Stetson76
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Congratulations Olympus!
Here's to more long term purple love.
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Basically NAPs have simply been replaced by the Treaty of Amity / Friendship Pact / PIAT which all (I think?) have non-aggression clauses as well as optional defence clauses within. I think that's a bad thing, to be honest, as it cements the idea that you have to have a treaty to activate in order to declare war in defence of another alliance, or at all.
I am no expert regarding the history of treaties or their application on Plante Bob, but I can say that the PIAT's that I have been a part of specifically do not have any military commitments to them at all.
Being a big proponent of being as faithful to treaties as possible, I congratulate TOP for getting rid of NAP's. If you feel it necessary to indicate that you won't be attacking someone just because you've signed a treaty, then there's obviously not enough friendship there to sign a treaty anyway. A mandated commitment for an exchange of intelligence and financial exchanges seems to be acceptable to, if nothing else, indicate priorities.
The cool thing now is to sign PIATs where the information and aid clauses are never ever activated thus making them much fancier NAPs.I hope I don't ever get convinced to sign a PIAT with those cool kids then, cause we sure try to live up to the intelligence and aid portions of our PIAT's.
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Awesome guys!
The day I left was one of the hardest I've experienced in this game, but I knew that if you kept your core together you'd be successful. Not only have you done that, but you've picked up some new great members!
Keep up the great work.
Here's to Tempest!!!!
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Nice policy change guys.
I'm usre there'll be plenty of people who want to take advantage of it.
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I hope that as much effort (or more) was put into building up a good relationship between the two of you as was put into this announcement. Good luck.
It's not a lot of effort when it's fun Hydro.
Thank you to everyone that has wished us well. In the end this treaty is little more than a written confirmation of the bonds we have formed in the time since before OSA came into existence.
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They say that all the world's a stage but we hope that this PIAT shows that the friendship between SNAFU and OSA is not merely the delivered lines of two lively actors, but instead is reality at it's finest.
The founders of OSA spent some time with SNAFU as they finalized the structure of their new venture and we came to realize that these were people of both the highest character and ability. At that time it was decided to keep close with each other even as they started off on their great journey.
Open Source's commitment to providing their members a clear picture of their alliance's operations and to visible government is something we all should respect and try to provide our members.
Today is a day in which we present our camaraderie for the entire world to see. May it never grow old and may the ties that bind us now never fray.
Here's to the Open Source Alliance!
Here's to SNAFU!
Here's to friendship!
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Congrats to OSA on their new friends. Now just remember to not do what you did the last time you made friends...<sigh> the last time...
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The new boards look great!
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Great to see some of you guys back.
(Oh, and by some I mean the people I know, I'm sure the rest of you are cool too. LOL)
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Way to go guys!!!
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I think a government that awesome definitely deserves a WTF!
Congrats everyone.
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We're not officially Pegasus at this time, but I can say from experience that those guys rock!
Congratulations to both Pegasus and OFLC in getting together as I know you're both class acts.
P.S. Tempest's flag isn't the current one...
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How did I get dragged into this announcement?
Congratulations FAN, you've been fighting your battle since before I started this game, and although I don't know you guys, it's really impressive how you guys have hung together.
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Very nice Soviet Attack.
Thank you for sharing.
\o creativity and love of your alliance/home!
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Okay cool.
This really wasn't war related, especially since we're neutral and he's only been a member for 7 days, but I can understand if that's been happening a lot why you would question it.
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Well Mogar, in case you weren't aware, an ode is a poem and not necessarily a song, although I suppose it could be put to music.
That being said, SNAFU doesn't have an official song, so in answer to your question no, not EVERYONE is going to make a song.
One of our members decided that he wanted to create a poem about our alliance and I liked it so much I asked him if it was okay to share with everyone else. You don't have to appreciate it, and/or comment on it, but making a post completely unrelated to the topic seems a little uncalled for.
I apologize if there's been a large number of postings here regarding in house creativity, but as someone who merely follows the Alliance Announcements and not generally the RP sections of the forums, I was unaware of the fad. I do however understand that it's a compulsion of yours to be the first poster in a new topic, so I'll kindly write your comment off to your zeal for notoriety and go back to encouraging my members to have with this game by whatever means makes them the happiest.
Thanks for your time.
