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[quote name='Ashoka the Great' timestamp='1282023361' post='2418943']
So you're not asking for allies' help and you'll be handling this on your own?
Oh God....it's way too soon for history to repeat itself....
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Why would they need to ask for help. If \M/ attacks them(GGA) well then i guess they don't need to ask for help. That's what them treaty's are for -
Good Show STA
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[quote name='Deathistan' timestamp='1281720384' post='2414497']
So what you're saying is that this could potentially be an attempt by NSO, to create more BS?
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Perhaps i don't know, all i am saying is for MK to jump into this curbstomp after what STA has had to say about this already. would be a slap in the face of STA. And(I) think it would be the start of a new Karma War. Not right away but it would start the ball rolling that way. If STA jumped to NSO side who would go with them.
Understand i don't know many people in STA or NSO for that matter its just what i would think would happen. Forcing STA to jump ship would be a bad thing for our side is all i am saying. I don't see anyone else jumping into this on ROKS side or NSO side. But back to what you asked i am sure that some on the other side that would love MK to (slap) STA. -
[quote name='Ashoka the Great' timestamp='1281714974' post='2414398']
Although if it happens enough times, I suppose MK might consider it to be an 'invitation to the party', so to speak. Just not in the manner suggested earlier. (If some folks think it's a 'pile-on' [i]now[/i]....)
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Not going to happen MK would already be in this if it was not for STA, Jumping on NSO even more so at this point in time my bet is they would lose that allie -
[quote name='tamerlane' timestamp='1281715897' post='2414422']
Im saying that you are stretching the definition of aggressor to its extreme by claiming that he was "defending" himself from something that did not cause him any harm. INconvenience? yes. Harm? No. IN essence, this entire debate is hyperbole in motion.
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And NSO's aid to him in its self did harm? Your reaching spy attacks are not OK someone spy's on me i would be more then happy to make them glow green. The point is ROK don't care none of this matters at this point. It happened there is no turning back all we can hope for is peace in the end. And that we don't see a new Karma. -
Good Luck ICAN
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Congrats
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[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1281643115' post='2413113']
He didn't lie from what I saw. He just didn't tell everything. I filled in the blanks and they saw that maybe they needed to analyze the new info before making a decision. Loyalty to you probably wasn't the reason they backtracked. They probably backtracked because they wanted to check out the added info before coming to a final decision because an ally at least deserves due consideration. They were willing to give it to you after everything was brought up. We just got screwed by that law. What more can I say really.
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Umm if we did not vote to do it in the first place. The law would not have mattered ? Did they just change the vote to say they did. And before they ever did had a clue the law would stop them from changing it. -
I don't think there will be terms. Its going to be a endless war or white peace. NSO knows they can't beat them. But can be a pain if you have 20 NSO nations with nukes setting around 1k NS well any and all new nations in any of the alliance's at war with them are unsafe. I know if i was running NSO that's how it would be. That,s the thing about the gang on one alliance war. Your going to drop there NS fast what are you going to do drop down a bunch of your members to keep the nuke nations of NSO in check or are you going to let your young members pay the price. And if you do drop them what price is your alliance paying to do so.
I understand both sides of this and hope they can find white peace. -
Good luck and welcome to Bob
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O/RV I can't wait too see what this brings
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anyone?
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Happy B-day o/ Tetris i have heard nothing but good things about you guys. Go Green
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Way to go O/pink
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Welcome to Bob wish you the best in growing your alliance.
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Well i do not know GGA all that well. I am sorry to see you guys disband bye GGA i wish you all the best in where ever your travels take you.
