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o/ Invicta. [b]Awesome Allies[/b].
Hope that your fungal infection soon clears up at the car wash.
Also... o/ R&R -
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In acknowledgement of Article VIII-Withdrawal, following mutual discussions between The Legion and the North Atlantic Defense Coalition, as of the posting of this announcement, the treaty recognized by the above parties has now been cancelled.
[b]Signed for Legion:[/b]
Alexander Kerensky
Killer04
Regent Pancras
Tzar Rob
bjalbert
Roddney McCay
[b]Signed for NADC:[/b]
Secretary General: Dark Wizard
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Simman31
Minister of Internal Affairs: Justinian the Mighty
Military Operations Commander: Aloysius
Minister of Finance: Scotia the Brave
Elected Councilors:
Bosox Nation
Defiant
Emperor of Babanga
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I wish Good Luck to Nas in retirement - thanks for being a friend and confidante over the past two years.
o/ Nascar
o/ Thrash
o/ Invicta -
o/ Congratulations to our allies and friends in TLR.
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Congrats to our friends in the Christian Coalition of Countries on this new association. Warm congratulations to Yuurei who I know has been working on this for some considerable time, to the benefit of TTE.
o/ Arizona -
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[b][u][size="4"]THE TREATY OF CONSTANTINE THE GREAT[/size][/u][/b]
[u][b]Preamble[/b][/u]
The Legion and The Christian Coalition of Countries have demonstrated friendship and goodwill towards one another for some time. In doing so it is recognised that each alliance has a publicly stated policy of non-aggression without provocation. In this spirit of friendship and mutual values this treaty is written.
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Article One: Sovereignty and Religious Understanding[/b][/u]
Both of the signatory alliances and their respective member nations recognize and will respect each other's sovereignty and political independence. While the CCC is an alliance whose membership follows the Christian Faith, The Legion is a secular alliance whose membership is drawn from all faiths, and from none. The membership of both alliances will respect these differences.
[b][u]Article Two: Peaceful co-operation[/u][/b]
The signatories will develop good co-operation between them to ensure lasting security. They will refrain from espionage and the threat or use of force against each other and will settle all disputes between them by peaceful diplomatic means. Both signatory alliances shall be resolute in their insistence that their respective members remain polite and civil to each other at all times, especially in public forums and other public venues.
[u][b]Article Three: Communication[/b][/u]
In signing these protocols, both signatory alliances recognize that communication and Intelligence is the foundation for a strong and enduring relationship and that there is mutual benefit for both alliances when open communication and intelligence between them is maintained. To that end, both signatory alliances agree to productive two-way inter-alliance communication and the sharing of intelligence.
[u][b]Article Four: Defense[/b][/u]
This Provision hereby dictates that under any circumstances if either of the undersigned finds itself attacked by a foreign power, the opposite signatory to this agreement is, upon request, encouraged to join in war against the foreign aggressor. The attacked signatory of this agreement maintains the right to waive such assistance.
[u][b]Article Five: Cancellation[/b][/u]
Either signatory alliance may terminate this compact at any time by providing the other signatory alliance with a 48 hour notice of intent to terminate.
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[B]Signed for The Legion[/B]
/s/ Regent Pancras - Minister of Foreign Affairs
/s/ DanDesade - Minister of Internal Affairs
/s/ Roddney McCay - Minister of Economics
/s/ Tzar Rob - Minister of Defense
/s/ Alexander Kerensky - Imperator
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[B]Signed for the Christian Coalition of Countries[/B]
Chancellor: Shergzus
Vice Chancellor: Charmander
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Xander the Great
Minister of Defense: Les Paul Supreme
Minister of Internal Affairs: JesusFreak
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Just to confirm, Unknown Smurf has resigned from The Legion, however his AA hasn't been updated yet. He is no longer afforded the protection of The Legion though, so if any tech raiders out there want some of his 5,542.54 technology, his nation can be found [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=260793"]HERE[/url].
As far as The Legion is concerned, this matter is closed. -
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[quote name='TehChron' timestamp='1322297988' post='2852189']
Couldn't you have found a member of government to make this comment who hasn't been guilty of doing the same thing a number of times themselves?