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Ode to SNAFU
written by UbarElite
So you've made your Cyber Nation,
And you're ready to kick some $@!,
But you've got to join an alliance first,
Or they will cut you up like grass.
Is what a lot of recruitment messages said.
They were sent buy lots of guys,
But there was probably one in particular
That just might have caught your eye.
It was sent by a man named Stetson,
"If you join us it would make my day,
But what I would love even more
Is just to show you how to play."
You think "What the heck, I've nothing to lose;
I'll play your little game."
So you ventured to our forums
Where you registered yourself a name.
"We know you had a choice for alliances,
But you chose us over the rest.
Now go read the beginner's guide,
And get started on your test."
So now you're masked as a radar blip,
Confused and Oblivious.
So you scrolled down the forum page,
And entered our oasis.
INFRA! INFRA! INFRA!
Trade Circles are so awesome.
THIS TEXT IS GREEN: IT MUST BE IMPORTANT!
Tech Deals rock! Go get some!
So you sent Stetson a PM,
And submitted to him your test.
“Congratulations! You’re officially in.
We’ll help make you the best!”
Now you’re off to tame the beast
That is the forums of SNAFU,
But do not fret; it’s not that bad,
I’ll even help guide you.
First there is the new recruit thread,
Which you have already been shown,
But some people have replied to your post
Whom you may not have known.
Of all those who reply to these
I notice a common three:
Stetson, CaVi and Lord Exodus.
Whom we will look at with scrutiny.
Next on the forums is SNAFU Spam,
Domain of CaVi and her rose,
She is the Director of Affairs Illicit.
How Illicit? Nobody knows.
She says “I’m sweet! I’m a good CaVi!
Why would you think I’m mean?”
But I’ve seen the way some react,
When her IRC Nick turns bold green.
But if you take the time to meet her,
You’ll find she’s truly kind.
Just send me a PM later though
If you want to read her mind.
On our list next is Lord Exodus:
An interesting guest.
As you may have seen in the beginners guide,
He makes the School of Hard Knocks his nest.
In here you will find his many guides.
Browse between them to and fro.
They contain invaluable information,
To help your nation expand and grow.
The subject without his name is war,
Which was left up to Stetson.
And this links me quite nicely
To our final scrutinized person.
He seems an upright, outstanding guy,
Although I’ve heard he can be mean.
Just remember Diet Pepsi is superior to Diet Coke,
Or he will “inform” you as he did me.
He keeps everything running as our Grand Fubar,
Which is not always an easy feat.
He’s always organizing, plotting, scheming, recruiting…
I wonder if he can sleep or eat?
There are many others here in our alliance
Who have not been warned about to you.
But get to know them; they’re not half bad.
And welcome to SNAFU.
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Congrats guys!
Glad you see you on the other side of this.
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As I consider Tempest my first real home on planet Bob, I wish you guys the best.
Purple love is the best kind of love.
\o Tempest
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SNAFUI'm glad you guys are staying out of this one, who knows, it might get messy, maybe you'll be protecting us by the end of it
Don't worry Dest, when we're protecting you, we won't require nearly the volume of novelty joke supplies as a weekly tribute. Our warehouse is already full of fake vomit, whoopie cushions and hand buzzers to keep up with your insatiable demands. (We'll be more than willing to still supply you with your requirements, with only a slightly astronomic markup.) We will however require weekly shipments of Diet Pepsi and Marlboro Lights delivered to my compound by Cairna dressed in his favorite french maid outfit while singing When the Saints Come Marching In. (And please tell him to shave this time.
)On a more serious note, thank you all for your kind wishes and rest assured that our commitment to all of our allies is unchanged.
Hail Carpe Diem!
Hail TPF!
Hail PEACE!
and hail peace!
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Happy Birthday guys.
I honestly never thought you'd make it this far either.
Carpe Diem has been nothing but fantastic as protectors and we look forward to much hilarity in the next year!
\o Carpe Diem
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Televisions flicker on in the homes across the width and breadth of SNAFU. A familiar man sits behind a desk and crushes out his cigarette then quaffs the last of his Diet Pepsi. Looking up he appears startled.
“Damn those producers gave the wrong time again,” he mumbles under his breath.
Composing himself, he clears his voice, “Ladies and gentlemen, I’m coming to you here tonight to communicate some serious news. In the last week the state of the world has descended into complete chaos. Luckily, SNAFU has spent its entire existence expecting that things will eventually go insane and that’s just the normal state of our home and it’s alright with us.”
