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Whilst this kind of thread seems like it is amusing, it really lacks anything new or exciting. There are dozens of avenues open right now to attack Pacifica over just about anything, the need to open another one, so lacking in subtlety simply passes me by. Being far too lazy and indifferent to actually care enough to report it doesn't mean I regard this kind of deliberate action as being that helpful to anyone's cause.
The horse is dead, stop kicking it hoping it will run again.
Further, some of you really need to get off the horse you are riding and check not only the colour of the horse but the colour of your hat.
Im not going to make a habit out of this, but I finally agree on something a NPO-member says. B)
Any remarks, posts or threads made about NPO's current situation on the Red sphere should be either Official or Epic.
That way we will be all sure that those posts will be new or at the least very humorous.
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I don't see why we'd want to remember.
I saw what you did there
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I see no problem with calling out someone on their hypocrisy. If NPO had never made a big deal about peace mode nations then I'd agree, but calling them hypocrites is not the same thing as being "the same old !@#$ with a new dish".
If NPO had like 80% of its nations in PM it would be a hypocritical act. However its only 31.6% (at the time of typing).
PM-Nations are needed to rebuild/aid to rebuild/ stretch a war.
The only funny part in this is that the Top 45 of NPO are currently in Peace. On a side note: those are the regions to gain at least a good amount of cash.
Though I encourage all NPO Peace Moders to get out and participate in the fun. I heard you guys are getting some insane figures to deal with if you dont<--- Those figures are truly not my idea.
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Iron, you guys faught like Hell. Good to see you have Peace now.
So I suggest activating article2 and sit down under the Orange Tree to get drunk as Hell.
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Epic thread is Epic?
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But you didn't have to follow his example, don't be influenced by other people, or you will end up in a box somewhere off the coast of Liberia, trust me.
''10 years in the box''
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SO let me get this straight. Your alliance dictates to other alliances how they can respond when members of your alliances attacks them? Yeah that makes sense.
FOK=fail
How hard is it to read?
1: Fok-member attacks Wolf-member
2: Fok-member gets kicked out the Fok!-Alliance and Wolf is free to do with that member as they please.
3: You start whining like a little baby.
We dont dictate to others how to react. We nearly state a more smarter move.
And if you hate us so much, why dont declare?
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No.
And we are not happy in pass NPO in this way.
Sure you all are happy. You abandoned your big brother specially for this to happen.
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The newly created alliances attempt to grab the deserters. Yeah, a generalization.. who cares? Anyway, the newly-created deserter alliances will mature in the coming months. The hopes here, you see, is that the newly matured deserter alliances build a strong core of members that are loyal to the alliance. These core members fight the wars(verbally and in game), and the deserters leave again to join some other new deserter alliance.
Ah, the circle of lies
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join my alliance
Editted it for you B)
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I know what we are doing. We are doing what many other major alliances do.
You are indeed doing what your big brother is doing. Failing.
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If his friends join in and we can take them, we might as well. Obviously he himself refuses diplomacy, what makes us think any of his friends will be more diplomatic?
Im still waiting for your official DOW against us.
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This word 'escalate' is your excuse to fly off the handle and go crazy, when all it really means is that the defending alliance is defending their member from YOUR initial aggression. Do you not understand that the possibility of escalation wouldn't even exist if your member hadn't started the war?
Your guy created the war with the tech raid, so you are in no position to complain (or justify further aggression on your part) when a defending alliance moves to protect themselves against YOUR initial attacker. The war should not have to remain 1v1 if the defending alliance wishes to help it's member, because it is usually the case in techraids that the attacking nation is bigger and more capable militarily than the defending nation. Therefore, a military response and fast declarations in support of their member are perfectly justified, and provided that they are accompanied with diplomacy (ie. an agreement for peace all round once the initial aggression has stopped and is reasonably paid for) is an acceptable course of action.
Good to see someone that likes The Sims better then CN. By implying its MY guy you imply that I ordered the initial attack.
