Semper Fidelis

Where are those ss's that he kicked you out because you wouldn't go along with it? Here is ss for you tyler

Wrong...you got kicked out because you flipped out because Nightmare told you that you're a terrible Vice President...quit playing the innocent role. Your SS is of you guys talking about the "plan" early in feb.... and you didn't leave till like 2 weeks later...so obviously if our plan was to do this you were fine with it also

Haha, thats not why you left/got booted. It's because Nightmare said you were a crappy vice president and you flipped like you usually do. Not because you didn't want to do the "plan" that we weren't even going to do...quit lying

I would actually personally like to see those logs that lornightmare said Fireblade left because of school. Because i think you possibly mixed that up, as i am the one who hadn't been active really for our alliance due to my schooling. And i can post logs of me asking what happened to tyler and him saying he flipped out

He's talking about the attack of NPO site in the past, which i already posted a link in the other thread to NPO's forum where you can see how MinDs aka MisledRH on this game bad mouthed them and threatened their site in 11 days or w/e. The same guy who got kicked out of the alliance and gave you the logs of us planning to attack NPO which were from over a month ago and Misled had no idea what we were doing or planning for past 3 weeks

As i stated earlier Tyler, you know as well as i did it was a thought that ran through our minds as you were well aware since you were for it as others were. You have no idea what we talked about or decided on for over 3 weeks now, and the logs were from over a month ago. Maybe you can't get that through your tiny 15 year old brain, this is just another fine example of the MinDs we all know who randomly flips out, and then tries to get "back" at us. Congrats Leviathan you sure picked a winner there as you soon will find out. So congrats Tyler on getting you're revenge on us because you flipped out and got kicked out of Jarheads. Obviously you have since obviously it's impossible to persuade NPO, Iron, and others that the idea was not what we were going to do, as i posted with my SS's we were happy to be with Iron and be connected with NPO which were logs from just this past Friday.....a lot closer then your logs from a month ago. Which the logs came from you, who was a sore loser and tried to get ur personal vendetta against us when you were a part of Jarheads from the start and were fine with the possible "plan". Congrats for getting let off the hook by them, you must feel so cool to frame so called friends that you've known were multiple years. When he flips out the next time, at least i warned everyone and can say i told you so. And thank you Uralica, as you at least listened to me and didn't jump to conclusions, and actually see where what I've said makes sense. As everything I've said has been true, that i knew who sent the logs and why, and Misled came on here and proved i was right, that Misled has no idea what's happened or been talked about between me and nightmare for weeks, because we kicked him for flipping out as usual. And caught Misled in a lie where he said his aka wasn't MinDs and then i prove with a SS and he edits that out of his post, because i proved his aka is MinDs, who was the one who flipped out on the NPO on their forums the last time.

Also says i don't want to attack someone and get owned which would be the case if we attacked NPO, and Nightmare said we're not. Moron

You were an X DD also, and your second chance should be gone as well as you wanted NPO dead

Lmao, i can bring on many people from the alliance that knows you aka is MinDs. O here is a SS of me asking you what happened on Cn cause u left on another SN you use...Lord"minds"RH

Misled was aka Minds on CN forums......http://pacificorder.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=40143&st=120 Go there and see if he wasn't the one threatening, his aka is Minds. Also Tyler, these SS's are from awhile ago and as i stated me and Nightmare wasn't going to do the "plan", but you would know right, cause u quit the alliance and went on a vendetta, and obviously you were a part of the "plan" since you were in it at the beginning. I got plenty of SS's that have me and nightmare talking that can obviously show we weren't doing such a thing, some i already posted. So go back to trying to sabatoge us because u got booted

As i clearly stated they got the logs from our vice president who got in a fight and sent them for a vendetta against us. And i stated earlier that is was an idea when we first started, that never did i say was just Misled's idea, it was idea that was talked about that obviously he was a part of, but he would have no idea what me and nightmare were planning on doing with the alliance since he left, and as i posted ss's of me and nightmare talking this past friday that was happy with our small nation and being connected with the NPO through Iron.

