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Posts posted by Fireandthepassion
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That's just wrong.
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Why are people keeping up boarder walls?
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Why don't you be brave, bulk up and wait for Khyber? Im sure a slot against him could be saved for a great friend like you. I fought Khyber and would recommend it.
I would love to fight Khyber in a fair fight. I wouldn't want to fight someone with a depleted warchest that was already in anarchy. That's not so much fun. I love being on the front lines and taking more than CM/Air damage. I'll remember that it's fun for future reference when he is at 100%. The same goes for the 90k nation. [ooc]It's a game I'm a bit tired of stat collecting I want to have some good wars.[/ooc]
I'm sorry, are you talking about friendship or treaties? Because they aren't the same thing.So none of your treaties are based on friendships built with people? You just signed them to sign them? Then you just might have bad treaty partners with the exception of Polaris. Treaties should be built around being friends with that alliance. However, again people with no official treaty documentations have generally been labeled as band-wagoners.
You'll have vultures in whatever war exists. But LUE backed up Fark for a treaty that wasn't announced yet but in the making. They didn't need the full treaty to stand by them. GOLD backed up FAN without a treaty. People have supported their friends thoughout CN's history. Band wagoners is sometimes true, and sometimes not, you make up your mind.I said generally leaving room for the few exceptions.
Also didn't GOLD just send aid to FAN through a proxy then GOLD was declared on by NPO for said aid? I don't remember GOLD outright declaring on anyone or being declared on during FAN-WUT/VietFAN up to Unjust. Aiding and declaring in defense is a bit different. I've given aid to [ooc]my friend's from RL[/ooc] in game to help them build or get out of bill-lock. I forget if FAN was still at war with WUT at that point though.
Golden Sabers did something with the Senate for FAN which got them declared on in FAN-1V/VietFAN II because they were considered a FAN off shoot for that. I suppose that's a form of declaration I guess.
I'm not sure you've read the OP thoroughly. We don't sign treaties, at all.We're trying something relatively new; though the idea behind it has been floating around for a few years already. Many small alliances don't get treaties out of laziness or inactivity, we do it by purpose. Other than that, we're all for good relations with foreign alliances and I think we will do just fine, thank you.
And that policy wont last long because you aren't Opethian. Sure some people will respect, but by doing this you're still leaving yourself open to tech raids.
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It is, for us. You might want to double-check with your leaders and allies, unless you want to set a precedent that might be used against you. We're fine with it. Heck, we're honored to see you need more than a 132-strong alliance to take RLMMO and us out.
By the way, it's called a military strategy. I'm not sure about your alliance but I'm pretty positive your allies use peace mode as such, too. You know, to make the war lasts longer and to be able to declare on your terms, coming out full guns blazing when you're ready, etc.
Keve already told me stipulations that is way ok. I said ok. As far as I know you aren't officially allied to anyone. You have yet to make your DoE or announce a protectorate. I doubt anyone would want to sign that pact with your alliance now seeing how you operate.
It's also a decent military strategy to declare on you to stop the amount of nukes being flown at GOONS by taking up one of your defensive slots for me to eat nukes while I nuke you back.
You just declared war. You're in peace mode. It's not THAT great of a strategy when you're declaring in an aggressive defense, and trying to back people up. If you were larger or initially declared on, yes you're right PM isn't a bad strategy in a larger alliance to save people as bankers to push aid out to people in mass during war, or after war to rebuild.
I feel bad for that 7 or 8k NS nation that's in war mode with no one around him to collaborate with in terms of planning out an attack.
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Like my Nizzle has said, it has been, as long as you value your friendships.
No it hasn't. Generally those people have been labeled as band-wagoners.
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It always has been...
Treaty cancellations when war looms begs to differ my friend.
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Your bravado about being able to hit a nation that has to fully beef up its military to be in your range sums you up completely
[OOC]It's not my fault that's how game mechanics work.[/OOC] I'll make a stand for my friend's in GOONS. Sure UINE and GOONS don't have an official treaty, but friendship is apparently justification to go to war with another alliance now.
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Such a noob thing to say, you bring shame on us all. Unless there is a magic wand that makes 5 days equal one there is nothing that they can do.
It's more of a noob thing to say you're taking a stand and are willing to face destruction all the while sitting in peace mode in a 4 man alliance knowing the risks of joining a 4 man alliance with out a protectorate.
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He will, give him time.I think the peace mode argument has already been covered in page 2 by Alterego.
I'll come out of peace mode soon enough, don't worry about that.
Oh goody that way when he beefs up his military he'll be in my range.
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Oh look! Another retroactive treaty!
Come get some.
e: 4 members, two of which are in peace mode. How did we attract such laughable attention?
Because where-ever the GOONS from the moon go laughs will always ensue.
