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  9. TIEs incoming

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    6 hours ago, Vortagre said:

    4th largest alliance in Bob FTW needs Legion, Argent, Loss, Claws plus few other alliance whose names I can't remember right now against 

    Tankobite, myself, Lucius and 12 Cobra Guys plus the handful of rebels in sell swords and losing.

    Oh boy... this becoming a bigger embarrassement than when OoT disbanded that Oculus micro ally while fighting against 11 AA coalition virtually alone 😂😂

     

    I don’t really hold any personal animosity towards you all, but this is kind of a tired cliche from wars past. There isn’t a whole lot for nations/rulers to do these days, why wouldn’t we jump in on this? I’ve been on the otherside of plenty of lopsided fights that lasted months and those were uneven for the same reason this one is: it is not an embarrasment to use resources wisely. FTW could take you on their own sure, but why should they, and why is that outcome desirable to those they are allied to? We would prefer to spread the pain and keep FTW relatively more healthy. 

  14. Recognition of War

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    3 hours ago, MistressMisfit said:

     

    I agree.

     

    good god NpO, you are still playing this game, give the people what they want, a banner, an image, I want to feel the march moving forward! You know you can do better than this :(

     

    The people haven't earned a polar banner yet. They need to try harder.

  16. Oculus' Second Decree

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    The whole Aztec plotline that began with TOP/Sparta but somehow MI6 was the one who took the entire fall for it. (finally remembered what alliances) Ya know, the entire reason Sengoku/et al began to dislike/distrust MI6.


    I mean if you want to really dive into it then you have to remember that there was never anything that can be meaningfully be called a scheme, more a former gov member of sparta took the initiative to have a poorly thought out conversation with members of sengoku, then not tell anyone. After that a former government member of TOP was confronted on the sketchy conversation and was defensive, having no context. Mi6 had their own series of issues with Umbrella and Aztec, these were separate contributing events, coupled with convenience, that set off a cycle bad interactions resulting in a war. What separates you and us, is that we took the time to really think about what was happening on both sides of that communication while you continue to presume basic ill motive.

    We worked to resolve that enmity while you doubled down. This war has almost nothing to do with what happened before the last one, but like the last one it occurred because you neglected to address bad optics and resolve issues. You accepted the presumption that people were gunning for you, that you would inevitably be rolled, and rather than try to take corrective action you sat and basically did nothing. If you want to call me a lapdog or a stooge for thinking your approach was foolish and a waste of energy then by all means, I'm still right.

    See the mistakes we made- we have owned up to long ago. The issue is, Occulus and apparently TOP, wants us to own up to !@#$ that others did. Not MI6. Like plotting against Aztec. That was TOP and Sparta but is one of the main reasons Aztec is lined up against MI6 right now. 
     
    The only other mistakes we have made- not becoming a puppet lackey state like TOP? Sorry, at one point I absolutely loved TOP and now y'all not even a shadow of your former self. You are nothing more than a shadow of Umbrella. MI6 apparently made the mistake of not wanting to be Umbrella's pawn. 
     
    If that means we will get rolled in a year then so be it. I would rather keep getting rolled while being on my feet, than live on my knees.


    I'm not asking you to own up to any offense, I'm talking about your basic approach to dealing with other people. Not explicit acts, your toxic manner in public and in private, which has turned so many off to you, has spoiled collaborative efforts in coalitions, and has created a stigma around even being attached to you. I'm talking about the things you have done that have contributed to your political failure. To this point you have accumulated all the vices of MK and yet you lack their ability to compensate with good high quality diplomacy. They didn't thrive simply by making a mess of the OWF, and being a political zoo internally- they had real diplomatic acumen and strong personalities that could clean up the many messes their abrasive elements created.

  17. Oculus' Second Decree

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    So, when y'all and Sparta plotted against whoever (I honestly can't be arsed to remember) but somehow MI6 gets the full blame, that is entirely the fault of MI6? You !@#$@#$ with me right now right? I mean, seriously. That has got to be it.