For some reason you thickheaded guys keep on discussing the Tech Raids. Let me make that clear for you once and for all, since some of you dont seem to comprehend: there is no discussion.
For the other matter: you want war? You get it. If you dont want to go diplomatic you can get it whatever way you want.
The part where you say: filling up the slots with more alliance members is however one thing I agree on. Though the military response is nothing more then an act of aggression by an entire Alliance.
And if you then start crying that we are ''The Big Mean Machine'': well wake up: you wanted full scale alliance wars.
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I just love how people refer to the DD-war when they have absolutely no clue about the how and why of that war.
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Another great topic by WOLF. The fact that you guys don't seem to realise just how small you are cracks me up. The people trying to get a cheap shot in against techraiding is funny too.
This topic delivers.
And so it does.
Ah, you are correct.I need coffee.
Suger in it?
No, they don't. Unless your alliance likes to defend the right of people to launch unprovoked wars.If you launch an unprovoked assault upon a nation with allies, it seems obvious that that nation's allies are honour-bound to defend that nation if they can. Any retaliation those nations launch against the attacker could have been easily prevented by the attacker choosing not to launch an unprovoked assault.
The short of it is, the war system is already heavily weighted towards those who launch unprovoked attacks. By bringing your alliancemates into it to defend your right to launch said attacks, you are just acting as a bully.
No. I could say something about Invicta and NPO here, but Im not.
As I said previously: you can go diplomatic or you go war. Pic your choise but then dont start whining when things turn bad.
So you would stand by and allow your fellow brothers to get crushed by another nation and do nothing I take it?That kind of defeats the purpose of being in a alliance does it not
We at FOK protect our Members any means necessary. With TeachRaidVictims that ask for the diplomatic way we help our fellow member by sending in a Diplomat. With TechRaidVictims that ask for a total war we help our fellow member by sending in our warlords.
If a nation raids a nation that is in an alliance he should expect the other nations in that alliance to defend and FOK shouldn't do a damn thing about it in my opinion.Read my previous statement.
Sorry I didn't clarify what I meant.Say nation A tech raids on nation B and nation B is a member of FOK, using his logic none of the members of FOK should be allowed to help nation B.
And because the current war system is so one sided towards the aggressor, and since most nations that aren't in war keep a relatively low military, the chances of getting put into anarchy is very high.
We at FOK will not step in as a war machine when 1 member of us is attacked by 1 member for a Tech Raid. However we will send in a Diplomat to solve it. Anarchy is just slightly annoying, nothing more. Anarchy itself does not decrease income/destroy infra/land/tech.
How is my comparison wrong. I just wanted to make sure you guys held yourselves to the same rules you expect everybody else to live by as well.And you answered my question I was raising, so that settles that.
He didnt answer your question. I do however.
I thought they had one with NPO. I seem to recall saying that if a KARMA member tech-raided them one more time they'd join the war on NPO's side. I wonder if they're writing their declaration right now...As for the OP, it seems a little strange to whine about being tech-raided and then sentencing someone to ZI before seeking a diplomatic solution... I forsee WOLF not staying very long. Or becoming the new NPO.
I only see WOLF as a new and young Alliance that needs to learn the way of the Diplomat if they ever want to become a nice knowing Alliance.
Therefor said what I wanted to say I request a LOCK.
Seems things have been handled correctly and a general discussion about Tech Raiding has to find its own Topic.
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They aren't uninvolved. They're defending their alliance mate, who was attacked.
Even though I dont like Tech Raiding much its a part of the game and a part of my Alliance.
We have very strict policies for Tech Raiders. Its all at your own risk and you are forced to pay reps if your Raiding victim asks for it.
But nonetheless its a 1vs1 ''war''.
Can hardly call it a war since only weapons of tech/land stealing capabilities are allowed to send in. After all its the purpose to steal, not to destroy.
But when someone else from that Alliance comes in he makes it an Alliance war.
Best is to come to Irc or our Forum and ask for a FOK Official. They are highly willing to help you out.
