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[quote name='Londo Mollari' date='14 April 2010 - 10:37 PM' timestamp='1271309851' post='2260998']
You mean like how GDA kept the NPO propped up for years by being allied to them when NPO was holding FAN hostage?
Yeah... cry me a river.
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I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying that because GDA made the wrong decision three years ago, they should again make the wrong decision today? Making the right choice is laudable, even if I am skeptical of how much of an effect it will have on the Grämlins. -
[quote name='Starfox101' date='13 April 2010 - 02:44 AM' timestamp='1271151864' post='2258564']
Boo hoo. All of you whining about Gramlins keeping IRON at war supported the NPO doing the same thing.
What we can all assure though, is that this war won't last near as long as the one you supported.
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Hi Starfox. As a fellow Vox founder I like to think my anti-NPO credentials are pretty solid. I, too, have a problem with how the Grämlins are keeping IRON at war. Do you care to actually address those concerns or are you just desperately trying to throw any character attacks you can find at people with whom you disagree? -
[quote name='supercoolyellow' date='11 April 2010 - 06:34 PM' timestamp='1271036049' post='2256831']
I [i]think[/i] Janova is going back to the before WoTC days to when hegemony was made up of NPO and NpO.
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That still doesn't make any sense... why define sides by how they were two years ago? -
[quote name='TheNeverender' date='11 April 2010 - 02:02 PM' timestamp='1271019747' post='2256574']
Interesting putting Blue on the ex-Hegemony side of things, given where they were fighting in the last war.
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If you draw the line right through Polar it should be reasonably accurate, except for NSO.
And to those observing NSO's proximity to STA and NpO, I would say that is more out of coincidence than anything else given the lack of a treaty between NSO and anyone else in that area. -
[quote name='Shamshir' date='11 April 2010 - 03:53 PM' timestamp='1271026368' post='2256654']
If you choose to believe the worst assumptions of those on the OWF then that's your call. I would have hoped people would know the actual member of my alliance a little better and not let their view be clouded by those who shout the loudest on this stage who will come to the certain conclusion that if you do surrender only the above terms i stated are what we will give.
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No matter what you believe the final terms Ramirus would put down after an unconditional surrender are, Ramirus and your alliance as a whole are still behaving in a bizarre and irrational fashion, and the fact that IRON is not inclined to agree to an unconditional surrender is not something anyone can hold against them.
There are two possibilities for the terms that your alliance will give to IRON after an unconditional surrender; either terms they would not accept if offered up front, or terms they would accept if offered up front. In the case of the former, Ramirus is trying to disguise harsh terms as something other than it is and IRON is justified in not surrendering. In the case of the latter, there is no rational explanation for why Ramirus wants an unconditional surrender before laying out the terms, assuming he actually wants to end the war. That assumption may be an erroneous one, in which case the explanation is that Ramirus wants to keep fighting IRON for a little while longer before peace and is using his peace offer as political cover so he cannot be criticized for keeping IRON in perpetual war. To summarize, either Ramirus wants IRON to submit to overly harsh terms, Ramirus is crazy, or Ramirus doesn't want IRON to get peace for a while longer. Take your pick, no matter the explanation IRON cannot be criticized for refusing to give in yet.
Unless you have another explanation, which I would love to hear. -
[quote name='Bob Janova' date='11 April 2010 - 03:32 AM' timestamp='1270981929' post='2256286']
I guess we just disagree on the strategic value of mandatory intelligence sharing then. That means that you have to tell Polar if you are going to attack anyone who could reasonably be expected to chain Polar in, or if you learn that someone else is, which means that if anyone in SG wants to start a war with anyone close to NpO on the web, you have to tell them about it. That has significant strategic value.
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While I am unsure what "SG" means, I'm curious how many alliances are tied to Fark and not MK or Ragnarok and thus would not already be covered by intelligence sharing clauses in those treaties. -
Good to see this treaty, as I quite like both alliances.
