Northrend
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Don't tell them what they should do, friend.
We all know well enough that what should be done was never what Communism was about and today is no different.
In the interests of hope, I would rather think more optimistically. They just might surprise me one day.
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I have my own ideas on it certainly, i just want to hear your take on it? please indulge me
You should be taking a stand against any forms of oppression, and imperialism. That's one aspect of it at least.
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And what exactly is the commies natural role within the CN community?
If I really have to answer that, it's apparent that you don't know.
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Yep, full of inaccuracies, mis-quotes, fabrication, do you happen to work for a tabloid newspaper Schattenmann? If i was you i'd send in a CV.
How can screens be misquoted?
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And by better future, you mean a future in which you and your allies are in power and Pacifica and Her allies are not. Nothing more. Drop all the revolutionary bull and just state what it is you really want. Power.
Yes, yes, I want the ebil NPO to die and for us to reap all the rewards. Get over yourself. Do you know what I want? I want Moo gone and a new emperor who understands the meaning of diplomacy, tact and respect. A person who will give you and your cohorts what they deserve: a traitor's death. You and you "allies" are a traitor to what Pacifica was and you deserve nothing less. That is what I want.
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It is unfortunate that they still exist, I must agree.
However, how can I respect Vox Populi if they are more Communist than the self-proclaimed Marxists of the world? For the aforementioned reason I will move on to what is more pertinent to the announcement: I hope that this month will be your last.
Edit: what is this NoR?
I fail to see how you get that conclusion...
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there are no expectations i just understand how it works lol
Yes, I am sure you do. Run along now.
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I agree. Vox Populi have been in cahoots with the Communists from day one.it's true they might as well call themselves marx populi tbqh
I highly doubt this. Most of the "Communists" in CN are nothing of the sort we want to be in "cahoots" with. Many of them are highly outspoken with their ODN friends against us. It's unfortunate really, that they are not fulfilling their natural role in this community.
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the NPO is the dominant power on planet bob no only through their own strength but that of thier allies we have to learn to deal with that.....might not like it but its a fact.
This is why you fail. Because you have no will left to fight. That is fine for you, but not for those who still believe in a better future.
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You can be non-peaceful and not hellbent beyond logic. The catch is that so few folks realize that and know how to do it properly.
Boris, why are you ignoring my posts? Is it because you know that your "logic" is utterly incomplete and that in fact, we do not hate the NPO and are not "hellbent" upon it's destruction?
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But you have the right to talk down to him? Hypocracy thy name is you.
We reserve the right to point out the fact that his actions show that while he was trash talking the New Pacific Order, he was merely placating us so that later he could display his groveling before the NPO, as he is currently doing now.
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I do hope you are enjoying your newfound sense of superiority, Cheyenne. Weren't you the fellow that was just a week ago trashing the NPO? Now that's what I call accepting your mistakes and moving on. You have no right to talk down to any of Vox. End of discussion.
I tend to agree. I find your lack of political consistency to be quite amusing. How quickly you are to disrespect your former friends. It seems we were right to let you go. You cannot be trusted.
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"We hate NPO for changing alliances with their Viceroys and running the game. So instead, we want to run the game and change NPO to how we want them to be."
Where did you get that from? I'd like to see some source on that, or is it just you being sarcastic? Even then, this does not mean we hate the NPO and seek their destruction. One can enjoy the base membership in an alliance but hate what the leadership has turned the alliance into.
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Disclaimer: Nations on ZI lists are welcome to play, but will be ineligible to win the prize.
So if I win, does that mean nobody wins?
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I would say the "state of war" part makes them less significant. Anyone can stay in an alliance when they don't really have any other options.
I had options. I could have re rolled, but I chose not to. There are always options.
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I'll give another example, I am enjoying this discussion.
From the section "ideals of vox" I have taken several words that can easily be seen as ideals.
Sorry for ripping the text, if it is taken out of context please rectify me.
* freedom of expression of those who join our cause.
* give voices to those who otherwise have none.
* A world without social conventions and restrictions on the intellectual and political dialogue of the public.
From what I could pull from the ideals section in the OP it seems to be mainly about communication.
I take it there are other goals aswell? anti-techraid stances? against bandwagoning? etc?
If that is the case let me get another example of an alliance I personally see working towards that goal aswell.
I personally see the grëmlins or the MHA as very respectable alliances, the grëmlins have published the codex and have left the Continuum.
As I have said before I am not an expert nor do I can I judge for the entire cyberverse which alliances are "just" and which are "unjust"
But these alliances are working in their own way towards similiar ideals in a different way.
Now we are back at the Chinese finger trap, are alliances, nations and forum personalities that work in a different way towards those ideals.
Will these alliances not be far more effective in the long run?
I think the last point will show the difference between the alliances you've mentioned and us. Generally, MHA and Gramlins don't have freedom, tolerance, and open mindedness on the scale that Vox Populi does simply because they cannot afford to have such in their position. They still have to toe the line with Pacifica and failure to do so will result in, you guessed it, subjugation of their nations. You can state how you think that these alliances are working towards being honorable, and however true that may be, they are still seen as part and parcel of a system we are trying to change. They still have to pander to the NPO, as does every other major alliance. We seek to remove the pandering to begin with, and make the NPO cooperate with the rest of the world as opposed to forcing it to do their bidding.
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FFS go home. You have no idea how much the world loathes you.
You apply one metric to Pacifica in hopes that if you suck up enough you'll go right through their anal region and into the alliance. Vlad is better at debating this than you are. Please leave it to him.
Oh well. At least Ephie's role has been filled.
For this comment, you are forgiven in my eyes. Epic win.
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Oh not at all, for neither that nor their idea are actually new and novel. If they were, they might work. So long as they base their existence off of hating the current system, they'll never achieve anything.
Do you even bother to read before you post? I thought I had informed you to the contrary about this hate business.
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Simply doing something is not enough. Doing something out of hatred of another group in CN rarely ends particularly well. Alliances hell bent on going after others typically have crap growth and poor organization. If people really want to bring about any 'change', the only real way to do that is to make their own change for their own benefit, rather than for someone else's detriment.
I for one do not "hate" the New Pacific Order. I admire a lot of things they can do for people. they are immensely organized and have a great, talented player community. However, it is unfortunate that a select few have ruined that experience for many others, by acting generally uncouth, rude, crass and disrespectful to nearly any and all of their opponents and fellow players that disagree with them. They seem to think that because they are top dog, they can do as they please. This is most unfortunate, as if they acted with some decency, and respect, they might find that their power would increase, as well as their image outside their own bloc.
Nobody is seeking the destruction of the NPO. We merely wish for it to be reformed into a more pleasant, respectful and credible organization, without the totalitarian trappings of ambitious and power hungry individuals.
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I'm not going to debate who won or lost that war, I don't know enough to judge all the circumstances.
This is about the smartest thing I've seen you post yet silva. Please, continue.
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Tell me that is a joke, and that you purposely did that. Otherwise that's just damn funny.
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To you these folks may be a "breath of fresh air", but all I smell is the stink of old ideas best left locked away in the corner of an attic due to their lack of any real value.
What air have you been breathing? It smells from over here like the stench of stifling oppression and lack of respect. A change of air must be in order then. I for one think that the smell of freedom and tolerance is something similar to the scent of a freshly mowed lawn if I do say so myself.
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