Morey 2k7
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you guys do realise you will probablly need to keep this 'deal' for a while after the war if you want any customers right? The war is going to knock alot of nations a long way down meaning there is going to be more supply.
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So anything short of perma-ZI is okay and I should just shut up because it's not as bad as it was? Give me a break. If you start acting like the hegemony did, then yes I am going to point that out and I am going to criticise it.
Also, I am not hegemony and just because my posts aren't 'HAHAHA NPO suck' it doesn't mean I'm a propagandist for the other side.
Our side just taunting them is, it's all part of war one side taunting and picking at their flaws.
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Well said. Considering all the rhetoric about how much Karma wishes to be different to the NPO and put an end to their heinous ways, it's amusing to see them saying exactly the same things here that the NPO said about peace-mode in the past. You guys who are goading them to get out of peace mode, can't you see that you're acting in exactly the same way that the NPO did? Using the justification of 'well NPO did it so it's okay if we do it back' does not wash, you've painted yourself as the classy bunch so the onus is on you to start living up to that. The goading of Valhalla, TPF, and recently NPO for using the legitimate peace-mode tactic in this war just because they're on the opposite side to you is weak.
Did you choose to disregard the posts which explained that if we were doing the same as NPO were doing their would be a topic up right now from Karma saying that all Hegemony nations in peace mode would be perma ZI'd if they did not come out by x date. I suppose though its how low Hegemony has to go by using propoganda of 'you are doing just what we did, you is bad'.
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Should be pretty harsh terms for 1V and Q, the ones who have recieved white peace deserved so through just honouring treaties (maybe not NATO) and not really playing a big role in making CN a place where alot disliked it.
An interesting term I would also like to be added in is for terms to include alliances having to remove everyone off their eternal ZI lists/perma ZI lists, including alliances.
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They entered through multiple defensive clauses held with NPO, as their first target was Avalanche. Avalanche had already launched attacks upon NPO.
ah i see, thanks for clearing it up.
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Right in essence, but you got a couple parts wrong. We told all of our allies, regardless of sides, that we would not defend anyone who entered aggressively, either by starting the war or by oA. RoK and FEAR entered on oA initially. TPF was the first TOOL ally to enter the war defensively. IRON also entered defensively, and while we did not directly engage any alliances fighting them, we did engage the other side of the war, keeping those alliances off IRON's back, not to mention getting four alliances to promise not to attack them.
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Didn't TPF enter the war on oA as well? Just like RoK and FEAR. I don't recall Karma being the ones to declare on TPF, and it was TPF who entered through agression clause in their treaty with NPO (??).
Not saying TOOL did anything wrong here or am slating you guys, just it seems you are arguing reasons for not entering for RoK and FEAR which can also be applied to TPF.
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Coal/Marble
Added you in, just need 2 more people now.
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Its a slight variation of the 5 bonus ring, the colour sphere it will reside on can be finalised later but with a strong preferance to the green team.
Cattle: Morey
Lead: Morey
Aluminum:
Lumber: linkster
Iron:
Marble: Deidara
water: CheddarOTW
Uranium:
Wheat: CheddarOTW
Coal*: Deidara
Oil*:
Rubber*: linkster
This is the base trade set I want to setup, however those resources marked with * can be switched for others if someone wants apart of this set but both resources dont fit.
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The are an RIA protectorate that wanted to help out their protectors.. I do not see how that is bandwaggonning.
Leave them be srqt, the only bit of propoganda they can come up with is 'O noes you bandwagon'.
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Shouldnt you tell all your nations that you are going to war before you DoW? Your #1 nation is in defcon 5 with hardly any military, juicy target for you there PC.
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Ever since ive had my SDI it hasn't thwarted a single nuclear strike (been nuked 10 times so far). Maybe i need to speak to admin about getting a replacement, I just hope its still in warranty.
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No global war is complete without this
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A first simple step would be to switch the night time/day time advantages. There are a hell of alot of players these with over 1k tech so of course going to encourage people to attack at night, whats more is that then another advantage is gained from striking at update.
Advantages do need to be devised to draw people away from attacking at update, whether it be time between attacks for troops to replenish ammo and regroup for example, or to provide greater incentives to attack across the day time by giving better battle odds etc. As it stands warfare is unfair for those who 1) Americans who can easily get on at update as opposed to europeans 2) people who get locked out of the game.
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We have an Optional Aggression pact with Echelon, so we decided to activate it rather than drag this out any longer. Echelon has been there for us when we needed them and we will be there for them. Win or lose we shall fight beside our friends in echelon.
O/ Aurora Borealis
O/ Echelon
O/ Friends > Infra
Its ok to activate your optional agression, just make sure you state it clearly in your DoW. Atm it reads that we (GOD) have attacked Echelon which has brought you to their defense.
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This either pathetic or you guys just saving your nations for another fight (with NPO).
If this is the case, it seems alot are already in disgust especially amongst the membership of all alliances concerned.
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Seems to me NPO was negotiating well enough and had accepted all the terms at the end.
Why not keep up talks?
I don't think NPO had at any stage accepted the terms, they seem to of been continuing to discuss the terms.
Its all very well posing the question why talks did not continue, when the same question can be applied to talks that were occuring before war was declared by pacifica. You reap what you sow.
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hmm, I would sleep with one eye open guys as one day this will come back to haunt you. I highly doubt that NPO will be forced away from planet bob and I am sure they will not forget your betrayal.
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You haven't escaped, your time will eventually come.
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pretty sad really, when not faced with a curbstomp in their favour they just keel over.
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Do we really have to show you?
No, not really.
won't or can't?
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Up until last night OV knowingly had a blackpebble spy leader in their government.
Again a wild accusation, whats your backing for this one? Come on, humour us.
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I forgot to mention that those logs sponge posted were from OV/VE as they had the same people present in all 4 sets. I know who was there from the NPO/TORN side and the same people were not present for all parts.
So you are now saying OV/VE have been passing on info to Vox?
Get off it, we know Vox has spies everywhere, we don't know however how far up the ladder these spies are and what access they have to each alliances forums who were present. Plus add on that the logs were prolly passed around many allies and posted on many different forums.
Basically there are endless possibilites of how Vox got the logs, so I wouldn't start throwing out accusations of OV/VE giving them to Vox.
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All I learned from this thread is that we shouldn't have bothered with these peace negotiations to begin with.
Maybe then we shouldn't bother with peace negotiations when you are on the losing side and wanting peace.
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Wait, are you seriously claiming that Moo faked eight pings in order to make the NPO look bad?
My IRC logs are in Eastern time, so 01:00 is update.
Apr 20 22:14:11 * Moo-cows has quit (Client exited)
Apr 20 22:15:27 * Moo-cows (Moo's hostmask censored) has joined #nsa
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4/20/2009 11:43:00 PM (server) first NPO war
4/20/2009 11:44:33 PM (server) bigwoody DoWs
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Tula does go onto to say that even if Moo did actually D/C, that then the normal process would be to rejoin the chat after reconnecting. Not to go and declare war.
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Maybe try and file a report asking if you can be unbanned?