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Lost one of the Members in this this trade Circle(Nation deleted) rest of us is active. Contact me if you would like to join thanks http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=373266
Aluminum, prettypanda
Gold, MAgnum9987
Iron, Tungsten
Lumber, regina caritas mundi
Lead, MAgnum9987
Oil, allen demary
Rubber, regina caritas mundi
Water, prettypanda
Wheat, Tungsten
Uranium. allen demary
Like i said we need Coal and Marble. -
Congrats that's a fine treaty
O/ICAN
O/BACoN
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[quote name='Thrash' date='22 July 2010 - 05:20 PM' timestamp='1279837193' post='2384909']
So, I take it WF has stopped raiding? What brought that change about? You guys raided like mad back not too long ago.
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I am not sure i know there has been a wF rule change about raiding. But i dont talk for wF just my self. And i am/was always getting on WF tech raiders. -
[quote name='ktarthan' date='22 July 2010 - 05:32 PM' timestamp='1279837929' post='2384926']
A nation in GOONS raided once and did not make a profit. Thus, raiding is not profitable. You must have incredibly long legs to make such a leap.
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[quote name='ktarthan' date='22 July 2010 - 05:08 PM' timestamp='1279836516' post='2384884']
Gosh, thanks for the advice. None of us had ever thought of this before. We definitely have not, over a significant period of time, observed the general trends of the results of tech raiding, and percieved it to be generally profitable over the long run using smart raiding tactics. We also have not, over this period of time, devised tools and strategies to make tech raids as profitable as possible while avoiding scenarios as you have outlined above.
Nope, definitely not.
Edit: grammar
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I was raided when i first started and i had about 20 tech.And one of the two happened to be a goon member. I know he made no money off me. You can talk about devised tools and strategies but that don't change the fact you can't control the person being raided. How can you avoid someone turtleing buying CM's and not taking peace? What you should be saying is must dont have a clue nor try to fight back so its easy money. -
[quote name='mrwuss' date='22 July 2010 - 04:26 PM' timestamp='1279833968' post='2384810']
Growth is not my primary goal, but I doubt, if compared in a percent based equation, you have made more than me.
I do the same tech deals, I don't buy the tech. I take the tech and get to keep a much larger percent of the money. My trading has been full since my nation was born.
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Growth is mine as of now want to be a big nation. You do buy the tech in the price of tanks and troops and Infra when they fight back. I worked it out a bit back i will see if i can find it.But its something like this, If your over the 200 Infra mark and the person has 20 or under tech all the the person that your raiding has to use is like 5 or 6 Cruise Missiles and you don't make any money. Not a dime so is there a point in that unless like 4 out of 5 don't fight back i just can't see it.
A little pointer if your being tech raided turtle let your troops die don't replace them. Buy as many Cruise Missiles as you can and make them pay for your tech.The last thing a tech raider wants to get into is lets drop each others chart war. Oh and keep as many aircraft as you can. Unless you think that you can take them. But if its someone like GOONS ect just do the above plan becuse they will get back up -
[quote name='mrwuss' date='22 July 2010 - 03:15 PM' timestamp='1279829724' post='2384720']
Only people who live under an oppressive leadership think tech raiding is stupid, because they can't experience it personally.
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Bull i have seen tech raiders older then my nation that are half as big as me. All it takes is one guy that fights back that knows what he is doing. When that 20 tech your after costs you 2Mil in Infra it seems a little backwords to me. I did do one not needed (War) and felt bad so sent peace and stoped attacking him.
That was the first and last time. I am newish to the game but from what i have seen from tech raiders in my own alliance if anything it holds you back. Now if tech raiding is what it takes to keep you in the game i guess thats alright. But overall i am a anti tech raider far as pushing people out of the game well my bet is most of them did not like the game in the first place. I bet you anything the two that tried to raid me made no money when i first started. If anything they lost a tons of it. Well back to the point i bet anything i made more money off 3/50 tech deals then you have made of tech raiding.
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I think STA jumped the gun my self should have waited. But the point remains that it is done now what the heck is \M/ going to do about it. Other then set in here and cry about it. MM talked and talked said he was going to attack GGA and then said he was going to attack STA. And STA did something about it. Now its your turn \M/