Those laughs not necessarily directed at you.
Actually, you didn't venture into what those "other details" might be, Chairman Hal. You simply pointed out what is evidently a typo, one that will be corrected as soon as a mod gets around to it.For the rest, you're correct. We're a small alliance, taking a stand, helping friends. We know we will be badly damaged by this war.
We also contacted both Kronos and GOONS.
Come out of peace mode and say that.
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The neutral menace will get what they have had coming for a long time.
Go to beige alert!
Tell my wife I said Hello.
Ontopic:
)): neutral menaces )):
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Funny.. if former protector really held weight, then Kronos was super-dishonorable to attack RLMMO in the first place.
That is if any of what you typed mattered.
You're threatening with nukes. Both alliances are allied to the 1 and 2 in terms of nukes. You're seeking mercs to hit either alliance. Do you REALLY think any alliances allied to either one of parties would let that happen? People would be dumb to accept such a situation at the risk of being pounded by Polaris and TOP nations.
I think you didn't think this through entirely.
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You overestimate your virility. More like the alliance who loves to eat nukes.
You do know that Kronos is an MDP partner to TOP your former protector right?
You do know that GOONS is an MDoAP partner with NpO right?
Not that either alliance will invoke their treaties*, but if you really want to get into a contest of who likes to eat nukes I'm looking at the alliance that starts with an R.
*They wont need to.
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Honestly... if anyone had any old scores they feel like settling with Goons or whoever else decided to start a war with RLMMO... there's plenty of slots available. From their actions here, it's clear they're a dishonorable group of idiots who look for any half-baked justification to play pitbull. Actually, that's been obvious for years already.
The bottom line is, the button you hit to tech raid is called "Declare War". There's no "Steal Stuff" button. You can't punch someone in the face, and when they retaliate, claim they started it.
Funny how when ground wars happen on nations that are under 13 days inactive you take tech though. So I guess people are stealing take. They certainly didn't ask to borrow or have your tech so they must be stealing it.
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Oh what did I ever do to you?
Well off to warn my populace then. I just hope we have enough white paint to save them all from the fallout.
In the interest of transparency in these dealings, I would like to make clear that this young ruler's statement indicates a preference for "tea". I am very interested in if he takes it straight or in cinnamon flavour. Leave a reply in my embassy please.
Finally, since I am a concerned bystander, let me just add that I hope the combined KronoGoonish flag will soon wave merrily over the rubble that was RLMMO.
Don't you realize that TOP's former protectorate is trying to destroy TOP's allies and isolate TOP so they can roll TOP!?
It's the Unjust War all over again!
Yes I know how UJW started. The situation still fits.
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Just to clarify,
You attack one of us while hiding behind the collective skirt of an alliance, we jack up as much of said alliance as we can hit.
It's not math.
While having two alliances then totally obliterate you.
You are definitely doing it right.
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i guess nobody can see that this threatened an entire bloc
we are still bound by TSU
and who knows what the future holds when KD gets his internal problems sorted out
i do wish him the best in the future
TSU isn't a military bloc. The only time that military comes into play is when a seller is being extorted.
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UED obviously has some internal issues we weren't aware of upon signing. KD is a great guy but without control over his members actions who knows what could happen.
Yes because a person with 1 day seniority in the alliance is totally member of government, and reflects exactly what the interior stability of the alliance is like.
Should have gotten to know them before you signed a treaty.
Can the MoFA break this treaty? I would assume it would have to be sanctioned by the leader of the alliance.
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You out-number and have more NS than UED. Just show them whose boss. Forget negotiations because you have every right to defend yourself.
In the words of KingXander MAIM KILL BURN.
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I voted Frostbite since it's evident that we need to be rolled for our terrible positions on carrying nukes.
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Ah don't feel bad, he seems to fail at understanding pretty much every aspect of CN
I just wish he could find a merc that was willing to hit me.
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i just wanted you for the temporary protection and possible money aid. isn't that anyone who joins your stupid alliances want?
Except you fail to understand how our aid system works.
But please go on this hilarious.
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It was all a clever lie for my master plan but i've decided to hold off on that plan for a later time for maximum damage.
We were going to give you a chance.
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you have no wonders, hardly any tech and crappy resources. Id do it but that's just me. I rerolled with 4 wonders and 1500 tech, and about 5000 infra. I eventually got fish and iron and I'm very happy with it, glad I did. Be warned though, it may take some time to get a new set you like. I was rerolling for almost 3 months to get my current set.
I completely agree with this. Up to 4,999.99 infrastructure it's a pretty cheap ride that with a lot of tech deals or an alliance that helps you grow through programs takes little time to get up to where you were. If you had wonders I would say no, but you don't. So I say go for it.
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