world, and if it's going to happen it might as well be due to a meaningful endeavor.
On the other hand, I think that everyone who isn't in my sphere is terminally boring, so I can only despair at the kind of world we would have without us at the top. -
[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1331007002' post='2934400']
You didn't ask a real quesiton. You asked whether I had something to ask Nippy, which I asked Nippy.
You'll have to forgive the organization. If not, oh well!
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Actually I thought you had asked something of GOONS in general, not of Nippy. Considering the lengthy discussion you're having with Sard, I thought it was the plural "you". You also read far too much into my words; I was literally asking you for a recap because I didn't want to have to parse 3+ pages of you and Sard bickering to discern a point. (Don't worry about the recap, I'm no longer interested.) -
[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1330992480' post='2934267']
I'm well aware you're just here to +1
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So, about my question, is that a yes or a no? -
[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1330989689' post='2934216']
You seem to still be unable to respond. I hate to point it out but Sardonic didn't actually answer anything I had asked of you.
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I have been trying to follow along and I'm not entirely sure I got exactly what you've been "asking of" GOONS. I know I'm going to regret this, but perhaps you could recap?
A Joint Statement from Kaskus and Mongols
in Alliance Announcements (IC)
Posted
I think it's funny for people to think that "GOONS getting rolled" is somehow a meaningful thing. They get "rolled" by many definitions every time they fight in a major war. If you want to make a vague threat at GOONS, you have to step up your game.