    What are you even talking about? I'm just saying you guys need to learn from your mistakes, and yet you act as if everything you've done has been painstaking and deliberate rather than half assed and impulsive. You can blame everyone else for your problems, that's fine, but the cost of that self certainty is you'll be back here in another year.

  18. Oculus' Second Decree

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    I also express faux outrage at TOP becoming nothing more than an Umbrella stooge for the low price of $1.50.


    Rather than blaming your problems on former allies, and external parties, you should consider what you all have done to get yourselves here. It is true, you are unfortunate victims, but victims of unfit candidates calling themselves your leaders. You know who I'm talking about, the sort of people that impress others with the notion that your alliance is composed entirely of tactless reprobates. Fix that problem, and change your approach.

    When founded, you guys presented yourselves as a bold experiment, well it pains me to say it, but so far it's a failed one- do something about it.

  20. Oculus Decree

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    And so we take a knee- not for our sins, nor for the sins of planet bob. But rather, for the continuation of the cyclical pattern that envelops CN. When one day the streets run red with the blood of this second Pacifican hegemony, ripped apart by the world at large for its various transgressions, our sacrifice shall resonate in the screams of anguish of our disgraced opponents.
     
    History repeats itself. And there will come a point where the sprouts of fear planted deeply in the minds of fringe powers and minor allies alike will blossom into a grand opposition born of self preservation. And when that time comes, we will be present to balance the scales of righteous revenge and cast you back into the isolated depth which you just crawled out of. 
     
    So it is scribbled.


    Every war is a cautionary tale, all have their lessons and mistakes to inform future actions. History is a helix not a circle.

  21. Oculus Decree

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    Posted · Edited by iamthey

    Sit down, puppet.


    You first ;p.
     

    Yo wasup IAT?

    Do you really believe these "just because" DoWs, which have become so popular post-MK's preempt of NPO way back when, is the way to go when you want to believe your "opponent deserves it"?


    Not much omni, just playing my part in wartime !@#$ slinging.

    I don't really care about the quality of the OP, or the expressed rationale for war- what really matters in a war is that people be motivated in some meaningful way. Wars of convenience are routine, wars with a story don't have to be. A solid cb with an uninspiring target can be meaningless, a nonexistent justification with a bitter underpinning can be fantastic. A war need not be balanced, or risky to be good- it only needs to be worthwhile to those undertaking it.

    I'd say this war has a story, and if it's worthwhile and meaningful to those undertaking it that's really all that matters. In the case of NPO-MK- I'd say the same applied. I was in NPO for that after all, and it was certainly a profound moment.

    That being said, what is dull and probably more harmful to the international community than this war (or one's like it), is the constant critique from the standpoint of its harm on the [ooc]game[/ooc]. At the end of the day that's really just a veiled threat to take your ball and go home, isn't it? Though I would posit perhaps we're thinking about it the wrong way, perhaps that's not a threat at all, maybe someone can aspire to finally [ooc]'win' cybernations[/ooc]?

  22. Oculus Decree

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    Let's pretend there is any truth behind this statement for a second. Would you rather your enemy just lie down and not even attempt to put up a fight? Isn't the entire point of war on Bob at this point to provide us with our yearly entertainment to remind us why we don't hate this world?


    But if people don't believe the reasons they develop for justifying the war, isn't the entire exercise of war reduced to annoying schedules, the compiling of statistics, and repetitive rote mechanical motions? Basically the fun experience itself is believing your opponent deserves it, not the instrumental task of war itself.

  25. Sengoku, have some honor.

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    I guess that by "something foolish" you mean defending their alliance?

     

    I couldn't say what the path out of their predicament is- they've pretty well backed themselves into a dead end diplomatically. I'm just saying that a thread like this doesn't appear calculated to accomplish anything, it reeks of frustrated desperation. You can't necessarily control the fact that you're a target, but this is honestly worse than sitting around and doing nothing. 

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