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ojiras ajeridas

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  1. Anything else than a white peace wouldn't fit in this situation. Every involved alliance did a good fight, and while there were no mercy on the battlefield, there was much honor outside. I have much respect at these alliances on the side of Hegemony. Although facing a large numerical superiority they fought without even thinking to complain. They entered the war with pride, and they leave the war with pride. And they deserve to do so.

    Invicta, Nebula X, although I didn't fight anyone of you directly, I have to say it was a pleasure to have opponents of your category. May your alliances soon return on old numerical strength. The moral strength is already on an all time high.

  2. One can say same about your post. We have nearly 800 members and they are free to speak or interpret meanings as they see fit. Council has clarified its positive and strong position with TOP leadership, at least thats what the message they sent out last time I talked to anyone of those.

    Members long expected TOP will fight besides those who are with Karma. But specifically using OUT is like throwing an insult, it implies a totally opposite political message to the positive talk that is visible here. It is I believe unintentionally giving a wrong impression of TOP and IRON's relations. While it is understandable TOP's military and political obligations lean towards those fighting for Karma but we look forward on how TOP can play a positive constructive role on the hours when the guns begin to get quite and end these unintentional miscommunications once and for all and prove all those who doubt wrong.

    I'm sure TOP will do the best to fit in this positive constructive role after the war, not looking where the alliances fought, but who the alliances are. And I'm confident that our alliances will get past this little misunderstanding, as it never was our objective to do anything that could leave a bad taste in IRON's mouth. The high reguards in which IRON is held at TOP didn't change in this conflict.

  3. I really don't understand all this crying. NPO, when they declared war at OV, didn't see TOP as friend any more. Why else didn't they ask for help? I mean, if you look at their actions, TOP didn't play a big role in their hegemony system any more. In that peace talks, TOP was put aside when NPO was ready. I could imagine that NPO knew they went to war since the beginning. But that of course is hard to proof.

    Fact is the following: When you leave peace talks and declare war, you act aggressively. Acting aggressively you start a war. Starting a war, you bring war upon yourself:

    Article V

    This pact will not trigger reciprocal defense obligations in the event that a signatory has engaged in espionage, extreme provocation of another party, or otherwise conducted its foreign affairs in such a way as to bring the conflict upon itself.

    So, actually, this MDP was never obligatory in this war. And as TOP was the alliance (in person of GM Crymson) to lead the peace talks, for NPO it is quite hard to make us think something else. I mean, NPO brought this war upon itself. It was clear since the beginning that this wouldn't be a war where NPO stomped OV and that's it. Can't imagine that Crymson really took care that much about OV (I mean, I needed some time that OV doesn't mean One Vision ;) ) if he didn't know the consequences of this war. As it seems, some guys of NPO undervalued these consequences. But, if I were NPO, I'd take an example at IRON and Invicta. They both are fighting, they aren't crying. And after all TOP didn't declare on NPO. We declared on Invicta. Invicta finished in this war as most alliances did. They didn't spy, they didn't break up peace talks. But the way they are acting now will bring them advantages after the war. Maybe NPO should begin to think too that sometimes you need other alliances, it's not always that other alliances need you.

  4. It was my belief TOP wins this war by not fighting it.

    And there were such beliefs also among some members of TOP. But beside the pragmatism of TOP there's also some idealism inside, and this time that idealism won. It took some time and the toughest discussions for ages, and that's the reason we joined late. Only to look who will be winning, well in that case we would have been in the second day of the war ;)

  5. Walker I will never ever question your motives, integrity or your word, however are you kidding?

    This place has been powder keg of gun powder for months now, this was the spark that lit the fuse.

    So, why would you agree to peace talks with Crymson as mediator, if you know that you will attack? Why should Crymson spend hours and hours on IRC if nobody in TOP thought that somebody would be interested in avoiding war? And how does TOP not feel somehow taken for a ride if all should have been nothing but show?

  6. After all it's a sad day for TOP. We joined a war where very close friends fight another directly, where other friends spat in our face. We joined a war that could have been avoidable, but that went out of control that soon. We joined a war we wish it would finish very soon. It wasn't an easy decision to join a conflict where you're allies are that mixed up on both sides, and this makes the entry in a war very difficult. But we couldn't just stay behind the fence, eat some pop-corn and see things developing. We discussed it well, maybe too well, until we came to the conclusion that we had to join the side where most (not all) of our true friends already were. And here we are. Maybe with some delay, but we are proud to join our friends in the battlefield. If this is bandwaggoning, so may it be. I'm proud to be a bandwaggoner then.

  7. I really congratulate myself on being in one of this most awesome alliances signing this most awesome treaty. And because of this I want to go to have a most awesome party this evening with me and myself and maybe some other people. Hope they will understand the reason for the party!!!!

  8. It is a MTYARIP. Mandatory That You Actually Read It Pact.

    I'd define it a MADoP.... Mutual Aggressive Defense optional Pact :P

    Think we all have to wait until the next big war to really see what this actually is

    However congrazzz on it....

    AND NOW EVEN I POSTED IN THIS EPIC THREAD!

  9. My alliance told me that I have to get some tech ;)

    OK, I'm looking for a long term tech trade. I send you 2 millions, you send me 50 tech, a.s.o. I know, there's cheaper tech, but in this way I saw that I haven't to look out so much for it, and I'm a bit lazy in these things.

    I'm interested in getting 2 partners for this. And... I'll choose not necessarily the fastest to respond - as I prefer to trade with nations in alliances I've some friendships in. Hope this is not taken personal....

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