[quote name='Corinan' date='08 April 2010 - 07:14 PM' timestamp='1270779222' post='2253729']
You've got to be kidding me. Just another slap in the face for the Sith, eh Polaris? I'm absolutely stunned at the level of contempt you've shown us.
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Surprise! Not everything is about NSO. -
[quote name='DracoAltair90' date='01 April 2010 - 02:54 PM' timestamp='1270158857' post='2244394']
I can tell that, but why does NSO as a whole "dislike" Polaris' actions?
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In January, Polar pulled out of the war with no warning to its allies, which certainly ruffled some feathers at NSO. Later, Polar re-entered, defending NSO by declaring war on GOD, but after a couple weeks came to a peace agreement with GOD and their allies that did not include peace for NSO. Polar among others claim that NSO could have received peace had they behaved differently, NSO denies this as far as I can tell.
edit: that's as unbiased an analysis as I can provide, not being privy to any of the details of events after January. -
[quote name='Corinan' date='01 April 2010 - 02:49 PM' timestamp='1270158526' post='2244385']
Ah, now I understand your motive for completely screwing us over. You've been trying to get rid of us for some time now then, eh? Also, at least from my own personal standpoint, you've guessed incorrectly.
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Actually, Grub was probably the most staunch NSO supporter in the alliance until all the events that happened in January and February. When Frostbite was canceled, Grub decided to sign a separate treaty with you guys against the advice of more than one Council member because he felt an obligation to keep you guys alive. -
[quote name='Doitzel' date='01 April 2010 - 01:13 AM' timestamp='1270109611' post='2243487']
May God give me the Oxyclean to fight this scum.[/quote]
Such hatred! I think you need to take a step back and think of what the root of the problem is. I mean, imagine there's no countries - it isn't hard to do. Nothing to kill, or die for. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. -
[quote name='Mussolandia' date='01 April 2010 - 12:34 AM' timestamp='1270107223' post='2243456']
There's no hailing. It's not my quota, it's the average bystander's quota.
EDIT: I've also got serious issues with how you handled the war effort and still get to speak with a straight face. Want to clear that up?
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[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=83488&view=findpost&p=2242861"]You[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=83488&view=findpost&p=2242867"]mean[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=83488&view=findpost&p=2242871"]other[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=83488&view=findpost&p=2242881"]than[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=83488&view=findpost&p=2242902"]all[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=83488&view=findpost&p=2242903"]the[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=83488&view=findpost&p=2242906"]hailing?[/url] Not only am I mystified as to why you think there needs to be a certain amount of hailing per treaty, I'm further confused by the fact that you evidently ignored page 1 of the thread when claiming there has been an insufficient amount. I can't even believe I'm arguing about this.
Look, I'm not here to argue about the what happened in the war. I understand why you guys are pissed off at Polar and I'm not making any claims either way about who's to blame for what. Feel free to query me if you actually want to discuss that. I'm simply stating that dropping the standard of your posts to criticizing an alliance for not [i]hailing enough[/i] is ridiculous. -
[quote name='Mussolandia' date='01 April 2010 - 12:27 AM' timestamp='1270106848' post='2243446']
I find the lack of cheering disturbing. Are you ashamed, Polar? What's up?
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What the hell? I can understand that you've got serious issues with how Polar treated NSO but it's rather sad to see the level of your criticisms dropping to "You didn't meet the Mussolandia Quota For Treaty Hailing". -
[quote name='Haflinger' date='31 March 2010 - 11:28 PM' timestamp='1270103284' post='2243398']
It's a direct copy of the second Vox Populi DoE.
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Only the [i]"In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran"[/i], etc, part is a copy of Vox's DOE (which of course is itself a copy). The Reformation, Reconciliation, and Revenge part is taken from VE's second DOE; Vox used [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=30981]"The Reformation, and a Declaration of Vox Populi"[/url] -
[quote name='Lennox' date='31 March 2010 - 08:25 PM' timestamp='1270092298' post='2242948']
On a lighter note, I think this is a show of what a great job Penguin is doing regardless of the fact that polar is now a supercomplaint slave again.
