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Posts posted by Lysistrata
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I like my pride and arrogance. In fact, your words make me feel even more arrogant. You must've read, like, only two of my posts here. Do you even know who you're talking to? :D
Wow. The last time I heard that line was Reese Witherspoon trying to talk her way out of drunk driving... or was it Barack Obama to Benjamin Netanyahu? Doesn't matter, but in all cases it's inappropriate. I read more of the OWF than I post. I really don't like these boards very much at all. The way you talk to me... if you're not my wife, or one of my kids, I really don't care who you are.
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Your statement is terrible, and I do hope your Council doesn't share your views.
It may be terrible but the truth is sometimes hard to swallow.
There were negotiations on private channels. We gave them terms, they refused, so we continued fighting. We have enough dignity to deny our enemy the privilege of making a-lateral decisions on our behalf. A surrender comes with compliance to terms. It's that simple.
Also, for the record, I don't speak for the RIA gov. >_> The last time I was gov was during, like, the Unjust War.
Well good luck getting that "compliance", your dignity combined with arrogance and pride will get you... nowhere.
We are involved in coalition war and currently you're on the other side.
Best to stop crying, elawyering the treaty chain, and dance.
The governments will settle it all when the radiation levels improve.
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GPA are Libertarians... Diligently plotting to take over the world... and leave you alone.
Grats on your new government :)
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I don't know if this is a clumsy attempt at lowering yourself to Mogar's level: if not, since when an alliance surrendering ends a war? Could SNX or Polar give up and say "we're done" tomorrow and leave the fight, clean slate, no hard feelings? If that's the case I'll join IRON in accepting Polar's coalition surrender tomorrow, you guys know where my inbox is.
Let's be serious here. DBDC surrendering was a gift. RIA should have taken it. They didn't. They get smacked, and smacked by allies of DBDC. My advice if you don't want to be raided by DBDC... leave the alliance they have a problem with and join an alliance they don't have a problem with. Other than sweeping changes to the rules of the game, which will not happen... that is your only option. If not, live with the threat and quit whining. But that's just me I could be wrong.
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Somoza, I get the distinct impression that you do not understand why we attacked DBDC. We did not declare any war on DBDC for this coalition. We are continuing a war between our individual alliances from months ago that never formally ended.
http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Baldr_War
Several months ago, Baldr was raided by DBDC nations after we were told we would be taken off their raid list. When Baldr fought back, reprisals were made against Baldr's generals. War was then officially recognized by the RIA. After two weeks of war, the last DBDC nation in range, noob cake, bought his way out of range, forcing a stalemate. During the confrontation, DBDC posted a surrender that we neither negotiated nor accepted. When this coalition war caused a doombird to fall within our range, we went right back to where we left off. If you wish to come in on us in defense of AB, fine. If you want to attack RIA nations who haven't attacked AB nations, that's fine too. We won't begrudge you any of the wars you declare on us, because your primary reason for declaration, the defense of AB, is completely valid. But don't pretend that DBDC didn't have it coming, and that you're just defending a friend who got jumped. Your actions indicate a supportive stance on DBDC's tech raids, and that's what would form my opinion of GLOF.
I am still waiting for noob cake to make good on his threat from months ago, the one in my sig.
Okay lemme get this straight... DBDC posted a surrender (which I saw)... which means they will not be attacking you anymore. That is not a negotiation. They just did it. You continued to attack them? If so, that makes you the aggressor and in open war with an IRON ODoAP partner. Last time I checked an ODoAP treaty trumps a FAP. Is this the road you really wish to take?
This is how I'm interpreting this... please correct me if I'm wrong, and I do not speak for IRON Council. Just want to understand.
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Yes, I see what you mean. I consider myself lucky to get through the lower tiers without running into your foot.
Now see if you can do the same and get to the upper tiers without running into mine.
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Except in wartimes everyone else is down there too, and I regularly declare 3 offensive wars, along with multiple defensive wars, 1v5/6 is a bit different than 3v1.
I get it... you're a big foot chasing down an ant trail. A big foot can crush 5 or 6 ants at the same time, no problem.
