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  1. Its easy. Takes a bit of work but it requires stopping being part of the problem.

    Stop the stranglehold on CN politics.

    Stop the cough *intelligence gathering* from soverign alliances that are used to massage/fabricate/spin the CB's used for pre-emption.

    Allow an opponent to actually freaking launch an attack - then squash them....hey its worth trying ONCE at least.

    Fight a war as an alliance for once! not a block - again it might be worth trying at least ONCE.

    Imagine the REAL pride that could be developed internally for an alliance that actually faced a war and stood on its own.

    Return to the original propaganda that a single nation poses no threat to a powerfull alliances. Clearly that was BS given the PZI world we live in now pushed down by blocks of tens of thousands of drones.

    Stop the PZI copout and DEAL with the problems you create. If you cant deal with them then stop creating the problem in the first place.

    If you as a member find yourself in an alliance or block that cant move away from these core problems - then you need to move away from that block or alliance, or just shrug and say *whatever* its safer staying here and continue dangling from the strings coming down from the ceiling.

    Ok so we do all of those things, and get curbstomped by someone who doesn't feel like it and then replace us, what then?

  2. I love the paradigm of thinking that answer comes from on so many levels!

    When you step back and look at all those alliances that were ever allowed to launch attacks on NPO...oh wait.....

    Notice how you used the word invade when describing all the alliances that needed to be squashed pre-emtively due to a colorful PR justification of "they will attack us long term"?

    There are plenty of other options in the toolbox, only if people, GASP, are EVER WILLING to put to TEST the claims they like to make on being the superior group.

    If your alliance is the top dog, if your block is the master.....why not let it stand on its own and face a force for the first time in recent CN history that is allowed to actually attack you. Just calling the reality for what it is......put down the pre-emption paradigm and watch a new game evolve.

    Dont worry - I'm under no allusions - I know the answer why, as most of us do....the house of cards would all come down if such a test was ever allowed to materialize. :P

    just a thought.

    Dont get me wrong....I hope the "masters" do keep the PZI crap going - it has slowly been fueling the best undercurrent in the CN world that opens the eyes to many on what really needs to change around here.

    We all now how many steps ahead this game needs to be played....and its time people stop sitting back letting a subset of Planet Bob dictate which direction it goes.

    End the silenece! There are hundreds of people active on this board that just need to say enough and start speaking what they want without fear of retribution.

    You cant silence a movement if enough speak.

    Propose an alternative then. If there are so many tools in the toolbox better than PZI for dealing with enemies that don't want to deal with you, what are they?

  3. You know, if you're really that worried about attacking a red nation by mistake, you could always just, you know, not tech raid. God forbid.

    Here here! :awesome:

    That 15 million was in fact given with the expectation of reciprocation then, and not as a gift?

    It was my understanding that they took exception to them planning on using that money to attack their closest allies.

  4. No it doesn't. You might not believe it, but there was a time when PZI was unheard off. Wars were fought and nations were destroyed, but people went on with their lives, without the need to force anyone to quit playing or to ban whole communities from existence.

    I myself like many other individuals don't have the power to change the current practice of PZI, but i can do my part by refusing to join or be allied in any form to an alliance that supports PZI.

    The thing about PZI is that it is the only way to prevent an alliance from attacking you long-term.

    The world is simply not built in such a way that you can invade an alliance, defeat them decisively and force them to accept terms in which they leave you alone in the future, or accept any terms at all for that matter. You can't occupy nations, you can't build a giant wall, you can't do a lot of things.

    The only thing in the toolbox for preventing a nation or an alliance from attacking you is basically to never allow them to grow.

    If NPO could have just forced FAN or Vox Populi or whomever to specific peace terms through military victory, PZI or EZI would be unnecessary.

    The same thing though means that even if they defeat us, or turn our allies against us, or otherwise knock us down, we have no need to accept that state of affairs. We can just decide to fight on forever, and if they will not PZI us, what's stopping us from a separate peace with the foes that just wanted to knock us down a peg, and then going after those who orchestrated our demise?

    We would no longer be the #1 alliance, we might even lose our sanction, but alliances have bounced back from worse. We could even reclaim our #1 spot eventually.

    Unless they PZI us, in which case there would be no bouncing back.

  5. Not that I am a member of the them, or even have anything to do with them at this point, but I really doubt they have any reason to PZI you. Honestly, you aren't that important. Frankly, if they did succeed somehow, major targets would be Moo, Dilber, and several of the major IOs, though I doubt they would PZI them. If they did I can say I would protest. I absolutely despise the practice.

    I guess I'll just have to find out.

