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[quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1292834858' post='2546277']
I can say that I'm protecting anything I like, but it's not actually protected unless I go and protect it.
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I agree. I'm just stating that by their own actions, they have set the precedent that it is ok to hit "protected" nations that are not an alliance. -
Did you punish your members for raiding red? It was a protected area, as stated by a group of alliances.
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[quote name='jonte' timestamp='1292833556' post='2546248']
Two iFOK nations had raids out on Red at the time. iFOK never made a comment in regards to Red Safari - either condoning nor condemning it.
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I might add that PC had one raid on Red according to the wiki.
Considering these are two tech raiding alliances with more than 200 members I wouldn't call that participating.
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Look at the numbers of the other participants. It's around the same size and amount. You also remained allied to those that participated on a larger scale, showing tacit approval. -
[quote name='JT Jag' timestamp='1292833556' post='2546250']
For the record, a nation on none, in a one-man AA or or in a small unaligned micro alliance is not necessarily the same thing as recognized alliance with ties to several larger recognized alliances--- ties that have not yet expired, mind you--- that happened to close up shop.
The sequence of events here is quite important. DF had protection before NEW attacked them. Meanwhile, NPO and Red Dawn were attempting to resolve incidents with nations that had absolutely no bearing on them after the fact simply because they happened to share a color.
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According to Dark Fist itself, it is no longer an alliance. You cannot have a treaty with a non-entity. Therefore, it is a one sided protection offered by INT and TPE. It was not out of necessity to defend a treaty partner. Dark Fist was below the number of members to be recognized as an alliance, a convention which was created by tech raiders. TPE and INT no longer were required to resolve the incidents. Previous actions taken by both PC and iFOK show this. You also remain allied to people that have attacked Micro alliances that were larger then Dark Fist as at the time of the incident. The only difference between a micro and Dark Fist is that Dark Fist claimed to no longer be an alliance.
*edit* Sorry, didn't realize I was responding to a different person. GOONs has hit alliances larger then Dark Fist. *end edit* -
The CN wiki of the incident has multiple nations of iFOK shown as having participated.
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iFOK was involved during the Red Safari, which was to test the NPO and Red Dawns ability to protect non-aligned nations on their sphere.
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Ardus, according to previous actions taken by both PC and iFOK, NEW was not the aggressor. During the Red Safari, PC and iFOK both claimed that you cannot protect things that are not alliances. Dark Fist, by it's own statement, was no longer an alliance.
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So if you don't need to defend it, what was the red safari?
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True friendships don't end, but Dark Fist sure did.
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It's too bad. I expected with your leadership they would last forever.
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[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1292047819' post='2536162']
If those 3 people have SDIs nuking them daily will eat up that one person's nuclear stockpile in a matter of days.
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Not if you have my SDI. -
KM left me the best message on facebook ever around the time of the GPA war.
[quote]I think you are horrible. You take a stupid game way too seriously and you ruin it for a lot of people. You don't even ruin it for a reason. You make me sick.[/quote]
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[quote name='Lord Curzon' timestamp='1291083314' post='2526194']
I think the days of Pacifican machinations are long over, and to be frank, if we believed that you were wasting the tiny political capital you have on undermining our security, we’d be in heaven. Not only would it imply we were relevant enough to merit scheming, but it would also mean we might get the great pleasure of destroying Pacifican infrastructure.
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You can't do too much damage in the one day before you give up. -
[quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1289892603' post='2514333']
War against GPA.
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It's almost like you are skipping all the other reasons for war, including various OOC attacks done by Valid. The war wasn't over the edits. The war was over GPA hiding putting him back into government. -
I am disappointed in this move. Why am I not the new Emperor? I gave you my resume, I waited in line. Hell, I even slept with Hoo.
This is ridiculous. (good luck in retirement) -
I like this move. Congrats to all involved
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[quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1289422882' post='2509611']
See, this is a case where Alterego flubbed his remark and wound up lobbing the ball to you, giving you plenty of time to set up a return from any angle you wanted. Instead you took your racket and hit yourself in the face.
Is MK just bored and looking for a new challenge by turning their much vaunted propaganda machine against themselves? The level of competent spin control going on has shot so far down I expect it to pop out of Dilber's floor any minute now. Get your act together.
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Hey, I needed a new propoganda machine. Mine was broken. Thanks for stopping it Delta
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[quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1289375358' post='2509181']
Personally, I figure out who I agree with on the OWF by evaluating the facts of the situation and then applying logic to it.
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I start holding my breath when I begin reading, and whatever I am reading when I am forced to take a breathe I argue with. -
[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1289375015' post='2509169']
The thing that damaged the reputation of your alliance was your demand of 15M and 250T for a canceled trade. RV going public did not cause this situation. There would be no public furore if there were no demands. See how that works?
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But...you see...NPO did worse! We aren't them. We are just! -
It's fun Hoo.
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I have a student in one of my classes named "Coconuts".
China disagrees with you. -
I own a flag too
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To be fair, KDII has been terrible every year. He did the worst impersonation of me that I've ever seen.
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Holy !@#$.
I approve of this.
Hail Random.
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[quote name='JT Jag' timestamp='1292834889' post='2546280']
No, we didn't, because we didn't recognize NPO's sovereignty over an entire color sphere.
But that's another issue entirely.
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NEW didn't recognize the sovereignty of TPE and INT over an entirely seperate AA.