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10 votes, not 6. Each alliance gets two votes, and Old Guard doesn't count during expulsion hearings. That being said, it is then only 67% of the votes cast, 80% of votes being required for quorum.
Thus, at least 6/8 votes had to have been cast in favor of voting OG out.
Other possibilities: 7/8, 8/8, 6/9, 7/9, 8/9, 9/9, 7/10, 8/10, 9/10, 10/10
That make absolutely no sense, why would an alliance any alliance vote to expel another alliance with 1 vote and then with the second vote they decide to do the opposite is just..well the picture below will explain better then I could.
Edit : I feel the need to elaborate more on it as it just comes off as ignorant of me to just state something with no evidence as to why it wouldn't make sense. The thing is that Hizzy's point was that at most of the Citadel didn't support the idea of OG sharing their ideals etc. Hizzy then said that OG would have AT MOST 1 friend in Citadel if any of the said alliances voted to not remove OG, you then said that each alliance has 2 votes which wouldn't change anything. I mean if any of those alliances decide to cast 1 vote to each side that would show that the government of the said alliance was indecisive and thus they would be still debating over it and the point of the vote would essentially be non-existent and said alliance would have done better not to vote at all as they're obviously having their own internal struggles if they can't cast the same vote twice. Which would lead to the vote not being fair to the said alliance you would be voting on because if the X alliance that was voting for the removal or not of Y alliance and put 1 to each because they couldn't decide and then later on decided that the Y alliance shouldn't have been removed then your only creating internal strife and more over corruption.
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In the jungle the mighty jungle the tiger sleeeeppss tonight. I like it..
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Tigers on shrooms will never get old.
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See this has some effort besides lacking in class but I see talent Oh yes Talent. Demented probably but talent none the less.
No demented would be "baby eating" as your kind likes to call it over there in Pacifica. Congratulations though you managed to make me shake my head in disappointment.
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The difference is,that my comrade actually had something to say. This thread i just a cheap shot.
Everytime a member of the NPO posts one of those "Why I'm NPO" threads a cow is brutally tortured, murdered, and then BBQ'd. Namely one that likes to call himself "Moo-tang clan."
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A war can always be fought for "the right reasons." If no war measures up to your particular standards, then that is your problem, not the problem of those that support it under certain circumstances.
We must avoid moral relativism, both here on Planet Bob and in RL. An environment of moral relativism is what NPO thrived in and attempted to advocate strongly through Francoism.
Never question if the war against NPO a good war. That is the talk of a generation of self doubters that vex my RL nation. I'd like to think that perhaps we can do better here.
Don't get me wrong I never said that I had no morality, I do and it belonged with the Karma side. (though I also agree some people took that morality to a level that wasn't necessary) I do believe in Karma but on a different standard, I believe the following quote will explain my personal opinion on it accurately
"For ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction."
It took a heck of along time for that opposing reaction but it happened.
Also "the right reasons" comes back to ones own point of view, for example some people would think that it was wrong for the NPO to attack OV, while others might say otherwise. In any case if you believe in what your doing is right then that should be good enough for the said person to do whatever they feel is necessary to uphold those said beliefs.
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[OOC]Is it morally superior to be indifferent towards a murder you see being commited?[/OOC]
[OOC]You can't compare a RL murder to a destruction of 1's and 0's followed by a possible humiliation on the internet, it just doesn't work.[/OOC]
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in my opinion, that is a very self centered attititude. Enjoy every moment with all you got. The world ends with you. If you want to enjoy life, expand your world. Learn more about these alliances you are not directly connected to. You gotta push your horizons out as far as they'll go.
Why? I just finished saying I don't care if or what others opinions of me are and what makes you think you have that right to tell me what to do? Who are you to judge me anyway?
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I'm not one of those people that believes that no war can be just. Rather, I now believe that a war can only be just and ever worth fighting when conditions are absolutely morally perfect and everything turns out exactly as I want it to turn out. It's much more proper to stand back and mock the imperfections of those whose efforts you benefit.
I feel the need to go further into this, only a bit though since I don't like putting so much effort into posting and in this game in general .
