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[quote name='Rocky Horror' date='04 March 2010 - 01:58 PM' timestamp='1267729314' post='2213854']
300k is a lot, but I don't think it's "wrong", and I don't think it's any reason to keep fighting. That's helping no one.
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And paying the reps helps who exactly? -
We did not ask for a viceroy
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[quote name='SynthFG' date='01 March 2010 - 10:34 AM' timestamp='1267457882' post='2209943']
Bob
The interpretation of the Codex is for Gre gov you know that, and 2 separate issues the war with IRON where we attacked in defence of MK and the War with DAWN in which we were attacked, what we are asking for in the first round of negotiations on peace is up to us.
As for TOP, they through there gov have been looking for an excuse to hit CnG in general and MK in particular for the past few months, every little crisis they have pressured, cajouled and frankly bullied those they had ties to in an effort to get the ball rolling, the last time they tried it it cost them their ties to FOK and it tore Cit apart. They were warned repeatedly that they were driving on a course to self distruction yet they plunged in anyway. Had TOP won this fight I've no doubt that they wouldn't be offering white peace, and I don't see that they or IRON as the key instigators of this most destructive of wars should get away scott free or even lightly
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I believe certain actions in the Karma war ended effectively ended Cit -
No more Sanction
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Its 22, of course theres a fair chance it increased since then
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[quote name='Trinite' date='26 February 2010 - 06:20 PM' timestamp='1267226628' post='2205470']
Shockingly, TOP is really active, have great tech ratios, know how to play, and have huge warchests :-o. OMFG impressed me both in their prowess and demeanor.
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I can't wait to see OMFG in a relatively even war (So far they've had to fight TOP and Sparta...) -
Fun fact:
20,567,015 Total Miles Of Land
The average nation has no use of a navy -
[quote name='Sir Keshav IV' date='24 February 2010 - 08:40 AM' timestamp='1267019029' post='2201355']
We aren't even sure on what we want to offer. There are 22 alliances fighting TOP and every alliance needs to be taken into account before we can offer TOP peace terms.
And TOP's offer has always been white peace or nothing so far.
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TOP's been awaiting a counter offer for almost a week now, and if you read the Grand Chancellor's statement its quite clear its not white peace or nothing -
[quote name='erikz' date='23 February 2010 - 04:34 PM' timestamp='1266960853' post='2199644']
This is one of the saddest days, maybe even the saddest during the 2,5 years I've been playing CN. This decision was very hard on us TOP, I hope you can understand our position in this cl#%!^%$#&ck of a war.
I would also want to ask everyone to keep it civil in here. There is no ill will from FOK towards TOP. We just did what we had to do.
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You didn't have to do this -
[quote name='kriekfreak' date='23 February 2010 - 04:03 PM' timestamp='1266959037' post='2199559']
This was hard for FOK. People whining and complaining (lol @ "WE GAVE YOU MONEY TO BE OUR LAPDOGS") aren't helping your cause at all, quite the opposite.
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I believe it was more of we helped Fok, and now we are getting kicked by Fok while we are down then, we're angry with Fok for not being on our side -
[quote name='Crazy Carrot' date='23 February 2010 - 03:19 PM' timestamp='1266956364' post='2199446']
...and the reason we are now forced to use it. The victim complex doesn't suit you.
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I don't believe anyone if forcing you to use anything, You've made your choices and nothing will change that -
[quote name='Crazy Carrot' date='23 February 2010 - 03:17 PM' timestamp='1266956224' post='2199439']
You shackled yourselves to that chair, so no need to play the victim here. It's a bad situation for all involved, no need to make it any worse.
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We also gave you the knife, does that justify you using it -
[quote name='MikeTheFirst' date='23 February 2010 - 03:13 PM' timestamp='1266955987' post='2199426']
No, but it also doesn't mean you get a Get Out Of Jail Free card.
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It should at least get a remain free from being shivved from behind while handcuffed and leg shackled to an electric chair
why not seek peace then, instead of compounding the problem
You attack TOP when TOP hasn't even been allowed to see peace terms
I expect you'd like reps as well? (thing is we already sent them... 2 years ago ) -
[quote name='MikeTheFirst' date='23 February 2010 - 03:07 PM' timestamp='1266955643' post='2199412']
Hmm...you [i]do[/i] know you declared pre-emptively on a FOK ally, right? And that you send out aid to a direct opponent of FOK. How friendly is that?
