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Jan Doedel

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    Reply from the Dirty Dozen

    in National & War

    Posted

    If 'playing properly' is allowing thugs to hit you and take what's yours without exacting consequences, I have news for you. There are plenty who don't play that and our ranks are growing -- as a direct consequence of aggression like yours.

    Yes, your ranks are growing. Growing with people like this. Oh, wait...

    Regards, Jan Doedel.

    Reply from the Dirty Dozen

    in National & War

    Posted

    If this is your current opinion, I would like to draw your attention to the following quote from the OP:

    That's a convenient exit strategy - Morath has presented himself multiple times as the spokesperson of the Dirty Dozen. I don't care if you (or himself, for that matter) don't recognize him as a leader - he has presented himself to us like that. Besides, in one of our little chats he stated the following (emphasis mine):

    1[11:49] <AvengerNL[FOK-MoFA]> well i will get the nation attacking mommyann to peace out

    1[11:49] <AvengerNL[FOK-MoFA]> and then consider the case solved

    [11:49] <Morath[Egalitarians]> no reps?

    [11:50] <Morath[Egalitarians]> We don't really expect them, but this is an alliance case

    01[11:50] <AvengerNL[FOK-MoFA]> meh, on those level thats a waste of aid slots, and added to that i believe it was both sides that are to be blamed

    [11:51] <Morath[Egalitarians]> Hmm well that should be fine. No doubt Mommyann will be disgruntled but she'll accept.

    ]

    Here we see him admitting that reps are an alliance case for them (which means the DD must be an alliance). We also see him taking a decision for someone else - which is the hallmark of a leader.

    Regards, Jan Doedel.

    Reply from the Dirty Dozen

    in National & War

    Posted

    Premises: The assertion that FOK! has thusfar put forth- that Dirty Dozen made an agreement and subsequently broke it- is false, due to the nature that such an agreement could not be made (that is, be valid) unless FOK! had specifically talked with Mommyann and reached an agreement with her.

    Which is not how alliance politics work. When dealing with an alliance, you talk to the leader or a representative thereof.

    I have attempted to make it quite clear in many of my posts that "individual diplomatic contact with the nation in question" is indeed how 'none-culture' principally operates. Unfortunately, others continually try to tell me that I am somehow 'wrong', and that their preconceived notions that NONE is nothing more than a "shadow alliance" are 'correct'. 'None-culture' is very different from 'Alliance-culture'. It would be a huge step in the right direction, and would make diplomacy so much easier, if people would actually admit that it might be true.

    If "None-culture" is so different from "Alliance-culture", they shouldn't pretend to be an alliance. If you take on an AA and have a leader (like the Dirty Dozen in this case) you cannot demand to be treated differently from other alliances (well, you can demand but I doubt it will work).

    Regards, Jan Doedel.

    Fok a Wapa twin?

    in Open World Forum

    Posted

    So you didn't say the following? (emphasis mine)

    only reported nations using proxies that are obvious multis in response to them attacking a friend of mine

    To me, it seems that you told us (and everyone else) what you did, and why you did it.

    Regards, Jan Doedel.

    Fok a Wapa twin?

    in Open World Forum

    Posted

    So what was the purpose of the attack?

    Maybe this is a hint:

    only reported nations using proxies that are obvious multis in response to them attacking a friend of mine
    I'm sure that makes the red sphere a whole lot more stable.

    Of course we talked to NPO first - they're our good allies, after all.

    Regards, Jan Doedel.

    Fok a Wapa twin?

    in Open World Forum

    Posted · Edited by Jan Doedel

    I am being tech raided by ruthless rogues from FOK

    The nations that are attacking you aren't rogues. The attack has been approved by the FOK government.

    Regards, Jan Doedel.

    Edit: it's not a tech raid either - FOK doesn't tech raid the Red team.

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