Justice is part of a persons point of view, both sides of a conflict for example will think that their side has justice on it. (at least I'd hope so otherwise why else would they be fighting?) Not everybody is going to agree that one side is just and right, if they did and everybody agreed then there would be no justice, morality, or war. Everybody would be in perfect harmony and war wouldn't exist in the first place as well as these words would have no use or meaning. Although on the flip side I guess you could argue that justice would lie in what which the majority of the world or bob in this case leans too but then that would mean that justice was with the NPO for the past two years, which is possible but then this war's meaning or the meaning that people have been spouting would not exist.
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There are a great many people here who would argue that indifference is equivalent to being the perpetrator.
This is me not caring. Unless I have a direct connection, i.e ; they're a friend. I honestly don't care what they have to say or tell me. I'll act how I want and nobody else can tell me otherwise.
@Sal : I'm not mocking you one bit, you have the right to express your own opinions and ideals, I was just stating my own in turn.
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I would assume then that you believe that terms should be administered according to strategy and not based on the morality of the alliances involved, correct?
It is a pleasent surprise to see members of alliances involved on the Karma side of the war aknowledging this war for what it is, and not some candy coated ultimate salvation. A tip of my hat to you.
To be frank I don't give a crap how the terms are dictated to any of the alliances of the Hegemony. It doesn't concern me one bit.
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Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I meant to ask if the reasoning behind the alliances fighting in the Karma war was based on strategy? Since there is is no morality in war according to your earlier post.
As I'm not in charge of any alliance at all on either side I couldn't say it was as my earlier post reflects on myself and my own beliefs. Do I personally believe it was strategic? Yes it was as we see the results were satisfactory to most.
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If there is no morality in war, you would say that the Karma War was strategic then?
If your asking if it was executed in a much better fashion then the noCB war then yes it is.
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Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just 2 sides holding different views.
My point being is morality was just the point of view of the winning side this time, was there actually any morality in war or has there ever been morality in war? No, war has no room for morality it is and always has been kill or be killed. That may not completely apply in the cyber verse but it more or less holds true up to the point of "kill or be killed" since you can't actually die on a computer game.
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Will you remake \m/?
Toshiro Hitsugaya OR Yoruichi Shihoin? Explain your answer.
Tigers or Cows?
Do you think Moo-Cows should be known as THE hamburger from now on?
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All this snuggling leads me to one question : What does a Tiger and a Viper make..?
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Sponge would take the cake as Viceroy, that's probably the worst possible insult we could throw the NPO's way
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I'm pretty sure you could say the same about the alliances that fought us and disbanded, at least about the incompetent leadership part.
Oh so apparently Grub is incompetent now? New's to me.
And now you're allied with those evil Polar people you killed your alliance.A Polar that isn't run by Sponge, that would be tLC
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Poll lacks Tygaland aka "Bizarro-Moo"
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Sounds like internally it's been kind of a quiet week in STA all together.
Well we're always talking about how we can steal all of tyga's twinkies so it wasn't all bad
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OH GOD RANDOM YOUVE BECOME THE MONSTER.
YES HE IS! AND I AM PROUD TO BE RANDOM #2 (maybe someday I'll be as evil...*goes to get lessons*
)Electron Sponge is a fattie and I blame him for making me fat because I wanted to be handsome just like him. Class action anyone?You got fat because you wouldn't share your twinkies
Clearly this is all a plot by Random, I blame Random.Yesssssssss
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OOC: Wow, I seem to have ... uhh ... broke the forums. Sorry about that. The mess that appears in between my and capitalC's post is the later part of my post.
I was wondering about that. Took me awhile to figure it out too
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Let's try something constructive here:
The two weeks war for any peace mode nations is plain and simple an attempt to force large parts of Pacifica to re roll. Don't come with the argument that "the same was done to GATO" because first GATO is not at war with Pacifica and second those terms were never carried out.
The hard liners in the Karma coalition need to grow up and drop that requirement.
Furthermore i propose a white peace for Pacifica and payment from the Hardliners in Karma to Pacifica from 100 million for each and every page of this topic.
End this cycle of violence here and now.
I never thought I'd get the chance to use this picture so soon..
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I have the max amount of replies per page going and I have 68 pages. How many is it on normal?
One hundred thirty-six
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I believe I explained why in my edit that your system would not work very well. Though I do wonder who this "Tiga" is that you speak of..Very interesting.