Also: Smurf.
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Unknown Smurf is not a member of, nor does he speak on behalf of The Legion government. He is an idiot who does not know when to keep his mouth shut, and who decided to post a frankly imbecilic post on a subject he knows nothing about.
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FAIL who wants to be like OMFG/Gremlins/BN/Argent who wants to be like TORN/BAPS who want to be like NPO/Valhalla/Olympus who want to be like IRON/TOP [/quote]
This is totally undiplomatic language which as Minister of Foreign Affairs I am disgusted by. On behalf of The Legion Government I wish to offer an unreserved apology to any of the alliances insulted in Unknown Smurf's misguided attempt to be funny or shine the spotlight on himself. -
Always good to see friends getting on well with other friends! Congrats to both alliances.
o/ TLR
o/ Invicta -
o/ Grats Devo!
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Thanks Locke - I've got rid of 20 or so obsolete alliances already!
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I am reviewing the embassy list at avelegio.net and the following alliances embassies have not been used for some time. If you wish to retain an embassy at The Legion, please post updated contact information within the next 7 days, otherwise the embassy will be closed and ambassadors de-masked.
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Asgaard
[s]Equal Rights Alliance[/s]
[s]Fark[/s]
[s]Nueva Vida[/s]
Sparta
The Foreign Division
[s]Blackstone Commission[/s]
Green Protection Agency
United Sovereign Nations
East India Company
FOK
Independent Republic of Orange Nations
Nebula-X
Olympus
SNAFU
Valhalla
State of Unified Nations
Paragon
R&R
Many thanks
Regent Pancras
Minister of Foreign Affairs -
I would like to offer thanks for a good fight to all nations which I sparred with but in particular Heggo of NSO who I went 2 rounds with, TomSF and Varianz both NSO and BladeX and ali5541 of Tetris.
I would also like to thank our allies in NpO, Invicta, TLR, NADC, and UPN for their support during the conflict.
o/ Ave Legio -
[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1320082316' post='2835805']
You want them to surrender which at this point they don't want to do, I'm just saying that if you do, it will take longer before they do so.
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Well with respect, the ball is in their court on that score, and it is them and their allies who are asking us for peace talks. But I will point out our position again:
[quote name='RegentPancras' timestamp='1320079183' post='2835765']
The position of The Legion government is that we have no reason to continue this conflict any longer. We do not wish to hold either Tetris or NSO in perma-war. Our cause for war has been satisfied.
Tetris has lost 70% of it's pre-war NS, and NSO has lost over 60%. The Legion on the other hand has lost less than 40% of it's pre war NS. Of the 30 Tetris nations, 28 of them are either in Anarchy or Peace Mode (93%), and of the 104 NSO nations, 91 of them are in Anarchy or in Peace Mode (87%). Unless those alliances are going to take their nations out of Peace Mode, there is very little left for us to hit.
Looking at the facts, The Legion has done more damage to Tetris and NSO than has sustained from any of the combatants in this war so far, and by the standards of most casual observers has won. So we stand at a crossroads. We are reasonable and wish to show magnanimity in our victory, we have repeatedly said that we don't want any reps from NSO or Tetris, and we don't want an apology. All we have asked for is some kind of acknowledgement from them that they wish to surrender....
If NSO/Tetris is serious about peace, then we will sit down with them once more. Maybe we can accommodate a form of words which accurately reflects the situation which external observers seem to agree is what the outcome of this war is. If on the other hand, NSO/Tetris come to the table with the "White Peace - or we bring in allies" attitude, then that says more about them as an alliance then it does about us.
We are being reasonable, and wish to extend the olive branch if NSO/Tetris, so planet bob can move on, because winter is coming...
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If you are reading this as "The Legion are demanding NSO/Tetris surrender" then that is over simplifying the situation. We are saying we are willing to end hostilities. We are even willing to look at the exact form of words... -
[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1320080779' post='2835791']
If NSO are going to surrender, they would do so in their own time..... so if Legion want them to surrender then I believe it is going to take a lot longer than a month of fighting and granting white peace to 3 small alliances is hardly a victory (1 of which merged into NpO)
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You have clearly not read my last statement which sets out the position of The Legion government.
