AndrewC202

Nothing need be said....

21:40 eyerack[Echo] so you are going to kick me out of the alliance that I created and that you have been in for two days 21:40 eyerack[Echo] your logic is so flawed its not even funny Isn't that what you stated you did in the first few posts? That ES couldn't lead an alliance that: 1. Originally was made of ghosts and/or Echo members 2. Was unbiased because most of the members where SDF's loyalists. Because: 1. He was unfit to rule as a leader or 2. Just because "your logic is so flawed its not even funny" Look eyerack I don't know you personally or how good/bad you are at leading an alliance but I do think that what you did to ES was wrong and for him to have to leave with the members who have been through hell and still aren't out of it yet is bad.

I just copies the "Whose reading this topic ATM" so YES! you should be disappointed, lol.

I'm not sure but what vote isn't biased in terms of members. The main point is however that both are saying that the members are more loyal to each other and both are putting arguments forward and other alliances are getting involved therefore let the votes speak for itself.

Actually only really for Standard and chatting. If you can handle the PM system as well as ES did and use my target system for war which I will not disclose for all your eyes are not worthy then you will be fine such as SDF was. Edit: Lurunin, AndrewC202, The Wizard of Oz, mtndew, rtellez06*, Stevee, Folger Soldier, dogbite if you are one of these people I command you to agree with me. *The force is strong with this one.

But a couple posts ago you said they where only ghosts and most Echo members, your making me confused now which of your facts is right? Anyway ES said yes for a vote it's up to you now or I may go crazy and hold a bloody coup (Just kidding...*starts thinking).

Unfortunately that is not up to me nor you, it's the members decision now if they let them have a voice.

How about the members have a vote? Rather than you both having a fight? I'll do it in case you're going to be afraid of each other cheating.

As former leader of SDF I should have a say in this and since ES took over I kept quiet and let him do his thing. I'm asking that no other alliance get involved in this. If Echo is to have a civil war let them because it's what they want that they are fighting for not how many friends they can have. ES is a good guy and despite forming a close relationship which I never did with the members he did make some mistakes along the path but to be honest I should be more upset than anyone else so please drop the "ES did this and that and he's bad" let the alliance work it out for themselves.

Thanks for the support, hopefully I can carry that to the exams. And guys listen I know about the happenings with ES but I think he's a good leader and I'd rather have him as leader than to keep trailing the SDF into destruction because I didn't have the time to log in. What were to happen if someone declared on us? Chaos and probably disbandment; at least with ES that have a fighting if not good chance of holding strong and from the comments from my members so far about ES being a better leader than I have the past few days/weeks I understand and apologize for not doing this a little earlier when I started to put my attention into something else.

I could post an extremely long post but that will cut into my study time for important exams regarding my future, but I'll keep it simple. I've found someone to take over SDF after a few days so recently I could let go of the reigns. Emperor Stranger is taking charge of the SDF (I know some of you don't like him, but I don't care what you think because these exams mean more to me). I will possibly be returning next round to start fresh. I wish you all the best as well as the SDF and ES. Shout-out to: Roman Empire and Tiberius TPF and Gabrial SDF and Emperor Stranger and anyone else I'm to lazy to mention or forgot but deserves the best. Bye bye now.

Might be a bit late but like Tibs and Lonewolf, I'd have to support Gabs on this one.

I especially like this one though: It seems that after a few nights of fighting with poor odds made you moan and whine for PU to help so I don't see why we were ridiculous. Seriously though I told you SDF would never fight with such uneven odds in a war like this. We could have easily joined the conflict and made the odds worse but I stuck to my word that the SDF wouldn't join to make the odds bad. Good luck UJA but I guess Karma wins sometimes.

o/ Tiberius and Roman Empire

Congrats to UJA and PU, well done and all the best.

As mentioned the SDF will be protecting them until they find a good alliance or dissolve.

SDF is in negotiations with UJA for peace. No word from PU though.

Because you wuv me lol

Not it's not evil because two alliances are hitting a target, it's evil that after such bad odds they ask for reinforcements to make the odds worse. Yes WOLF is attacking you with two alliances but stop ignoring the fact that it equals out in strength and numbers. I have no hate for Black or UJA yes they have some good points BUT they've made a mistake and keep using the "It's a war game" to back up their purpose. What do you learn from attacking something that can't attack back because they've lost all their fighters, infra (hence soldiers). I was glad that JR was created, I was glad the PU attacked us (Look in their DoW is was joking around and wishing them luck). I am not happy though that PU asked UJA to join in because we we're losing and they get upset that all our top nations were retaliating with Cruise Missiles and soldiers. They we're out of range and I know this for a fact because I was drawing up target lists for the nations in SDF on PU. If you start a war and get cut it's your fault for starting it. Not even WOLF was organised to do this, you handled your own mistakes. It was only in defence that our allies would come in to attack you. Edit: spelling mistakes.

Well the WOLF war drove away one of my trades (Gabryal).

Exactly, most of us were allies in the beginning anyway. But to be honest I think the destruction of WOLF has strengthened our bonds. I know it has on SDF's behalf.

Since there is no specific title to GDA on this topic I'll announce that the SDF is looking for peace too. We've left WOLF but are remaining loyal to RE and TPF.

I'm with this 100% plus I would appreciate everyone to stop making comments that haven't been proven wrong with the previous posts beforehand. I know it's a war game but this isn't war if one side is destroyed and other nations join in all in the Spirit that they are learning to fight, what are you going to learn shooting something that can't fight back. I had respect for most alliances on TE: That has not changed only that I don't have respect for Individuals that support this sort of thing. I had respect for people opposing WOLF: Until they claim they are noble for greatly unmatched odds. I had respect for WOLF allies: And I still do for standing by SDF, if your claims that WOLF ruined TE, take a look around you we never stopped wars. We have started them....but now YOUR coalition is putting not only a stop to wars but making similar people like yourselves who play the same game as you hate to even want to login to post something on this forum. Most of you said you would FIGHT and PROTECT my dear friend Emperor Stranger because he had unmatched odds. Why is the difference in this situation?

What's complicated: We're out gunned and out numbered: We accept the challenge Another alliance bigger than us joins the fray: We say this isn't fair An ally tries to prove this and he's making it complicated how?

How the hell do you expect US to fight with honor when we're being slaughtered BY NOT ONE but two !@#$@#$ alliances and them proclaiming they are the best. Is that what you call honor! I never had the intentions of putting a curbstop to ANY alliance in TE. I did have a bit of a revenge plan for WAPA but ran out of time in end of round wars with WOLF but even then after I saw them getting hit pretty hard by Nothern Lights I backed down and did the honorable thing to canceling the attack despite it being the perfect time to attack. So don't you tell me this is supposed to be an honorable war!