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One non-chaining treaty each to two different blocs makes them a slave of some amalgamation of both blocs? Really? -
It is good to see this treaty back. It was one of the greatest casualties of the war as I see it.
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[quote name='Mansa Musa' date='12 March 2010 - 03:30 PM' timestamp='1268433349' post='2223637']
...Ivan Moldavi again I suppose.
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Ivan would have been the one that laid down the terms, but Tygaland was the first viceroy. Either way, if the category is "First time a viceroy was used", the answer would be the end of the First Polar War rather than any person involved. -
#1 is the best, and would be even better if you gave it a cleaner look. I don't get why people feel it necessary to make it look like their flags were the victims of an accident involving a a paint bucket and a paper shredder.
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[quote name='Smacky' date='23 February 2010 - 10:36 PM' timestamp='1266993582' post='2200884']
It's a better name you have to admit.
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Where did you get the idea that kind of thing was funny? Jesus. -
I still don't understand why this treaty was signed in the first place. Either way, I won't be shedding many tears over this cancellation. Best of luck to Polar.
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I wish you all would wait until after the war finishes and we have no other drama to busy ourselves with. As it is, we can only devote so much of our time to pointing our fingers and laughing at GGA.
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[quote name='Matthew Conrad' date='21 February 2010 - 08:14 PM' timestamp='1266812047' post='2196109']
We did not take 40k tech. We took half of that. Honestly, I very much doubt you would be so vocal had you not have a personal connection to one of the alliances attached to this announcement. That's fine, most people still hold a fondness for their former alliance. Perhaps you would be so outraged had it been an alliance completely unrelated to you. Either way, I'd appreciate you get your facts right next time.[/quote]
While Pezstar may have a former connection to the Legion, there are others in this thread that are similarly vocal that have no connection to Legion. Don't be so quick to dismiss criticism just because of what you judge the motive is behind it. -
[quote name='Mr Damsky' date='21 February 2010 - 08:10 PM' timestamp='1266811827' post='2196094']
Are you surprised? It's not like they know much about it.
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I don't think that's necessary or called for. -
Judging by the fact that white peace (or at least, peace without reparations) was offered earlier, it is clear that the reparations here are not about compensating Sparta for its losses - Sparta almost certainly took more damage from Legion leading up to that point than it has since. So the only conclusion left is that Sparta is punishing Legion for staying in the war, a war they only entered out of loyalty to their allies. It is disheartening then to see that Sparta finds loyalty to one's allies something worthy of punishment. For shame.
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[quote name='Gopherbashi' date='19 February 2010 - 10:00 AM' timestamp='1266602408' post='2192233']
Yeah, so, I wasn't able to grab warstats yesterday, so rather than taking stats now, tonight's post will just cover two days.
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We'll never forgive you.
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Posted · Edited by Moridin
My \m/ target at the start of the war was inactive (and eventually was deleted), so I assume that isn't representative of the entire alliance. PC nation I fought never actually did anything, despite being active (didn't even nuke me, despite the fact that there wasn't anyone else nuking me at the time), so that was a major disappointment. The FOK guys I went up against were alright, they were bigger but lacked coordination so by war's end they were about at a level with me. Same goes for the VE guys, and the one Kronos nation. Later in the war, I had one TOP target that fought back pretty damn well despite being significantly smaller, so kudos there. The other TOP target I had was hopelessly outnumbered so I don't hold it against him/her.
I feel like I somehow accidentally missed all the best fighters in the game when choosing my targets, and they missed me. Sort of disappointing war in terms of actual combat, all in all. I should note, however, that everyone I fought was respectful and enjoyable to talk to (at least, those opponents with whom I exchanged messages). It's good to see the quality of people in these wars has not gone down even if the difficulty of combat is something less than I had hoped for.