John Edward

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I sure people are getting annoyed at our back and forth so i'll end with this. Every RL battle looked only at the strategies of the battle, not of the rulers or nation, and btw the Japanese intended to declare war but the American official got busy. The Cold hard facts are the NPO will never go away. As you can see after more than 8 weeks of war we still are sanctioned. Going through your CN career flat out hating the NPO and never even listening to arguments from the NPO on anything will get you ignored quick, and will not have the respect many, on either side.

How are we running from the other 17 alliances (Athens, Viridian Entente, R&R, The International, MOON, Orion, Deck of International Card Experts, FOK, IPA, Sparta, UCR, =LOST=, Vanguard, OV, Avalanche)? It is NPO vs KARMA (KARMA here is meant to reflect the 18 alliances at War with NPO). We are getting attacked and fighting back against all of the alliances. We just know how to use our offensive slots. You dare talk about Honor? Are you telling me that the way war has been waged for centuries is dishonorable? You say it is dishonorable for the Persians to go through that pass and surround the Spartan's? Are you telling me it was dishonorable for the Nazi's to blitzkreig against the Ardennes of Belgium? Are you telling me that it was dishonorable for the US led forces in the Persian Gulf War to out flank the Iraqi units through the desert? Are you telling me that it was dishonorable for the US in WWII to go after only one Japanese island at a time rather than attack them all? Are you saying it was dishonorable for the Allies to invade only at Normandy rather than along the whole French Coast? Are you saying that it was dishonorable for the Japanese to launch the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, which effectively crippled the US Pacific fleet minus the carriers (which the Japanese though would be there)? If anything, you suggest us doing something like the Tet Offensive, with which we attack all alliances evenly. You, sir, are just one more example of KARMA's wonderful military.

That statement right there is why i don't listen to anything you post. you look at immediate results instead of the long term trend. You make it sound that we lose 100k consistently, which anyone who can read a graph would know isn't true. Previous to the one time drop of 100k last day, it took a week and a half to drop 100k NS. Now if you look at RoK in the was week and a half + day they have lost 580K NS, including 100k in the past day, with only NPO at war with them (if i went over KARMA's own wiki of events correctly). Now with VE only fighting NPO, and ingoring the past two days for NS, that pas week and a half VE fell 150K NS. Both VE and RoK have lost members as well. As you can see the NPO, being attacked by 12 alliances (as i have been told) still is managign to do more damage to two alliances than is being done to itself. If you are using that sentence to justify what KARMA is doing currently than KARMA and you in particular should apply that statement to everything NPO is accused of doing evilly. You in that single paragraph just said that either KARMA is as bad if not worse that what they claim the NPO is, or that the NPO has done nothign wrong as it was just following that sentiment.

and KARMA did not take a second to consider our counter offer for the terms of surrender, which increased the money owed by a billion. Do not sit all high and mighty thinking that you are the crusaders of peace. If you guys truly wanted peace you would at least TRY and attempt to work with us on surrender terms, but KARMA refuses to do even that.

The only people claiming that evey bank in the NPO has a 1Bn + warchest are those on the side of KARMA. From my understanding the 1Bn + warchest for the banks is a isolated occurance, probably the top 5 banks only. I would imagine that the majority of the banks have far less than 1BN, which is where the issue with the terms presented lie. I'm sure if every bank in the NPO had 1BN+ the 14 days of war (after 90% of alliance is out of PM which is highly unlikely to near impossible, especially with ghosts etc) would not be an issue. Plus as i just stated, getting 90% of the alliance out of PM will be difficult to near impossible due to lightly active members, ghosts, and anyone from KARMA who decides to change their affiliation to NPO so that this requirement would not be met. As you can very well imagine and see, once the banks would come out of peace mode and the NPO was 90% in war, it would be easy for nation's from KARMA, whether ordered or not, could change their affiliation to NPO and hit PM, thus taking the alliance out of the 90% at war and prolonging the pounding on the banks. Even if KARMA doesn't want people to ghost NPO's, i guarantee people, on their own accord will do this, playing havoc with the peace terms, which is one reason why we didn't accept it. As you can see if the 90% wasn't meant to put the NPO banks in permanent warfare than they can easily be manipulated to have that happen.

FYP - I think the point you seem oblivious to is that you not only curbstomped multiple alliances, you took their sovereignty and forced multiple players out of the game. If you are going to quote what i say please quote it word for word and do not alter it as you did in your post. I do not mind your arguments against what i said, but please address them in your own words instead of changing the words i said. "Curbstomp" is not a word I use, and will never use. I ask that from now on you please only quote people when you are willing to quote their exact words with out altering them. Thank you for understanding this.

So are you saying that winning too many wars is the issue? That, in essence, is what it comes down to. Yes people are whining about our "harsh" terms to those we beast, but even if we offered "light terms" i guarantee that this would still be going on. Even though the unofficial DOW and the reasons behind the near impossible peace terms is NPO's "harsh" terms of past, we would still be at war as the hate for the NPO, which is driving this war, is not from the past terms handed out but because they were flat out beat, and have been beat for the past 3 years (i say 3 years as, for this argument, i will bow to KARMA's view the NPO lost the GPW for the sake of lake of argument over it). So you are basically saying, Jaxon, that we should start loosing more, on purpose at that given past history. I don't think this is viable.

364 days 23 hours 33 minutes and some seconds until this Treaty is actually canceled then i take it. Or do you plan to ignore it and then attempt to keep it?