Stetson gets up from behind the desk, lights a cigarette and exhales slowly. The camera pulls out to reveal a cloud of smoke hanging in the air like billowing storm clouds.
Pausing and popping open another can of Diet Pepsi he continues
“Despite our preparations for this day and confidence that it would arrive, SNAFU has found itself in an untenable situation (of course) which requires clarification tonight. SNAFU has made friends with a number of alliances in the course of our existence and we value those ties to this day. Unfortunately, we must clarify our position in regards to those friends. SNAFU has never signed a treaty without fully intending to fulfill it to the fullest and our dedication to this ideal is unchanged, therefore we shall be honoring our treaties to the best of our ability.”
Stetson walks to the front of the desk and sits on the edge.
“SNAFU’s protectors and brothers, Carpe Diem, have declared war on Nusantara Elite Warriors tonight and the realities of this situation have put us on the “other” side of this conflict from some of our dear friends, namely The Phoenix Federation and the members of PEACE. “
“Although SNAFU only has optional pacts with these entities, our desire to see our treaty commitments fulfilled has given us pause in making this announcement. None the less, we have come to the decision that our protectors must take priority. This does not mean our friendships with PEACE and TPF are diminished so we shall uphold our oath to not engage in any military action with a member of PEACE, The Phoenix Federation or their allies. We wish the best to everyone involved in this war and will be ready to help in any way we can once hostilities have ceased.”
Exhaling with a huge sigh, Stetson hangs his head and takes another drag off his smoke.
“Today is a day that I had hoped wouldn’t have come..” looking up and staring directly into the camera, “SNAFU is an alliance of marginal size, but exceptional heart and it pains us to sit on the sidelines while our friends are at war, but know this, we shall always do our best to honor our word.”
“Thank you for your time.”
The camera goes dark as Stetson turns and crushes out his cigarette with vehemence and a shake of his head…
tl;dr SNAFU must remain neutral in the current conflict.
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Good luck guys.
\o Carpe Diem
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Sorry I was so late to the party. The nation of Axeland was busy celebrating a national holiday that had something to do with bunnies, execution, candy and necromancy.
I'm very glad to sign on to this amendment. Purple has been our home since day one and SNAFU looks forward to closer tie with our grape brethren.
\o purple
\o PEACE
SNAFU
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Ultimatum to Sparta
in Alliance Announcements (IC)
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So, I'm really bored, and just thought I'd throw some things out there which crossed my mind while reading this thread...
I first off find it funny that it wasn't until page 35 that someone pointed out that it was pure luck that Sparta is the one that decided to take Rebel Virginia's bait and not one of the other alliances at war with NPO...the bolded part is where that question comes up, but even that is quite a leap to believe that Sparta was his target all along.
The next thing that came to mind was if the NPO when/if it comes out of this mess with treat RV as a war time deserter? He was clearly flying the NPO AA and then switched to FAIL to continue his fight...
I can't get over the hypocrisy of someone who has repeatedly stated that they will use any means necessary in prosecuting a war as this is just one example of...
should be outraged over the fact that he was sanctioned. Did it every occur to everyone who has decried the sanction as too harsh to think that a "wittle, tiny, 4k NS nation" that goes to the OWF and makes a headline grabbing, reputation smearing post, poking fun at an alliance chosen seemingly at random, who was completely acting within their rights and engaging in a war that most of you want to see happen, might react a bit more forcefully than when dealing with your garden variety pest? I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin' that the bigger target you put on your back, the bigger the stick that's gonna be used to smash you...
And finally in regards to the OOC attacks...for your reference and Trinite's response which I think handles the majority of the question...
Except for Nintenderek who didn't quite get it...
He said he'd like to be in the room when RV died...that's different than saying he wanted him to die, or that he wanted him to die then. An hour later, he made the other statement which Trinite seems to have sufficiently explained.
Now, I'm not saying that a member of mine that said something like that wouldn't be facing serious censure, or even expulsion, but that's a matter of decorum, not because it was and OOC attack.
So, sorry for extending this topic, but it's not often that I get so far into something like this and feel that there's anything else to be said. I'm sure none of this needed to be said, but then again, this topic doesn't "need" to exist.