So if the raider refuses to grant peace and is engaged by more nations of WOLF who are legitimately protecting a member of their alliance will FOK escalate?I hope not as while I do agree that tech raiding is a part of the game the right of an alliance to defend its members is a larger part of the game. Good show WOLF, and good luck resolving this situation. I suggest being very patient and diplomatic. That tends to work better than threats.
If an Alliance chooses the path of war, war it will get. We at FOK know the difference between the acts of individuals and the acts of many. Thats the great difference between Rogues, Ghosts, Order Ignorer's and Full Alliance Wars. Therefor we always ask for diplomatics ways.
Understood, but they still have the right to defend their members if they choose. They should not have to settle for reps when it was your member that made the mistake. Really, when a tech-raided nation's alliance accepts reps instead of escalating the war they are doing the attacking nation's alliance a favor, but they should retain the option of hitting the raider back until he ends his attacks in my opinion.If the attacked nation wishes to continue the war with his Alliance he declares war on FOK. You dont like it, I dont like it and many others dont like it. But the sheer fact is that this is how we role. At that point FOK is not making this raid escalate.
I understand that too and that is the conventional way of doing things, but that is doing a favor which they do not owe you. They should always have the option of defending their member conventionally (of course waiving the right to any reps in the process) if they so choose.As I said previously and with my many others: you have the right to make things escalate. We only pray each night for people to do so. CB's are so hard to find since there is almost never reason for war. Diplomats rule! <--- they do their Duty, everybody stays happy.
I couldn't agree more, and would further suggest that smashing tech raiders by any means necessary creates an environment that is hostile to them, thus making it an unprofitable venture for these ruffians to embark upon. FOK really ought to consider the implications of their policies and simply make it known that whatever transpires in the course of a tech raid is entirely the responsibility of the tech raider.So if in fact a micro-alliance decides to make an example out of a tech raider they'd just have take their beating like a big boy and get over it without the constipation of the Lion to back them up.
Read the previous parts.
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they do some ghost busting but were left with a mess by TSO.
My name is Boxxxy!
Darn. I wanted to post something clever here, but Boxxxy prevented that
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IRON's top nations mostly have $1 billion warchests. They're ready to fight already.
The thing that started this whole ****storm was that NPO was really weak in that department. They may well not have enough to fight a prolonged war.
NPO always trusted on their Meat Shields.
Now that those Meat Shields stabbed them in the back they find themselves a bit, uhmn, uncomfortable.
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The Red team is the sovereignty of the New Pacific Order. Raiding the Red team is to trespass on our territory. Hence, the Revenge Doctrine. However, at the moment there are larger infringements of our sovereignty that must be attended to first.
Actually you made me laugh with the last line
Right hand: Karma. Curbstomping you all around, making 1000 day+ nations delete themselves.
Left hand: Lose dogs reaping the leftovers.
Hmn, what hand to protect
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The screenshot in question was not solicited nor directly obtained by Ordo Verde, and the New Pacific Order, among others, has defended the idea that accepting information is not spying. As the NPO has made no effort to strengthen their case, there is no legitimacy to the CB presented to start the war.
I have to make a small correction here.
They didnt have a legit CB. We, the defenders of OV, have.
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If this continues the way it is currently going we will see the GRL on top of this race.
Would be awesome to see the flag for them
And obviously--> the Karma PoW flag.
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It has been great fun to battle a Vice President and a Minister of Special Forces.
Good luck with the Peace.
Oh and ehh, MoSF: make sure in the future your spies lay of the booze. ^^
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Coen is The Man!
The rate at which Nukes are fired recently I think the GRL is the biggest gainer in the race.
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Yah, there's a reason I try to be up for update.
Noticed. B)
Nice damages btw.
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There you go! I think the nuke was mean though :'( It's not like I can nuke you back because someone keeps beating me to it.
Dont worry about it. The one doing it has a WRC, so he will do way more damage then you ever could
The Amazing Sanction Race
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wow 8 points left for the NPO before they get booted out the great Sanction race.
They sure as hell dropped down a long way.