    Considering the way Sponge and the rest talk of us, we of the rank and file, I doubt we'll be treated any differently than leadership.

  6. ...And then I got to Vox Populi. And some began to say the threats, or talk about the threats that were out. What would happen to me from some of our sick Pacifican brothers? Well, I don't know what will happen now. We've got some difficult days ahead. But it doesn't matter with me now. Because I've been to the mountaintop. And I don't mind. Like anybody, I would like to have a prosperous nation. Prosperity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do Admin's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the promised land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land. So I'm happy, tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Admin.

    I'd like to think your philosophical stance will remain the same if the situation were reversed, but I have no doubt that I am on your PZI and EZI lists should your revolution succeed.

    How could your revolution succeed without PZI and EZI?

    Let's say you turn the whole world against NPO and we are well and truly rolled, what prevents us from rising again once the war is over and the terms, no matter how harsh, have been served?

    Your plan depends on PZI.

  7. Hey, I just wanted to point something out.

    When I was in NPO, there were at least two membership applications in which I said that the applicant "had style." They were zig and Boss Hogg. Zig posted this thread, and Boss Hogg ended up being a FAN scam artist and TWiP star.

    Needless to say, I'm not saying anyone has style in any NSO applications.

    Heh I remember that!

  8. Hello Mr. Tough guy, how are you I am fine. Perhaps if you weren't backed by the largest alliance in the game your words would mean something. I am not sure if you are in my range or not but if you are please feel free to click this link for a 1 versus 1 no holds barred duel so you can put your money where your mouth is, or you could kindly stop your posturing as no one really cares about the empty words coming from your fool mouth. (I apologize in advance if my use of fool as an adjective confuses you as I know you have issues with whether or not adjectives are words.)

    No can do I'm afraid, authorized and assigned targets only.

  9. ChairmanHal, your analysis is spot on.

    NPO isn't for everyone, but too many people just want to stay for the benefits of NPO and hate the culture and the duties. They just want to be part of the #1 alliance.

    Personally I wish the people who hate being in the NPO would just leave.

    I'm just a foot-soldier though, leadership knows better than I what's best for the alliance.

  10. Yes it seems pretty likely that out of the 60 or so nations in NPO within 1,000 NS of you up or down you'll get singled out, beaten down, and then, with nobody to help you but the biggest alliance in the game behind you, we'll see who's really afraid, who really has the guts to stand and fight.

    Well, to be honest I've done a lot more than anyone else in my NS for them to hate me.

    Plus, I've got superfuntimes Jarheads down there too.

  11. You're diminishing the fact that they silence the majority of their members if they happen to disagree with the general status quo or an NPO policy publicly. You're dimishing the fact that NPO's lower tier of meatshields sent out carelessly to attack and be attacked in such wars as the Jarheads war, without the proper funding, experience, or organization. You're dimishing the fact that there aren't a whole lot out there that I can think of that JUST want to build their nation in peace. And hell, if you do, join a neutral and intelligent alliance, join GPA or TDO. But as it stands there might be some people that join just to build a nation. However IMO those people slowly but surely become more and more involved in the way NPO functions and politics as a whole.

    That's MY two cents.

    The endless low-intensity warfare is our war academy graduate degree program. :jihad:

    You're the involuntary professors.

  12. Yeah...the guy who's under the protection of the largest alliance in the game totally has the right to call the guy gettting his nation pummeled for standing up for what he believes in a coward. I totally see the logic there.

    There's a FAN with a manhattan project near my NS that will probably nuke me down to Electron Sponge's level in a couple weeks for revenge and lulz, we'll settle things like men then. :jihad:

    We'll see who the coward is then.

  13. Comrade, please seek out Moo, give him my warm, personal regards, then inform him that you placed me in the position on agreeing with Electron Sponge in a thread.

    Beforehand, you should be aware that I'd rather eat aluminum cans than agree with Sponge on anything.

    Bring knee pads.

    I shall do precisely that, good sir.

    If you'd prefer the cans, would you like your aluminum cans with a tasty Hegemonist burger, or the MegaAros-babies cobb salad?

    You should be able to find our top secret brunch specials in The Tattler!

  14. Jesus Christ do I have to hit you over the head with the online dictionaries and ruin this whole discussion? Hegemonist!! :P

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hegemonist

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hegemonist

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hegemonist

    http://www.yourdictionary.com/hegemonist

    Do yourself a favor next time - do a Google search and educate yourself before you open up your big yap and embarrass yourself.

    Indeed it's not a word, it's an adjective, you've fallen into my trap.

    Do continue proving my point.

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