We do not want anything from NSO/Tetris, however they, and interested third parties keep asking us for peace talks, which invariably end like Groundhog day, when they demand us to offer white peace. I suggest you re-read my earlier statement which sets our position out. -
[quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1320045866' post='2835586']
So you have managed to go from pre-war boasting that NSO could take out Legion by yourselves to mid to end war trying to belittle and shoulder blame to your coalition mates as an excuse to hide your less than satisfactory performance.
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Quite. Who would have thought that the New Sith Order would resort to that kind of behaviour?
The position of The Legion government is that we have no reason to continue this conflict any longer. We do not wish to hold either Tetris or NSO in perma-war. Our cause for war has been satisfied.
Tetris has lost 70% of it's pre-war NS, and NSO has lost over 60%. The Legion on the other hand has lost less than 40% of it's pre war NS. Of the 30 Tetris nations, 28 of them are either in Anarchy or Peace Mode (93%), and of the 104 NSO nations, 91 of them are in Anarchy or in Peace Mode (87%). Unless those alliances are going to take their nations out of Peace Mode, there is very little left for us to hit.
Looking at the facts, The Legion has done more damage to Tetris and NSO than has sustained from any of the combatants in this war so far, and by the standards of most casual observers has won. So we stand at a crossroads. We are reasonable and wish to show magnanimity in our victory, we have repeatedly said that we don't want any reps from NSO or Tetris, and we don't want an apology. All we have asked for is some kind of acknowledgement from them that they wish to surrender.
On a number of occasions, we have been contacted either by NSO directly or interested third parties to broker peace. Yet every peace discussion ends with them demanding white peace, with the veiled threat that they will draw further allies in if we don't accede to these demands.
Throughout this war, we have done all we can to prevent a conflict which really only involves The Legion, Tetris and NSO from becoming global. If NSO/Tetris is serious about peace, then we will sit down with them once more. Maybe we can accommodate a form of words which accurately reflects the situation which external observers seem to agree is what the outcome of this war is. If on the other hand, NSO/Tetris come to the table with the "White Peace - or we bring in allies" attitude, then that says more about them as an alliance then it does about us.
We are being reasonable, and wish to extend the olive branch if NSO/Tetris, so planet bob can move on, because winter is coming... -
[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1319996834' post='2835107']
[color="#0000FF"]You pointed out that you were able to find most of them posted in public locations prior to the start of the war. [/color]
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Er, no. I pointed out that your contention that the screen shots had been circulating "for many months" was a lie, because one of the screen shots was only four days old.
In any event the age of the screen shots is a side issue. The point is, they were posted by the leader of the Tetris alliance, which has lead to them loosing ~2/3rds of their pre war NS. -
[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1319994909' post='2835082']
[color="#0000FF"]So you attacked Tetris for posting information that was already available?[/color]
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...Conveniently ignoring the evidence that I have already posted which proves this is not the case.
Keep taking your tablets RV. -
[quote name='Wu Tang Clan' timestamp='1319989443' post='2835044']
Those SS's were floating around far before Varianz showed them to Tetris.
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Were they? Can you actually substantiate that claim, or are you falling for RV's lies that they had been in circulation for months? If so I refer you to my earlier post which clears these lies from facts:
[quote name='RegentPancras' timestamp='1319960529' post='2834931']
Shall we check the 'facts' again, before they are accepted by all as 'facts'
This is one of the spied posts which Hereno placed on this site on September 24th 8.38pm (according to the timestamp in my time zone):
It was posted by Kivan on The Legion's website as the post shows on 20th September 4.36pm, which is four days, four hour and four minutes earlier. So how had this been circulating "for many months"? The 'facts' simply do not support your lies. There is no evidence to back up your claim that they had been 'circulating' anywhere except on our private forums.[/quote]
But I will repeat for you again as you are missing the point. We didn't go to war with Tetris for spying, we went to war because they had attacked our sovereignty by blatantly and knowingly re-posting spied material on these forums. As I said earlier, that Varianz has admitted to being complicit in this spying pleases us greatly because this justifies our continued war with NSO, while on the other hand we had no real issue with NsO, IAA and BTA who entered under treaty obligation.