Much better than trying to step on another foot. You might say that DBDC does exactly what you do... just not on the new guys.
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Good Luck to our very good friends, GLoF.
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Well that's a great artistic vision of how you wish it turns out, but allow me to grant you the clear focus of reality.
Picture 300 barely dressed men grasping sharp spears and shields. Descending from above are well placed incediaries.
The Warrior, Blade, and the rest of IRON Council are munching on sandwiches and beer.
When they no longer smell burning flesh... you hear the order... "Okay now guys".
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Well, you see Monster of Energy, we're abandoning ship. These are tough times.
Straight up cancelling our treaty, and high tailing it out of here. Sparta are a good lot and were equal in their commitment to our mutual allies desires in the previous major conflict...but with such overwhelming odds it's time to throw in the towel. Gotta know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em, know when to read hartfw's comics, and know when to run as they say. Besides this whole war has nothing in it for us besides these guys, why would we put our pixels on the line when we could sit, maybe fight one round of war, collect taxes and requisition tech?
You see, we figured we'd take a page out of the playbook of some of the greatest diplomatically inclined alliances of our world today.
Instead of waiting a few weeks before a major war to start ditching our brothers in arms, steadfast allies and twisting knives in peoples backs, we'd figure we'd wait and cancel a few hours before it.
We have our reasons, mostly to do with Yeru's use of the word kvetch in another thread, the questionable german origin of a certain Adder of Death. The most feckless of excuses for terminating a treaty before a global war -- "Leadership turnover," was cited because of the transition between DA and Yeru. We figured we'd maximize the effect of pulling out by waiting until everyone jostling to get their treaty chains in order finished lining people up just to see the reaction of those planning to assail IRON after this war not having to face an additional alliance.
So long story short there was no same-night counter because there wouldn't be a requirement for one.
Either the above or because waiting up every night since early November gets old.
But probably one of the two.
Yeah, but can you say that with a Sean Connery accent?
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For FTW and all our allies... we bleed together.
To our most worthy Sparta, much respect. Play nice.
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Taylor has something in common with ODN, that Miley does not... Class. Good choice.
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We sign treaties with people we like, sometimes people we like are friends with A******S, sometimes A******S get attacked
It's not complicated, stop trying to make it more than it is
Priceless.
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What a great way to escalate hostilities. Good luck ODN.
PS: Bring home ice cubes... we're running low.
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Too many friends here to list. Good luck to all of you. You know who you are.
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Well winter has finally arrived and the forecast is in... it will be an early thaw.
Stay warm NG, and shoot straight.
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Good Luck to our Argent ally... don't have to much fun out there, we'll never get you to stop smiling.
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Good luck to my orange brothers... and have fun
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DBDC has a wall of stone... here they carve the famous last words of the many unfortunate ones.
Most of them say... "There is no reason to attack us."
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tfl;dr... but whatever it is... congrats to our allies, and the allies of our allies.
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It would be a bonus if the admin would rig this forum for the type size to show up smaller for how tiny the nation is.
Some of the loudest would need a magnifying glass to read the drivel.
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Well you know you did something right when it makes all the right people angry... but is anyone really shocked and surprised?
NPO and IRON have been allies forever, and anyone that hates this treaty has no good intentions for NPO or IRON.
Like TB said... "Congrats to our allies, and the allies of our allies. Solid treaty."
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This makes me feel all warm and fuzzy... oh wait, that's just radiation.
Things just getting back to normal. Move along, there's nothing to see here.
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Thank you Sir... that made my day.
For Real DoW, I Checked
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My advice had nothing to do with IRON fighting against the odds for honor. My advice was to join an alliance DBDC doesn't have a problem with instead of getting raided by them. That's all. Nothing to do with bending over or running away from anyone. This place loves to take what people say and twist into what they want to hear... and then turn it back into them. Sorry not playing that game. The game does not prohibit anyone from getting attacked. We do that ourselves with words like honor, treaty, optional, and DoW. When DBDC is prohibited by the game to not declare war on anyone they can reach... then you have an arguement. Until then, I see nothing wrong with what they do.