If NPO goes back to the old topic on their forums from the past time, Misled was the one threatening their forums would be down in 13 days or w/e, who got banned from their fourms

Even with this video we never stated in it that we're growing in order attack the NPO. I am obviously speaking on these topics to try to make peace, and sort out everything. We would be willing to make peace, and what I'm looking for to hopefully happen. But if peace is not going to be a option given to us, then we made this video to atleast have a slight chance to defend ourselves unlike if we only had our 50 nations and they all would easily be destroyed. Though this video was made, no where in it did it say join so we can attack the NPO, we are trying to get more nations to actually give us a chance to not be utterly destroyed if NPO, Iron, and others are not willing to talk a peace agreement over. As i stated, Nightmare and I were fully satisfied with where we were at before all of this happened, which was a smaller alliance of 50 or so that were doing tech deals with Iron and a protectorate. We were just hoping to slowly grow and establish our alliance as it was, and didn't want a have a country with a hundred or so nations we would get from the video and make sure they follow the rules, and because the "plan" was forgotten and discarded. Wanted to start small and get everything established with other good nations in our alliance who knew our rules and could help keep others following the rules if we started to grow more

There is no intention on making such a video, it was only a mere idea at the start of our alliance that we discarded as i have stated. The only reason it was made was because we were already being attacked and blamed for "logs" that were given by someone who isn't even in our alliance. If we're going to get rolled for them, then we my as well do what were getting blamed for. But as i stated, why if we were planning an attack would we not make this video earlier to start getting all these new nations and building them up. Because we weren't going to. But if we're going to get blamed for it and attacked without actually talking to me or nightmare about it and taking logs from someone who left our alliance and has a vendetta against us then why not make a video? We're getting told that we were going to make a video and plan a full out attack on the NPO, yet we hadn't which makes no sense if we were planning attack to wait.

There's a SS of aid of MisledRH, the former Vice President, just to prove that nation was in Jarheads at one time. I could also pull people from the alliance who would also back me up that the nation link i posted is the one of Fireblade4k (has two other sn's he uses also), and that he use to be the Vice President. As i stated the "idea" that was stated in logs and such was one at the start of our alliance because some had grudges. That idea was discarded shortly after as we wanted to actually have a good alliance. Why would we not post the video a long time ago if we wanted to get members to take on the NPO, so we could start to build them all up? Simple, because we weren't doing that "plan", and we were happy doing tech deals and being a protectorate of Iron while building up our smaller alliance. I hope by the screen shots of me and nightmare talking that we were actually happy to kind of being connected with the NPO since we were good friends with Iron, as night said "Thats a good thing." I don't think someone would want to be connected with a alliance who was allied with the NPO if they were planning on attacking them. I also posted logs to show how me and nightmare were trying to improve our alliance, because we had a lot of organizing to be done, and wanted more activity on the forums. So if you want to roll us for having a "idea" at the beginning of the alliance because of NPO destroying us in the past, then i can't stop you nor can anyone, but all i can say is that the "idea" was not something we were going to be doing, that it was thrown out early on, and that me and Nightmare were looking forward to getting activity on our forums and talking with other alliances and getting friendly relations, without the former VP. It wasn't a plot, it was a possible idea that we didn't go with because we actually wanted to start and keep the alliance, not just do something stupid like attack the NPO. We were just going to forget what happened in the past and move on. In all honesty, he obviously sent them to have this such thing happen to us, as he leaves the alliance and joins another alliance, going into peace mode to save himself, because he gets mad at Nightmare, but not actually telling the real proof that the so called "plan" wasn't what me and Nightmare were planning for our alliance. These logs are from someone who hasn't even been in the alliance in the past two weeks because he left cause he had a falling out with the leader.

