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Posts posted by King Louis the II
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This post is beyond my greatest expectations.
They labeled who would be aggressors and defenders in point one. Nothing about jumping into the war. So, I ask again, do they hold a treaty with any of the alliances that were attacked?
Not yet, ask the same question in 1 or 2 days....
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Does Gremlins hold a treaty with Athens, GOD, or \m/?
Can you really read point 1 above?
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As to the first matter (TPF's aggression against Athens/Ragnarok) -
[*]Point 1:
We consider TPF to have attacked Athens/Ragnarok. We consider anyone who declares on TPF's side to be the aggressors, and Athens/Ragnarok to be fully justified in defending themselves via military conflict against TPF. We consider anyone who declares on Athens/Ragnarok's side to be the defenders. This includes those whose declarations have multiple degrees of separation from the initial conflict.
Signed,
SynthFG, Executor
Drizuz, Praetor
Ramirus Maximus, Judicator
So I guess Gramlins should declare on VA, IRON and Co. right? Since they declared on Athens....When we will see the DoW?
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Second time an pseudoAA is created to "destroy" Sparta in two months. How fancy to have our own stalkers.
and NPO and NSO claim that they are the most hated... feel some envy guys....
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Were your treaties with MK and GR canceled during my hiatus (during one of my check-ins I noticed some argument between y'all and MK, but I don't know whether anything came of it)? If not, you're indirectly tied to Athens. Even if those treaties are gone, you're still tied to CnG via STA via MK.
-Bama
I had the impression the NpO had a MDoP with RoK as well.
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I never liked NSO, during the last days I have been reading STA posts and started to have a great admiration for them. However, deep inside I always felt..well but these guys are NSO friends...
This announcement is a great joy to me.
Congratulations STA. I have a profound respect for you guys!
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Spying, Sabotage, High School drama, fake logs...................
How low CN can get??? I guess next war people will break their enemies computer as a legit act of war.
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NEW RULE:
Know biased and boring threads anymore...
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Great post. I approve this msg! (which btw, nobody cares...)
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War Planning will take another 11 days James. Sit back, relax and eat some caek. Jhonny boy, Yes I am very bitter, your one liners tear my emotions apart
Whats the point to join after TPF was completely spanked? How would you help them?
I think TPF got enough spanking and actions should be suspended now. Peace should be offered, end of story.
However, if some people want to extend the party.....well, I love festivals...
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I think thats a great post. The point that I have haven't been discussed yet.
1- I think there was a godd valid reason for war...yada yada yada
2- TPF was punished.
My question is: Isn't the punishment already enough? Just look at the charts of TPF NS. Shouldn't a white peace be offered right now?
If TPF wanted to continue, or its allies wanted to jump in is another story, but for now I think the punishment was delivered. We don't need an "overkill"
edit: good was spelled wrong and valid is a better word.
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I hope you consider Sparta....
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MHA is among my 5 favorite alliances.
Shall you have luck and prosperity..
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Spartans keep marching...
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I guess they are...or, actually...no they are just ignoring you.
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My opinion is very simple. TPF did a very bad thing. They deserved punishment. My only question is: Wasn't the punishment enough already? Maybe is time for a white peace.
If they want to continue, it is a different story.
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Everything's right if not for one thing:
TPF is not proven guilty in spying.
Thus, this thread is epic PHAIL.
Epic fail? read it again: "Neither alliance may directly participate in espionage of any type, regardless of situation and target. " Pretty clear and unambiguous.
I know that it was said only 1423252 times but: TPF started an act of espionage (they assumed). This is participating, no matters it succed, if spies send information or not.
and fo for 343242 time it was worst them spying it was to "destroy an alliance from the inside", which in my view it qualifies as an aggressive act.
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Bring it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....The radio. I willing to donate something...
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was the Zero hour symbol got from BOPE? The special forces of the Militar Police in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil? It is identical.
Anyway, I think it is clear that what TPF planned was really low. Have they been punished enough? maybe..
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my thoughts exactly.
This happened in war. If it had happened outside/after Karma, then there would be a problem, but it didn't. Athens hasn't proven that this Op existed after the surrender. Only that it existed during the war, and spying happens all the time during wars.
I know that this is only the 1,345,672 time that somebody would say that, but it is not only "spying", was to infiltrate an alliance and try to get in the ranks and create tension and ultimately "destroy" (their words not mine) the alliance.
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I would suggest "The sleeping sleeper cell" war...
however "The soap opera war" is great!~
(edit: grammar, thanks to Sigrun)
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Proud of our friendship with TCI! HAROOh!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thats beautiful:
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All I can read is, TPF gave us a weak reason to fight them because something that they did 6 months before and we are so much bloodthirsty to even think about fix that diplomatically.
Funny how all replys that I get is "WE ARE RIGHT, THEY TRIED TO SPY ON US!"
Nobody here, or at least me, are trying to say that you are wrong or TPF are right people, what I'm trying to say is: You could have fixed that diplomatially, there was no reason of a war over something that happened 6 months before, and after all, if the diplomatic talks have failed you still would have your war.
I don't know if this could be solved diplomatically or not. I always think the diplomatic route is better. But...IT WAS NOT JUST ABOUT SPYING. And six months ago was when everything started...who knows how long the process was still alive until they decided to change sides..! If it is true that there was a plot to organize an AA , infiltrate and DESTABILIZE an AA ant I think that was a very low move. If was just spying I might have agreed with you...
Announcement from the Grämlins
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It is pretty clear to me.