As I said in that post, the position of The Legion government remains the same. We have made our point, and we are happy to end the war as soon as Tetris/NSO ask us to by surrendering. We seek no reps, apologies or anything else from them, which by most standards is very reasonable. If however Tetris wish to remain at war, they might have the decency to order the ~40% of nations which are in peace mode to engage with us, so we can continue this properly.
The decision rests with NSO and Tetris. -
[quote name='Wabooz' timestamp='1319943331' post='2834841']
I wish you guys would take those stats, shove them up your ass and just fight.
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I wish that the 1/3rd of the Tetris Alliance who sit in Peace Mode would enter the war to let us do just that... -
[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1319908553' post='2834520']
[color="#0000FF"]Yes, very good. You have discovered that he "supplied" information that had already been circulating [b]for many months[/b]. [/color]
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Shall we check the 'facts' again, before they are accepted by all as 'facts'
This is one of the spied posts which Hereno placed on this site on September 24th 8.38pm (according to the timestamp in my time zone):
[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1316918283' post='2807879']
[IMG]http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3573/2euscib.jpg[/IMG]
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It was posted by Kivan on The Legion's website as the post shows on 20th September 4.36pm, which is four days, four hour and four minutes earlier. So how had this been circulating "for many months"? The 'facts' simply do not support your lies. There is no evidence to back up your claim that they had been 'circulating' anywhere except on our private forums.
Anyway, quite frankly because you are so wrapped up in your lies RV, what you have to say on the matter is of little relevance to The Legion, or pretty much anyone else outside your close circle of friends.
In any event, this has all been discussed to the nth degree for the last few weeks - our CB for war was that Tetris knowingly posted spied information from The Legions private forums which was an attack on our sovereignty. That you decided to join in the war, and Varianz has admitted to his part in the matter is making us happy because we can (and have) attacked you for your misdeeds.
We are reasonable people and we feel that our point has been made eloquently now. We don't want anything else from you by way of Reps, Apologies or anything else - and will happily stop at the time when you ask us to. The ball is now firmly in the NSO/Tetris court. -
[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1319067277' post='2828869']
[color="#0000FF"]NSO left the war early? Two months of near continuous fighting is leaving early? We left out of frustration in dealing with you, and partly because we had given everything we had. Our nations were utterly demolish, and close to broke. Additionally our allies were about to be dog piled by a coalition, including GOD. Our continued participation would have achieved nothing, considering that Legion refused to fight. And no, sending out a few nation near they end, and only after it was made clear you would have to come out of peace mode to get peace, does not count. For two months you did nothing while NSO and others bled.[/color]
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RV, you are manipulating the 'facts' to suit your argument, instead of being truthful.
It is correct that Legion kept 30k+ NS nations in Peace Mode. It should however be born in mind that we entered the war to defend NPO and they also had their 30k+ NS nations in Peace Mode too. This was part of an agreed strategy.
Where you are wrong is the statement that "Legion refused to fight". Legion had very many nations at war from day one. Orders were for all sub 30k nations to engage, and we did so. Our agreed target with NPO was GOONS. We did devastating damage to GOONS and despite Doomhouse and C&G countering us, our strategy to assault GOONS worked. Ultimately our 30k+ nations left Peace Mode, while NPO's nations continued to stay in PM. We knew that ultimately we would always loose the war, because NPO and her allies couldn't muster anywhere near the numbers of supporting alliances which Doomhouse could muster.
So while we might never agree on which version of events were true when it boils down to the minutiae of strategy and planning, the facts are that the half of our alliance under 30k NS fought from day one, we suffered massive losses, just like NSO did, and our lower tier was still fighting long after NSO surrendered. You might also like to be reminded of the fact that our upper tier left Peace Mode before those in NPO did, by which time you had already started re-building having being out of the war for a good number of weeks. -
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