The Crimson King
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[quote name='OsRavan' timestamp='1296541456' post='2614311']
Honestly though, does it really matter? Are you bringing up Bi-Polar because you actually think my earlier post explaining why the terms were written was wrong? Or as an attempt to try and deflect attention from the point I was making?
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The reason I am bringing it up is because ODN was very vocal during that war that MK were innocent bystanders who received a raw deal by being declared on in an uninvolved conflict. This was the position of your gov during that time, and one that I have yet to see anyone from the current ODN govt disagree with.
So in essence it was not made to deflect attention form anything you wrote. You began with the absolute statement that ODN views this preempt as a related conflict. This is contrary to the stance you as an alliance have taken previously in relation to preemptive attacks. So basically everything you said after that statement is worthless unless you can explain how this situation differs from your stance in Polar.
So yes, it really does matter if you expect anyone to view anything you wrote as something more than "it's ok when my friends do it" -
[quote name='OsRavan' timestamp='1296540207' post='2614243']
*WE* view it as one war with two fronts.
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YOU also viewed TOP's pre-empt in Bi-polar as a totally separate war.
So would you care to expand on your logic on how that was a separate war, but yet this pre-empt is a related conflict? -
[quote name='PopCap' timestamp='1296540057' post='2614233']
Tetris, and GDA both agree not to rejoin the NpO-VE or the NPO-Doomhouse conflict including not sending aid to those involved in those two conflicts.
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So UINE wins? -
Happy hunting guys
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Best of luck guys
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[quote name='Derwood1' timestamp='1296103255' post='2604387']
People have been killing your other ally for a week and now you finally decide to stop hugging the infra. How does it feel STA to not be as important as NPO?
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Just like your fine allies in Goons MK and Umb have left you to take a beating for the past week while they waited around to pursue their own agenda? How does it feel PC to not be as important as NPO?
Now can we dispense with this ridiculous argument... -
I have waited long for this day, just so HoT would stop querrying me
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Go get em boys
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Someone forgot the obligatory metal lyrics
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Prevail
"Went to hell
Everybody ends up dead
It's just a matter of when"
Prevail!
Trapped in a web of lies
I'll never seen the truth
When they stare me in the eyes
Death to the ones who betrayed
Every single chance
That I give every day
Break all the chains that bind
All these things are lost in the cries
Break everything that will come
The chance to over come
Never seen the face of defeat
Never felt the cries of the weak
When everyone sought out surrender
This
I will rise in the end
Sever the souls that bled
I will be discouraged
And turn it into rage
Prevail, the time has come
Crush the enemy, one by one
Prevail, like a venomous snake
Ready to strike and dominate
Prevail, we conquer as one
Pound the enemy, 'till it's done
Prevail!
What doesn't kill you
Makes you stronger
And bigger
What has to be
hate quicker
And faster
I turned these tables around
And wait to break you down
I want to feel
This pain will
Trapped in a web of lies
I'll never seen the truth
When they stare me in the eyes
Death to the ones who betrayed
Every single chance
That I give every day
Break all the chains ties that bind
All these things are lost in the cries
Break everything that will come
The chance to overcome
Never seen the face of defeat
Never felt the cries of the weak
When everyone sought out surrender
I will rise in the end
Sever the souls that bled
I will be discouraged
And turn it into rage
Prevail, the time has come
Crush the enemy, one by one
Prevail, like a venomous snake
Ready to strike and dominate
Prevail, we conquer as one
Pound the enemy, 'till it's done
Prevail!
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Lets kick some ass gentlemen -
[quote name='Stewie' timestamp='1295881711' post='2596591']
oh, I didn't realise that is how MDoAPs worked.. I thought if you were attacked by anyone the treaties were activated
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Then perhaps you should have defended NEW a few weeks back when they were attacked
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This is a great day.
I cannot state how pleased we are to be able to have not only mended these bridges, but to be working together to blaze a new path together. -
Best of luck Daks, I am sure you will do well
Congrats -
RodRod in gov? This will not end well
Seriously though, good to see this chapter finally come to a close.
We had a good rivalry going and it was fun. You guys have some real quality members over there and I really do wish you the best of luck on the rebuild and the changes going forward and hope to see you back stronger than ever.
Now lets hit the pub.
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Happy hunting guys
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[quote name='rodrod' timestamp='1288838528' post='2501468']
You had 6. Muadib was over 2k, and he's now burning and Strakland was also above 2k. So do you not look at the actual stats before you post garbage like that?
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Strak was the 4th I was referring to in that post (now at 1,896 NS). You are correct on Muadib however, but if countering my argument with one single nation that had no nukes and has been nuked down by you is the best you can come up with then so be it.
I would of at least hoped you might have addressed my other points, but I suppose you are still busy trying to find that other 3,800 NS still
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[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1288832419' post='2501384']
I tip my hat off to Hell Patrol, they just got done fighting a war and actually have out anarchied a bigger AA (Abyss) which also had the blitz advantage. You have OP's respect for what it is worth
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Thank you for the kind words -
[quote name='rodrod' timestamp='1288827733' post='2501318']
But I can say that us in the top tier are doing quite well. You now only have 3 nations above 2k NS. And they won't be there much longer.
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Do you even bother to look at stats before you post garbage like this?
Again this appears that you are patting yourself on the back for your expert work on our 2k plus nations. I mean we only have 3 left right? Sounds real impressive.
Well that is until you realize we had a total of 4 of them when the war started. So yeah, in 3 days of wars you managed to take a total of ONE 2k plus nation down to 1,896 NS. Real impressive.
