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I believe we also just asked some questions about another current NoV recruiter earlier tonight.
Maybe he does not know that 1488 means "14 words" and 88 means "Heil Hitler."
But it is curious that he links his name offsite as 14xxxxx88. And uses that account to post pics on nordenverein.com, as a NoV recruiter.
Come on guys, this is not that hard.
Perhaps, perhaps not. We do not check photobucket accounts as they are OOC. I do not see him bringing any of his possible values in game, which, according to Slayer, is why we were attacked and SoM was not. Do you?
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No, that's not the point at all. SoM didn't bring it back in game. That's the major difference. Re-read the logs from my chat with NoV leadership from back in November. They solicited my opinion and I told them major changes would need to be made. They were in the brink of war at that time...they also KNEW they were on a short leash on PB after escaping destruction for the 2nd time. The issue is things didn't change.
I beg to differ. As zeppelin stated, we expelled or did not allow at least 5 people to join NoV. In addition, no more posts on any WN forums have been seen with the single exception of Njord. All the ones you quoted were before the "chat" and they were all expelled.
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How could you NOT know...it was plastered all over his wiki page? Oh, you weren't really looking.
Sorry? We messed up on one guy? Do you honestly think that if we had found that wiki first we would have kept him? That would have been pure idiocy.
Also, way to ignore the rest of my post.
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Yes, you've kicked out the obvious ones or those we brought to you. Congrats. It's real hard to pick out 1488 from a name. I'd review the logs from our chat in November. I told you what needed to happen after you had a ton of treaties dropped and were in the brink of war after the KM "Hitlarious" comment...yet you still have a number of WS in your alliance recruiting from WS sites and vice versa.
How does that happen I wonder?
Actually most of the screenshots you used in your DoW were from people we expelled around the time or our chat or before, with the exception of Njord, who we did not know about.
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Is it perfectly normal to accept unaligned members with open wars?
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Is it perfectly normal to have members registered on your forums who don't fly your AA?
Can't see how this is an easy "case" in either question.
Okay, fine, that specific case was not normal. He just did not have our AA in his nation's AA for some reason, but he was a membe r. I think he was just retarded and had neglected to put NoV in his AA. Sorry? It appears that situation was settled immediately after that. I still don't get what the problem is.
Anyways, this is still unrelated to your accusation. I have yet to see any proof that would make it truth.
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Those logs are perfectly authentic. They are also normal. That is standard procedure for all types of these situations, lol. It's as if you attacked him and then we accepted him. I would have made you pay reps if he had had his AA as NoV, which he didn't so I just asked that you declare peace. I'm pretty sure that's how it works and has always worked.
Not sure what the issue is with that.
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the chat logs from 48 hours ago- sounds like spying to me as how would TPF have access to government channels which is usually secured especially against an alliance they are at war with. and so now you are admitting that TPF does have a spy. how nice.
I believe he was speaking hypothetically doch.
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I probably still have these logs, and can search for them.
Funny though, how we already see the pre-fabricated objections:
1. Docarteigh noted they would be too old and irrelevant and
2. You don't remember it.
3. Anyone can fake logs
I am just telling people here how this started from my perspective in TPF. There is much better evidence, but all I keep hearing is NO PROOF!" every time we post proof. Or the proof is too old!
How about proof from one month ago, is that fresh enough?
Or does it have to be from chat logs within the past 48 hours showing how your gov already is planning your comeback?
I said I don't remember the specific instant of you asking me about the one nation. I've dealt with hundreds of these rogue situations, I'm sorry if I can't remember one that occurred a year ago. Doesn't seem to have that big of a deal with your accusation anyway. I don't see how defending an unaligned nation, even if I did do that, which I doubt, means that I was involved in a conspiracy to reroll racists.
The age of the proof is irrelevant as long as it still applies. The vast amount of proof that TPF has shown does not apply because we long ago expelled all of the members you quoted on those SF forums.
You haven't even shown any proof of this conspiracy to re-roll nations either. You say there is better evidence.... yet I see none.
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Rather convenient, Geopet. This is by far the most serious accusation I have seen yet, but I have not once seen it before, or heard anything remotely close to it. This may have to do with the fact that such a "plot" does not exist. You have virtually no proof of this accusation, and if you did I would think that would have showed it a long time ago, or at least included it in the DoW, as it is quite a serious accusation. I find it rather convenient that you suddenly bring it up now.
Also, lol, that unaligned nation comment is funny. I honestly can't say that I remember that situation at all. Please enlighten me?
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I was joking.
How dare you use sarcasm and/or joking on the internet. :angry:
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Good luck.
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WOAH NOES!
You still have a long way to go, we'll catch ya.
It appears someone did not see this
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I would like to thank TGE for their cooperation with us in this matter in assuring a beneficial and peaceful future for all Germanic alliances.
