Partisan
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yup, that was quite a pathetic attempt
hmm-mm
almost as bad as your attempts at saving face by pissing at others :)
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oh my bad then. guess I shouldve known better than to think you'd do a good job in gov after seeing how it ended the first time.
How pathetic.
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Well that's their loss then :P
The only one I can think off I made leave would be partisan, cause I wanted to promote him. Must have scared him. But seeing as he ran off without informing anyone during the days we were without forums.. who knows what excuse he had.
Are you sure you want to call me out DDL? You may be best off channeling your frustration at being unable to retain members into something more productive and something that has less risk of backfiring. I'll say this on the matter though: My reasons are my own but government was most certainly informed of my departure. Relevant government, at least.
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Brilliant political move!
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Let the world tremble
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Turin, please don't evoke that in the ASR Please.
Very well, we shall make ours depart for now. But remember... one day, when you no longer expect it. When you have forgotten about this episode and you are going your merry way. That, is when you will be vulnerable. And that is when it will happen.
We will be back. :ph34r:
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Luckily you are sending us tech and dongs to buy more tech with!
We're charitable like that!
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You seem more like a participant in that verbal beating Rey just handed you.
Hmm yes, i'm not sure if i'll ever get over the sheer psychological impact of this verbal beatdown. It's obvious that my entire self esteem has been crumbled to dust by the thunderous impact of a set of "no u ur alliance suckxs" posts.
Wish me luck while I retreat to recover from my defeat.
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So you wanna build some tech? That's good man. That's real good.
We definetly do want to build some. Would you like to join us in our endeavor to create a decent tech ratio? You seem like you could use it as much as us :ehm:
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Well your actions are currently bitching and moaning about the quality of discourse while residing in one of the least quality alliances around.
I actually requested for you to continue on posting as it provided me - and still does - with great entertainment. My post was a mere observation from a bystander. Take it as you wish :)
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Alliance Name:Atlas
Nation name: Partisan Holland
Thanks for typing up my affiliation for those who don't know. Your help in educating the masses on what alliance I inhabit is much appreciated. Could you hand them my nation link, NS and a summary on my history as well? Thanks mate.
Base your judgement on a man's actions, not his affiliations. -
To summarize this entire episode: Rey and tywin are acting like a bunch of freshman high school girls, trying to bolster their low self-esteem by clawing at eachother. They're actions are showing a complete lack of substance and they are unable to recognize the fact that their desperate cries for attention are laughed at by the world at large.
Please guys, do continue. I enjoy this show. Better than the average teen movie.
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New terrible alliance gets formed, promptly wrecks the sanction race thread.
Thanks a lot, Kevanovia.
It's okay, we're just trying to equalize the posting level of the sanction race with the average posting level of any thread in the alliance announcements forum.
You may thank us later for bringing stability to the world. :smug:
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Looking forward to seeing what the future holds!
Also, thanks MI6, for your love. :smug:
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I'm sorry that things did not work out for you rayan. If you ever need help or advice, you still know where to find me.
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This was a long thoughtful response that made things clear. Wrong thread?
Sit down youngster, and let me tell you about an ancient time, years and years away, where all responses were thoughtful.
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So, I'm slightly confused. Given that Fox Fire clearly isn't all there... Did PNU or DS attack at any point -after- a peace was established,or did PNU or DS attack before initial peace was made? If a member of either attacked AFTER peace was made, were they under official orders to do so, or just being idiots?
No problem, i'll try to clarify:
This is what happened on the day of negotiations in chronological order:
7:29 AM, September 19: DS member attacks PNU
8:20 AM, September 19: Peace is agreed upon and announced on TIO's forums (and, I assume, relayed internally by DS/PNU
12:48 AM, September 20: PNU resumes hostilities
PNU's resumation of hostilities was based on the belief that the attacks were conducted *after* peace was achieved and was a collective action approved by PNU government. TIO was not consulted regarding the move.
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Hello cyberworld. Let's break it down a *little*
First of all, we'll establish that there is a history to the protectorate. This was not the first incident where PNU made mistakes and TIO felt wary. TIO's reactions to the current situation and the subsequent cancellation are the result of an accumulation of events over a larger time span. Now let's look into the situation:
Once an AA DoW'd my protectorate with multiple nations with the war reason "roguery" then I'd probably have rolled them for a week at least before letting them off. Not sure why that approach wasn't taken by TIO instead of 12 million in reps, which is basically nothing these days.
I will have to admit that I was not around for the first peace talks. However; I see various valid reasons why TIO may have reacted in the way they did. First of all; both DS and PNU consist of and are led by nation leaders who are relatively new to this world. both entities also show, despite their mistakes, great enthusiasm for the world. Given the dwindling population of this world, should we really destroy that enthusiasm? Should we roll a small grouping of new players who are enjoying this world and are learning by trial and error; just to make a point? And what point would we be making? Don't mess with us or our protectorate? Let's be honest here; rolling a 3-man alliance won't establish that.
Instead, it seems to me like our government opted to go for diplomacy, immediately introducing PNU to the concept, thus teaching them another facet of running an alliance. I see no wrong in that.
Lastly, you say that 12 mil is nothing right now. For small nations/alliances it may still be a significant amount. Let's keep in mind that the NS of nations initially affected laid around the 10k NS. Damages of one or a couple of days will not even reach 3 mil each. 12 mil was a fair amount. Again though; I was not there for that negotiation or decision. Though I think I see the reasoning behind the course of action taken, I can only speculate on this question.
I liked the part where PNU was recently attacked and kept at war for a few days and TIO responded by...canceling their protectorate.