This is similar to the garbage you have been tossing around about gaining NS thus far. On just 4 of those inactive ghost nations I pulled up you had a growth total of 6,322 NS today due to them jumping. You gained 2,521 NS today according to your stat sheet. Care to explain where the other 3,801 NS went to? -
[quote name='KOwens06' timestamp='1288760858' post='2500631']
Uh oh looked like you guys are hurting their feelings, keep it up!
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Careful what you post KO, he may be coming for you next -
[quote name='rodrod' timestamp='1288731682' post='2500095']
Wow, you can't argue your points so you attack my grammar. Clearly you are the most classy person here and your opinions are correct because you payed attention to what you typed. /sarcasm
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Actually I have no issue arguing my points. If you want to go back and address the first point I made in response to yours then feel free, or just continue to ignore it. Fine by me either way.
In fact most people have done a fine job of making their points in this thread. It seems that you are the one having difficulty grasping what others are trying to say even though the points made so far have been quite simple.
A) This is a down-declare: Try as you might there is really no way to argue against this. You declared on an AA with approx 1/2 of your existing membership, 60% of your pre-build up NS and with 1/3rd of the amt of nations over 2k NS and in nuke range that you had, and an AA that was one day removed from another war. Do we care...no not at all. We are certainly not crying about it, however what we will continue doing is calling out your attempts to spin this as a fair and evenly matched war from the outset for the BS that it is. No one wants to hear you crying about your ghosts. As someone else already pointed out, if you have them then bust them. But if you think coming here and saying your inability to keep your own house in order is going to score you points on the argument that this was an evenly matched war, then you may have another thing coming.
B.) So far your showing in this war has been borderline abysmal: Given the numbers advantage that you possessed that I outlined above, you should have had a much better initial showing then what you have mustered. Out of a 41 man AA you managed to have 7 nations show up for a blitz. Perhaps you consider a 17% turnout for a first night blitz in the first war of a cycle an impressive showing, but I doubt you will find most people hailing that. Conversely you had over 40% of your AA still in Defcon 5 at the time of the declaration. Given the fact that you were the aggressors and had days to plan this, one would assume you would have at least been able to get your members into a proper defcon state before declaring. Must have been all those pesky ghosts. You managed to place 6 guys in anarchy, while having 2x that number of your nations put in. You had days to plan your initial blitz, yet in a matter of 8 hrs we managed a counter offensive that dwarfed your initial run on our nations. And yet you are still out here trying to claim that you are somehow killing us by using such gems of logic like this:
[quote name='rodrod' timestamp='1288733952' post='2500127']
I'll have you notice that The Abyss has grown in NS, while Hell Patrols had lost NS. Why is this?
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Well it certainly has nothing to do with the reason you gave. Last time I checked every alliance has an NS spike on the first day of war. Conversely we were just coming off a war and all of our guys were already maxed on military because of this. So yes, your nations hit their 2 week bonus, collected, and bought a lot of military before attacking. I suppose congrats are in order for this amazing feat you have accomplished.
In the end the real conundrum you managed to create for yourself is this. If you do manage to win this war then no one will hail you for it because of the reasons outlined in section A above. What it looks like is you are still butthurt over how you failed miserably last cycle at using Kodiak to create drama and only succeeded in making a fool of yourself. So to make up for it you ran back to the Abyss and down declared on an AA half your size. Very impressive
On the other hand if you lose this war you are going to look doubly foolish for those exact same reasons, coupled with the fact that you are running your mouth about how well you are performing. Given the showing to date, and our activity levels compared to yours you should also realize this is a very real possibility.
If you had any sense at all you would realize this and shut up. I will not hold my breath though. -
[quote name='rodrod' timestamp='1288701032' post='2499803']
What is there to justify. People where called out, their prides where hurt, wars where started. It's as simple as that.
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..and somewhere along the line someone got the meanings of the words where and were mixed up.... -
[quote name='rodrod' timestamp='1288676342' post='2499694']
Our bottom 13 nations are below 1k NS. You have 2. That means we have 13 nations that are essintally not going to do us much help in this war, and 28 who will be the fighting force. 28 vs 22 isn't horribly low odds last time I checked. If you're going to bawww then please feel free to surrender and save your pixles.
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You realize this is only an accurate counter argument if every nation you currently have under 1k ns will remain there for the duration of the war and not jump up to hit anyone.
Then, and only then, will you be able to use this line of reasoning to offset claims about this being a down-declare. -
[quote name='Lurunin' timestamp='1288416616' post='2496995']
The only terms for this peace is that the Parrot Pirates provide the rum so long as The Hell Patrol provides the womenz...so may we drink, and drink, and drink, and drink, and drink, and drink, and $%&@...wait i mean...party
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True to our word, THP has already provided the female companionship outlined above and it appears our Parrot friends are quite pleased with their newly acquired "booty"
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Another fine example the greatness that comes from [size="3"][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwwmglYX7QE]mixing Pirates and Metal[/url][/size]
Now we shall all retire to Nancy's Tavern for a night of drinking and debauchery. -
Congrats on your retirement GK.
Your dedication and hard work over the years has shaped and molded an AA that you should be damn proud of, and one that will be in excellent hands with Mia at the helm going forward. Enjoy your well deserved rest my friend. -
[quote name='rodrod' timestamp='1287466289' post='2487498']
Clearly, we won. They even moved to a new AA.
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Yeah we were getting tired of having your anarchied nations showing up on our stats
The End is Here
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[quote name='Keve69' timestamp='1296540661' post='2614278']
At least that's how my ego read it.
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Congrats to UINE and your ego then