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lol, 6 months later, seriously? I would think the moment to respond to such a document would perhaps be right when it comes out, not months after it has been forgotten by most all except you. But, I do suppose I'm not always correct.
I also find it rather unfortunate that TGE has made no attempt to ask about this via private channels, and instead has simply posted this rather obvious confrontational statement.
Note: Not official Norden Verein Response. My own.
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Nice try. We all know that you were subliminally drawn to our flag because of it's level of sexiness. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Indeed, this man speaks the truth.
We have no problem with it, it's all good.
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A Mutual Defense Pact between Norden Verein and the Knights of the Imperial Cross
Preamble:We, the representatives of the undersigned allied nations of Planet Bob, in order to form a stable organization, ensure peace and security, and extend a sphere of benevolent influence among the other nations of the world, do hereby establish this mutual treaty of military and fiscal aid.
Article I: Mutual Defense
Any declaration of war upon a member of either alliance is considered an act of aggression to the undersigned member alliances. Peace will only be offered through mutual consent of the alliances represented by the undersigned; and only accepted under the same terms. Diplomatic channels will remain open in the event that a declaration of war by an outside alliance is an unsanctioned operation.
Article II: Mutual Aggression
If circumstances prevail that may cause either alliance to declare war upon an outside party, a confidential summit of leaders from each of the undersigned shall be held in order to arrive at a formal agreement. Assistance in this case is not obligatory, but it should be considered by both parties.
Article III: Espionage
Neither alliance may directly participate in espionage of any type, regardless of situation and target. If either one of the undersigning alliances conducts espionage on the other signatory, this pact will be revoked immediately following a 24-hour truce. If either alliance bound to this pact conducts espionage on a non-signing alliance, it is grounds for revocation, but such action may or may not be taken by the other signatories leaders.
Article IV: Termination
This treaty shall only be terminated if either undersigned alliance chooses to exit this treaty or if Article III is found to be violated by a member alliance. If one of the undersigned chooses to terminate this pact, they must give 48 hours notice before the treaty is officially dissolved in which they remain fully bonded to the provisions contained therein.
The Undersigned do agree to respect and adhere to the Articles written above, both in the spirit and letter in which they are written.
Norden Verein:
Reichskaiser Striderwannabe
Volksführer Emperor B
Volksführer Vinzent Zeppelin
Reichsleiter Ludwig Erhard
Reichsleiter UnLimited
Reichsleiter PuliSher
Reichsleiter Homer
Reichsleiter Melos
Knights of the Imperial Cross:
Patriot89 of xUnited Statesx Triumvir of KIX
aka ninjacore of MLGninjacore Triumvir of KIX
KingSpanKaimen of KingKaimen Triumvir of KIX
Senate Members of KIX
Ministers of KIX
Yes, the inclusion of cute mini flags was completely necessary.
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well, change in plans yet again. If you guys want, I can hop right back into this deal as soon as I get out of hippie mode, which is on the 21st. sound good?
Edit: In fact, levent, I'll handle it myself, see who can and can't do it with me. Don't worry about it.
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Best EVER.
It's about dang time you guys are doing this, but once the winner is decided, who to we gawk at next wondering who would beat who?
Stop worrying about the next one and focus on the one happening now, lol. -
You're right. This post did wonders for their PR.
Yes, but still not a reason to hate them.
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And SoM has more enemies than TPF, The Continuum, or RoK.
The only one of which that has reasonable justification for is GOD.
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Such a good announcement, and so true.
Except for the fear part. You would have increased your support tenfold if you had left that out.
Indeed... It only serves to distract people from the main message of the topic....
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I sincerely apologize, but surrounding circumstances have forced me to pull out of this deal. Sorry. :/
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1) I don't even recall you being in the top 10 of NoV, much less single-handedly destroying us. If you'd like to try though, be my guest.
2) MDC, ONOS, ManOWarriors, Neuva Vida, Wolfpack, and FEAR also declared on us. Good going ignoring that part though.
Good to see you making informed statements. If only Weiss was the standard for NoV members, not the exception, others might think more highly of them. Instead, we get this belligerent stupidity.
Edit: Forgot ONOS & Wolfpack.
Hobbies was a member of PLUS during that war, he joined NoV about three days ago.
This kind of "who fared better" argument is rather pointless and offtopic. Both alliances were engaged with lots of other alliances and it is useless and stupid to determine who "won" the individual war, especially if you base it off of our current strengths.
But anyways, yes, back to wolfpack. I hope a proper solution will be found as soon as possible in order to ensure a quick end to this war.
Statement from the Norden Verein
in Open World Forum
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An in-game recruiter for an in-game alliance. Why would we? Everyone knows the rules, recruiting from any WN forum will instantly get you expelled and ZI'd.