The drop was when the former vice president left, and then a friend of his he brought to the alliance (forget his name, was stronger then misledRH) left a day after or so

I stated earlier that there was such a plan at the beginning because some had some past grudges, but we decided not to do such that. And the Fireblade guy was the guy i was talking about who was the former Vice President who had a falling out and left, http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...&Extended=0 This is a SS of me and Nightmare talking this past friday February 27 Someone who is looking to attack the NPO would be happy we are sort of tied to them because Iron was our protectorate?

That's a ss of my outbox, i sent all 50 or so of our members at the time the same message....the message read *just realized i said requirement msgs, was suppose to be recruitment I sent these out i think a day before Iron made the announcement on here about canceling our protectorate. That night, Nightmare was telling me over aim that Iron wasn't going to be our protectorate anymore because we were real small and didn't want to deal with it, but was giving us one of their allies, Nueva Vida to look over us. That night we talked about what we wanted to do like going to alliances Iron was allied to, and start at least starting convo with them, along with setting rules of attacking and such that we were going to post on the forums, which is why i sent out 50 msgs to our members to start using the forums because we wanted them to be a tool to talk about things and where they can read any rules updates and such As a Iron mentioned earlier about some of the tech deals, we had some nations that just didn't get what to do, even after Iron and Jarheads basically told them....why we were happy with an average size alliance because we still had a lot of things we needed to get worked on, and getting a whole lot of more nations would only make it harder to organize.

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...&Extended=0

There is no dispute it was an idea, but an idea that had been thrown away. The guy who talked to Iron mostly was a former Vice Prez who had a falling out with the leader and left for another alliance. Only two people who had contact with Iron was the leader and the Vice President, so i know it wasn't Nightmare who said any of that in the logs, so that leaves the former Vice. And I'm guessing that if just recently Iron has canceled our protectorate and notified the "parties" of the plan, that means that the logs probably were not from too long ago, as i don't think Iron would wait long to cancel the protectorate and notify NPO of the suspected "plan". And just looking at the former vice president's nation, i think he's joined a different alliance then the one he was in after he left, but either way he's been in the alliance he is now for 9 days. So that means this information/logs were probably sent after he had left, and had no actual part into what our plans actually were besides the mentioned "idea" that was brought up when we first started. Me and Nightmare actually talked about our plans just days before Iron made this announcement and we were happy with the size of our alliance and was going to work on getting our nations to be active on our forums and were going to set down rules to be put into place that were to be followed, and reach out and get into contact with other alliances that were allied with Iron to start a friendly relationship with since Iron was our protectorate at the time. I can post logs of such convo between us, but was through aim so i guarantee most would say they were made up, so i could ss them all also. We were not going to make such a video either because A) We weren't doing the so called "plan" that was told, and B ) We didn't really want a surge of growth, and liked our 50 or so members and were going to work on just starting our alliance and getting all the rules and diplomacy going. Honestly, if we had this plan in effect, and were going to go through with it, why would we wait to make such a video? What would be the benefit of not making it right away to get people to create nations and start growing? We would of wanted to make such a video weeks ago when we first started in order to get nations to start growing. Why didn't we, because we had no such plan to follow through with it, we wanted to actually have a successful alliance. And he should take my word for it, as i am in Jarheads and know what goes on, and know who were the ones talking to Iron, which were Night, and the former Vice President. So that means that leaves two people to have said those such logs about or plan, Nightmare and him, and i know it wasn't nightmare, so that leaves the nation who left our alliance weeks ago, who went into peace mode as soon as he left.

Haha it's all propaganda. The logs you have of the guy talking about our "plans" isn't even in the alliance anymore, hasn't been for a week or two now. Also, maybe at first when we first started up we had some hostility towards NPO for the last time, and had a idea of such a plan, yet if someone actually took enough time to actually ask us about it, you would of realized that we didn't care anymore about what happened in the past and was just going to move forward and starting a good alliance, and was happy to have Iron to help with tech deals, and be our protectorate. The whole "plan" was more a possible idea, and one that we quit even thinking about weeks ago....but yet the guy who spread most of our "plan" is not in fact in our alliance as he had a falling out