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I guess that cancels out everything TOP did for Fok? -
Loyalty is a virtue some don't have
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[quote name='Vladimir' date='22 February 2010 - 12:05 AM' timestamp='1266815107' post='2196323']
Indeed. But nations don't have an infinite supply of nuclear weapons, which is why I noted the length of time that has passed. You can only buy a maximum of 2 (if you have a WRC) nukes a day, and if any of your targets have an SDI you're lucky to hit even that many.
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remember FAN? (don't mean that in a bad way, just that if you get a group of people who are dedicated enough, they can cause trouble) -
[quote name='My Name Is Romance' date='21 February 2010 - 06:49 PM' timestamp='1266796171' post='2195617']
So they're actively avoiding sanction?
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we used to try to do that (then vox came) -
[quote name='Hyperion321' date='19 February 2010 - 02:06 PM' timestamp='1266606360' post='2192297']
did they know before or after the cards were dealt? (there's a point to that question)
If they knew before the strike, does that mean that Gov consulted with membership before they decided whether or not to pre-emptively strike C&G. And, if they did (which would suggest that the majority of TOPpers voted for war), how can one claim that C&G was the threat in this case when your [i]entire alliance[/i](provided a yes answer to the previous questions) wished for war? And when I say wished for war, I mean not in the context of strategical maneuvering for this conflict, I mean as an aggressive action that C&G "brought on themselves" for past grievances (said Crymson).
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in a case of opsec- the government is not expected or desired to release a target prior to the declaration. That is not to say the alliance didn't support the purpose of the war (aiding IRON/NpO-yes really) but the alliance as a whole did not have knowledge of the methodology for war entry -
[quote name='Hyperion321' date='19 February 2010 - 12:29 PM' timestamp='1266600586' post='2192197']
Considering that the effects of Crym's actions hurt our allies and caused the entire world to go to war I would say it is indeed [i]everyone's[/i] concern.
Of course I wouldn't want that to be mistaken for Sparta interfering in TOP's internal investigations, but Crym abusing his power (in my opinion) is as much as issue for us as it is for TOP given the results of the events.
I do have one question though if it is as all possible to answer...does your membership even know what went down?
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Yes, Government transparency is extremely important to TOP, almost every winning platform in someway includes a way to increase the transparency of our government for the GA -
[quote name='pigsticker' date='19 February 2010 - 12:23 PM' timestamp='1266600183' post='2192189']
just a query, knowing crymsom's massive dislike for C&G, will he ever be put into a position again where he could act out his innermost dislikes, bearing mind that his actions could always have the suspicion that it's motivated by his dislikes.
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should he decide to run again, the TOP GA will decide this fact
Step off Crymson, afaik he'll not be running for government again and the decisions prior to this war have eaten away at him quite a bit
We voted for him, he did what he thought was right, as an alliance we face the consequences, you'll be hard pressed to find someone within TOP who is angry with Crymson, maybe disappointed with the situation we find ourselves in but that is not Crymson's fault it is all of ours -
Join TOP, we have nothing to do with this silly war
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To be honest I think a large part of the no surrender attitude in TOP stems from the fact that we know we are hitting back as well as the precedent of terms set forth by these alliances.
If you're going to be hit either way, you might as well hit back and hope it hurts. -
I've been using sharkspace and liked it quite a bit of late
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=854983
is a pretty solid deal from what I've seen so far -
[quote name='Arcturus Jefferson' date='11 February 2010 - 10:02 PM' timestamp='1265943720' post='2176194']
If you meant "did we act on it", then no. However, discussions within Citadel.gov during, say, the GPA beatdown were mostly the FCC and Gramlins people lambasting the NPO and donning tinfoil hats while Saber and Reyne tried to make it sound like the NPO was the victim and it was right and just for TOP to assist their best ally. The bloc dynamics were really $%&@ed up until enough of the fire eaters had been bled out of the FCC in disgust (both at Citadel politics and FCC internal politics, which sort of fed each other).
So no, we didn't commit to overthrowing the NPO (though for most of us Citadel was formed to ward off threats from TOP's best ally). But a some of us were as angry and concerned about it as the people who came together to beat the crap out of the NPO in the K War. A fortuitous conclusion that is being undermined by this current war.
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TOP's best ally throughout the era of the real Citadel (probably could say Citadel ended with Karma war) was Gremlins, and entering the Karma war was more of declaration of our unity with Gremlins than anything. (despite GRE declaring on a close mdp ally)
A Question From The Geek Squad
in Open World RP
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it seems like a nice gesture, but this community has already shown such things don't work out, and it will end in some type of a "hacking"/"spying" drama fest, no matter what the hosts do
I guess it would give more CB's...