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  1. [quote name='Banksy' date='20 July 2010 - 02:35 AM' timestamp='1279611314' post='2380258']
    Perhaps it's not a great word to use. It does imply some sort of land ownership (which is not my intention).

    The signatories are saying that no one else may touch red nations. They are protected by the signatories. Red becomes their exclusive 'property' to exploit.

    By saying 'you cannot go here, and I will prevent you from doing so' implies a watered down version of 'ownership.'
    [/quote]
    I can see the parallels between this sort of protection and ownership. However, I have a problem with using the words interchangeably. Saying the signatories of Red DAWN are trying to claim ownership over other red nations feels a lot like an attempt to flip the moral image of the whole situation. By trying to paint what Red DAWN is doing as wrong, as imperialistic and arrogant, some might seek to divert attention from the true offense: the destruction of innocent nations. For those of you who don't care about or don't believe in morality, this doesn't really matter. But there are powerful individuals and alliances that do care about that sort of thing, and its easy to see how someone might attempt to sway these people's opinions on the matter by using this sort of disingenuous description of what Red DAWN is doing.

  2. [quote name='Banksy' date='20 July 2010 - 02:14 AM' timestamp='1279610057' post='2380240']
    They're protesting against a group of alliances, saying that they can't claim ownership over an entire sphere. This Red DAWN pact cannot legitimately claim ownership of an economic sphere.
    [/quote]
    I understand their qualms with Red DAWN. I'm saying the reason they have a problem with it is that it seeks to restrict their power to raid as they please, something that they value. So, in defying Red DAWN, they are exerting that power.

    Also, since when does that treaty dictate anything like property rights to the signatories? I understand the raiding protection clause may be overstepping the boundaries of an economic treaty, but saying that it implies ownership is a fair bit of hyperbole.

  3. [quote name='Voytek' date='20 July 2010 - 02:12 AM' timestamp='1279609940' post='2380237']
    Not so much about demonstrating our own power as it is about demonstrating NPO's lack thereof. Their days of essentially claiming ownership of a colour sphere are done and dusted.
    [/quote]
    When it comes to enemies, one is tantamount to the other in my opinion. But I understand what you're saying.

  4. [quote name='the masheen' date='20 July 2010 - 01:52 AM' timestamp='1279608726' post='2380208']
    Yeah, almost as laughable as claiming it's just to show that they're "The toughest kids on the block". I was simply pointing out that PC, GOONS, Umbrella, \m/, and MK are all friends and I'm sure they're having a good time raiding together. Having good times with your friends is a form of bonding.
    [/quote]
    It's pretty clear that the individuals involved are undertaking this "safari" to illustrate their own power to raid whomever they want. They are, indeed, showing how "tough" they are in exorcising what they call their rights.

    Also, having fun and bonding over the act of stealing from and destroying helpless individuals makes the act much more reprehensible. I don't really know what you're getting at in characterizing it as such.

  5. [quote name='King Puffington' date='20 July 2010 - 01:17 AM' timestamp='1279606636' post='2380162']
    Are you implying that the dominant alliances are not involved in this fine Safari?

    You should be careful what you wish for, though. :ph34r:
    [/quote]
    Well, members of those alliances are quite clearly involved. And I have no doubt that if they were not a part of powerful, well-connected alliances the raiders would not be undertaking organized endeavors such as this. Furthermore, those alliances will do nothing to curb this behavior. Thus, those alliances are enabling them.

    As I understand it this safari was not officially planned or sanctioned by any of these alliances, so I guess I stopped short of saying they are explicitly involved.

  6. I honestly preferred when the dominant alliances of the world were those that imposed viceroys and destroyed alliances. That was interesting at very least. Nowadays dominant alliances simply sit back and enable this pack of retards to do whatever they want. Its not amusing, its not interest, its just annoying.

  7. [quote name='zzzptm' date='16 July 2010 - 07:57 PM' timestamp='1279328217' post='2375270']
    Polaris vs. SF came up, as well. That could be a potential conflict that tears through the heart not only of the SF-C&G bond, but through all major blocs. The fallout from a war like that could lead to some really bad blood that would last for a long time to come.
    [/quote]
    I can't see such a war being anything other than a beatdown of Polaris. NpO lost a lot of political capital when it started the most recent war. I just don't see any of its allies who are also tied to SF sticking their neck out of NpO in this situation.

  8. [quote name='Lord Brendan' date='15 July 2010 - 09:10 AM' timestamp='1279203010' post='2372814']
    Which brings me to the point, why is LEO always left out of our New Hegemony in these conspiracy theories? They make up almost a quarter of our strength.
    [/quote]
    They aren't nearly obnoxious enough. When people think of the new power structure, the first alliance that come to mind are the ones that make the most noise.

  9. [quote name='Sir Paul' date='10 July 2010 - 01:02 PM' timestamp='1278784955' post='2365968']
    Actually, this is a bit of a compliment to Xiphosis. He now joins the company of some fine CN players who have also been cyber-stalked.
    [/quote]
    I was thinking along the same lines myself.

    Anyway, I don't really know you but you've always seemed like a pretty good guy Vasuda. I can't imagine what your reasoning was for this d-baggery.

  10. Played the game under a different name in the Initiative days. Was a soldier for the MDC (lol inorite) and to be truthful I loved every blissfully ignorant minute of it. Always felt like an outsider when it came to TI politics, which is probably pretty fitting actually. But you know what? It was my first alliance and I refuse to remember it any way but fondly.

  11. [quote name='Believland' date='22 June 2010 - 11:10 PM' timestamp='1277266215' post='2347267']
    Were you in Terra Cotta?

    None the less, congrats on your move to Maroon. Better watch out for Wickedj though, he loves aliens and is a constant observer of the sky
    [/quote]
    I believe you are thinking of the alliance by the name of Rome.

    Good luck FSM. Hope maroon treats you well!

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