That's classic, guys. (And yes, I know PNU is terrible, but still)There's a bit more to it than that. PNU was raided by an alliance called Doom Squad, PNU counter attacked without telling TIO, and TIO got pissed.
I'm not trying to excuse TIO's actions, in my opinion their actions are rather "low". Slightly understandable, but nonetheless bad.
TIO got pissed because (from what I have gathered), incidents like this are not alien. They have happened before and concern has been raised before by TIO. Given that PNU responded militarily on its own, that took away options for courses of actions for TIO. Therefore, diplomacy was used to negotiate reps. The negotiations were a success and 12 mil was agreed upon. When PNU then re-declared on evidence that later proved to be false (I'll get to that in a second), again without consulting TIO, that was our government's final straw, I suppose. We again negotiated peace - white peace this time, and cancelled the protectorate.May I ask what is "low" about this course of action? I'm curious.This is curious to me. Was there an established protocol that PNU must approach TIO for help whenever raided? Did TIO sort out this incident first before canceling?
I was personally assigned to sort the incident when PNU resumed hostilities. While the protectorate ended up being cancelled; a statisfactory conclusion was brought to the war. Even when taking into account that DS was the initial aggressor, attacking for no reason whatsoever, we still could not overlook PNU's resumation of events based on miscalculated timelines. Therefore all parties agreed that the best way to end this was to simply call it even.
As for the established protocol; no, the treaty does not dictate that PNU must approach TIO for help. It is however an established percedent as well as a common courtesy to do so; especially if you are expected your protectors help should it escalate. As mentioned above; this was not the first time and therefore, our request regarding information streams had already been on the table.
Lastly, the timeline: PNU resumed hostilities because they believed attacks had been continued by DS after peace was agreed upon. Had this been correct, TIO, though still somewhat wary of the lack of communication, would have supported PNU in its re-declaration be it militarily, financially or diplomatically.
Before entering the latest round of peace negotiations, Ryan and I sat down and delved through timelines, screen shots, logs etc.
We quickly concluded that the initial peace talks were concluded at 8:20 pm (iirc). The attacks that led to escalation were carried out at 7:20 pm. One hour before. (Note: I might have my am and pm mixed up, I can look this up later if need be. In either case, there was a one hour timespan in between).
Given that the attacks were carried out before peace was agreed, PNU's resumation was based on a misconception. While there was no malice involved, and the situation got solved, it could have easily been avoided had PNU contacted TIO before engaging in hostilities.
I hope this clarifies the situation a bit. I will be around to answer further questions here and on IRC.
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Congratulations, fine gentlemen, you have made me laugh, for to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of military prowess. To subdue your enemy without fighting, is the acme of military prowess.
Reminds me of GGA, except this is a classier bunch.
You had a very good run, Kingdom.
(Thanks Goldiebabe.)
Indeed, we share many a similarity; MK and GGA. For that reason we reached out to them out of respect for the mortal acts that have bound us together.
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You're hilarious Dre4m.
I hope this works out for you LoSS.He does look quite silly when he's prancing around IRC. I concur... Or was there any other point you were trying to make?
This treaty gives me mixed feelings. On one hand, there's an ally of us tieing itself to a decent alliance. On the other hand, there's Moustaffa...
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As the world enters what has been prophesized by some as "its final stage", People across the globe have gathered in memory of an alliance that has carved its way into the memories of the universe. They stand together to honour the passing of a friend, an ally, an adversary and an enemy. Regardless of affiliation, the citizens of bob are here to pay respect to a history overflowing with bloodshed and political intrigue. In unison they mourn and put to rest the remainders of a once-vibrant community.
Putting a chapter to rest and saying goodbye can be heartbreaking. Fading away into the night is often one's toughest challenge and greatest achievement. It often pains to see a fellow man's struggle for closure. The Grand Global Alliance has watched from above as death creeped in between the mushroom forests, as it tore its way into the very belly of the kingdom. For every second of agony suffered by the fallen shrooms, the GGA has shed a tear. We feel their pain, for we have been there. We, and many others, felt the same glory, witnessed the same fall and experienced the same struggle. The Mushrooms have now embarked on a path that has been walked by so many legends before them. It is the path to the ultimate destination.My dear kingdom; now that you have finally made peace with the inevitable and are ready to embrace the end with your head held high, we feel it is time for us to descend down from Admin's hunting grounds one last time to salute you as you begin your defiant march towards Admin's judgement. Forever connected by our shared fate, the Grand Global Alliance stands with you in spirit as you transcend your physical form, much like we once did.
My sweet mushroom prince, we extend our hand to you. It is time for you to enter the hallowed halls of the dead and join the sacred ranks of "Those who simply did not make it". The GGA welcomes you, for you are one of us.
As bringer of the GGA's final salute and in honour of the fallen Mushroom Kingdom, the nation of Partisan Holland will fly the GGA flag and AA for 7 days.
Fortuna Fortes Juvat
Fortune Favors the Brave
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My baby, It's born!I never would have expected this.Seriously, I'm glad to see you guys jump in bed at last. It's a good pairing.
You were lucky enough to get constant updates :P
Thanks nonetheless!
I miss you honey.
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On the other hand, if the leader happens to be a stinky Dutch, just roll 'em all. CMs are real valuable.
You are great magic :DAnd here I thought we had something special...
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The HILARIOUS part though, is the complete ignoring, by everyone in the thread, of the 90 ton pink elephant in the room. The game would be so much more fun if it was acknowledged.
I would just like to see one person...just one... man up and point out the pink elephant. You wanna do something refreshing? Try being honest about your machinations and the reasons behind them. Everyone wants to do something new, or so they say. Yet here we are.. same old, same old.
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I'll allow you to win this time, IRON :smug: