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  3. Honest Signatures

    in Open World RP

    Posted

    [quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1354996039' post='3061875']
    Umbrella and GOONS were the scapegoats, so MK wouldn't come across so much as an alliance who holds permanent grudges and tries keeping alliances down so they can't become a threat.
    [/quote]

    Meth "it's always MK's doing" rage?

  5. Delusion

    in World Affairs (IC)

    Posted

    [quote name='Roadie' timestamp='1354328646' post='3058773']
    I assure you, nobody is counting on any CnG alliances fighting for the "other" side.

    e: I suspect you're wrong about Umbrella. They've never had a hard war. Alliances that haven't been through war lose huge numbers. If they saw a hard fight, Umbrella would bleed unprecedented amounts of upper tier nations. If I were planning to oppose DH, I would count on Umbrellans fleeing en masse before I'd count on CnG.
    [/quote]

    That's the spirit.

  11. The Reaver Accords

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    [quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1349931098' post='3039768']
    ever think maybe the problem is constantly fighting curbstomps instead of a fair fight?
    [/quote]
    [quote name='King Louis the II' timestamp='1349931325' post='3039771']
    How you dare using logic, reasoning and common sense??? :awesome:
    [/quote]

    You should leave it to Myth, he is way better at doing dumb posts. At least he gives them some thought.

    [quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1350002976' post='3040275']
    It is really mind-numbing how people think any alliance should set out to try to maneuver into an even numbered fight. It has never been done by ANYONE in the history of this planet or ANY planet similar to this. You side with people who share the same goals as you, and you do so until they no longer share the same goals. If that side has a numbers advantage. so flipping be it. It would be irresponsible on every measurable level for an alliance to set to create an "equal" enemy.
    [/quote]

  14. An Umbrella Announcement

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    [quote name='Letum' timestamp='1349872167' post='3039414']
    Except we weren't at war. The war was so long ago we don't care about it. We were still being met with insults and threats [b]a year after the war[/b] ended, despite approaching in peace. This is widely awknowledged, and your own leader has admitted the timing of his remarks in this very thread.

    You are claiming ulterior goals? Our goals are very simple. An individual threatened us. That individual gained the power to deliver on those threats. We were concerned about that, and made some noise. He has since backed down from his previously aggressive positions and showed a willingness to make some progress. By extention, and as Brehon has highlighted, we can stop making noise and start hoping our diplomatic initiatives are returned.

    Assuming that Umbrella follows through with reversing course on their previous policies and actions, then we are going to have that progress. That is a pretty simple goal.

    If basic alliance principles such as "We don't want to be attacked" don't make sense to you, then I suggest you re-examine the biases with which you are framing this discussion. If you enter the discussion with the unshakable pre-conception that Umbrella has been a quiet wallflower that has been singled out by an Order that has been very successful in talking things over with all other previous enemies, then of course it isn't going to make any damn sense.
    [/quote]

    Your insinuations would make sense in a vacuum where no other alliance besides Umbrella and NPO existed. To even consider that just because one individual who has shown dislike for you has achieved a leadership position it will immediatelly put you at risk is a simplistic view that ignores internal and, more importantly, external obstacles to that scenario. Even in your worst nightmares Natan is not an enraged man would throw Umbrella against a wall just for the chance of attacking you when you barely have 20 nations in our range.

    I think it's clear what you said doesn't make sense. You were never at risk, there was always going to be peaceful co-existence, you had never a reason to make mud slinging you did.

    Your post was very good nonetheless and I acknowledge that. You should do it more often.

  15. An Umbrella Announcement

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    [quote name='Letum' timestamp='1349817050' post='3039093']
    I'm not sure you realized the irony in this statement when you wrote it. It is the condescension and insults (and threats - of which you will see a distinct lack of from our side) with which we were met in our repeated attempts at reconciliation that led to this situation in the first place. You should stand up for your own character, and not suddenly disavow your own self because you see some narrow opening for a moral high ground.

    Follow your leader's example; at least he has the fortitude and courage listen to his allies and admit the error of his ways. Being able to back down is a strength, not a weakness.
    [/quote]

    I am sorry we hurt your feelings before. Condescence and insults were perfectly natural considering we were at war. Right now we're at peace and you claim you feel threatned by us but want peace and yet you act the otherway around. I am not disavowing myself, I am saying that you don't make sense and that you likely have ulterior goals for the show you set up on the OWF.

    I am not exactly sure what you're saying about backing down because the only people standing up to this announcement was you and your Emperor. We had nothing to do with anything and frankly we couldn't care less about NPO.

  17. An Umbrella Announcement

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted · Edited by Lusitan

    [quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1349746484' post='3038829']
    Like I said, if only it was during negotiations.

    I am easy to find Natan.
    [/quote]

    And yet you insist on being a jerk on a public forum. To be honest, after this one post (well there were strong indications before but I wanted to give you benefit of the doubt!) we are left with one of two options: either you don't really want any reconcilliation and you are trying to milk whatever you say that happened to pursue a political agenda towards whoever or you're a complete idiot who moves around in politics with the grace of an elephant in a porcelain store.

    Why would any leader of any alliance, regardless of the alliance, with any self-respect try to talk with you after you addressed him in public in such a condescending and insulting manner? Your actions don't match your words.

    EDIT: the language is fixed.

  18. An Umbrella Announcement

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    [quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1349643107' post='3038320']
    Specifically - your alliance is unstable. You have more factions within your membership to have a Cybil complex and absolutely no control. To fix this you elect the one person that has basically !@#$ on anyone who tried to have communication who wasn't part of the rah rah Umbrella crowd but was willing to check you out. On a note closer to home, this same mouth breather loves to threaten my alliance and has done so since DH/NPO from peace negotiations forward.
    [/quote]

    Now that's a rather interesting statement to make. I am curious how did you figure out there are factions within Umbrella or that we are unstable? Both conclusions are absolutely wrong in a way I wouldn't expect an alliance leader of your rate to be wrong at...

  24. Sparta signs NpO

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted · Edited by Lusitan

    [quote name='bkphysics' timestamp='1348847911' post='3035185']
    Am I the only one who finds irony in a member of Umbrella labeling another alliance a lapdog?
    [/quote]

    You seem illiterate. I said that, after seeing what Sparta is capable of pulling off, being a lapdog seems more appealing than being a Sparta ally. I mentioned no other alliance.

    [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1348935381' post='3035653']
    As for Umbrella's Gov -- They're sovereign so it really isn't up to any of us [i]what[/i] they do. A president isn't elected to do what the people want and ask them how to do his/her job, they're elected to influence and lead to do what the alliance needs. It's an important distinction to make because doing the latter is often unpopular -- but doing the former is ...just bad government/policy.
    [/quote]

    Thank you for your insight on what Umbrella's government should do. I can imagine your experience and knowledge on leadership affairs must have helped you so much during the short period of time people allowed you to lead an alliance.

  25. Sparta signs NpO

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    [quote name='Enamel32' timestamp='1348810634' post='3035094']
    I realize you're trying to protect the hive. Good for you. I can appreciate that, but are you not reading what he just said in the last several posts?


    He just said, he would have preferred not to have DH become Umb's sole FA path, but he didn't say a word and let the membership of umb do whatever they wanted.

    That's got nothing to do with Sparta. It shows a clear inability to project his own vision to guide the alliance, which is exactly what a leader is supposed to do. Umb was highly respected across the board primarily because of Roq's legacy. Had JA been more assertive and not lost sight of the amount of power Umb really had, perhaps things would be different today. Perhaps, they wouldn't look like the lapdog of a multitude of alliances. Does that mean things would have been different for Sparta? I guess, potentially. Without doubt, I wish things played out differently, just as much if not more, than you wish the events didn't play out differently.
    [/quote]

    Knowing what I know of Sparta today I honestly see why being known as a lapdog of multiple alliances can be much more appealing than being an ally of yours.

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