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In fact it obviously alienated all three of its former allies to the point where they would declare down on the opposite side of a war.
Yet not so alienated that they would cancel the treaty. Funny that.
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they have proven in the past that they usually honor treaties.
Do you know how absurd that sounds?
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"Honored" implies a whole lot more than reality: shoulder-shrugging blind obedience. And as such, I cordially invite them to stop acting like it's anything more than that and/or as if being slaves to slow-paced, lazy FP makes them better than IRON.
For what it's worth, it was tough for them. Out of respect for TPF, I shouldn't talk about how torn they were in the months leading up to this war publicly, but they really were, and it wasn't blind obedience. I almost wish it were. It was tough watching them go through what they did.
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Oh, please, if this war had gone off the way NG wanted, TPF was already pledged to go with the optional Fark treaty over all the NG-side mutuals you have (unless you all were lying to CoJ).
I've refrained from commenting on TPF gov posts like this so far because I respect TPF, but with a post like that you guys have got to the point where I'm not going to sit around and let you pretend that TPF are the flag-waiving patriots you're acting like over there.
The difference is that when it didn't go as planned, TPF honored their treaties.
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I will admit that of all the people in the universe you are my #1
And you, dear Grubbins, are #2.
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This is OWF, no evidence is required to defame someone you dislike.
Ok, just as long as you're openly admitting you're full of shit.
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Works for you
Please provide one example. Thanks.
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Rey's point was stupid and without substance. If he adds an actual "argument", then perhaps I will address it.
If you are truly of the belief that IRON is one to stab their allies in the back, then go ahead, believe that. But you may find we are a very honorable alliances. And I believe the NPO will want to work with us again once dust has settled.
Also, added the I :)
You mean "Once we realize we have no friends over on this side of the treaty web and we run back and start licking NPO's boots again" right?
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Wait, when does the hunting start again? You've only declared 2 wars. :(
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We're not blind to it, we just don't care.
But also, I don't think "most of CN" sees it the same way you do.
Oh, I know they do.
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Congratulations!
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See, IRON? When NG ends up looking better than you, you know you've hit rock bottom.
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The average CN player for you.
And right over his head.
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The only chain that matters Pezstar, is the one that TOP keeps them on.
They really do seem to have the longest running relationship of that nature in history. You have to give them points for consistency. Good for you guys!
Time to recycle old propaganda?
See? They're doing us a favor.
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Hey IRON, I hear you'll be countering us against NADC, an alliance you have no ties to whatsoever. I just wanted to let you know that we're looking forward to seeing what sort of absurd chains you pull off to make that happen! Good luck!
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Whatever you say :rolleyes:
I'm actually not a coward, and to accuse IRON of being cowards after going in and attacking a bunch of neutrals, it's sad. Believe what you want, but IRON did the best it could with the shitty situation we were given.
So the very best IRON can do is refuse to honor a treaty, admit they never planned to in the first place, and just never cancel the treaty or bother to let anyone know?
You should put that in your recruitment messages.
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Keep pretending that you know anything about how IRON values their friendships and allies. Our allies know where we stand now and they know where we stood before NG declared war in defense of NSO.
Oh sweetie. I don't have to pretend anything. It's right there in black in white in your war declaration.
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1- I'm not that inactive. I might not post much HERE, but you can be assured that I read everything, including the logs in which IRON essentially told NG they're going to just ignore their treaty.
2- STA isn't in a coalition. We aren't affiliated with whatever they're calling themselves in any way. We're defending an ally and didn't discuss it with anyone other than TPF.
3- Again, I've talked to numerous people on BOTH sides of this war, and people on the other side are pretty anti-IRON as well. They're not stupid. They know they're not so special that IRON would ever treat them any better, and in fact many have been on the receiving end of IRON's bullshit before.
And about those logs I mentioned earlier... well, here you go:
[19:53] Steve_Buscemi[NG] So, has IRON voted on giving us military assistance and attacking LoSS, with your nations?
[19:53] BaronAaron[IRON] we vote no[19:53] Steve_Buscemi[NG] Okay, so you willfully violating our treaty.[19:55] BaronAaron[IRON] for what its worth i am sorry[19:57] Derwood1[NG] if I can ask a question, and I have heard many things about this but I would like it direct from you: why are you not defending us?[19:58] BaronAaron[IRON] becasue for months we told you this was going to happen[19:58] BaronAaron[IRON] because for months your old gov put you in a bad posisiton[19:58] BaronAaron[IRON] because we have committed to the otherside[19:58] BaronAaron[IRON] because i have allies on both sides[19:59] BaronAaron[IRON] because as this war took off in a different direction than the one IRON had planned[20:01] Derwood1[NG] you told us months ago this would happen yet the war went a different direction[20:02] Derwood1[NG] you clearly chose your side a while back yet you did not cancel on us, why? hedging your bet?[20:03] Derwood1[NG] <BaronAaron[IRON]> we did choose our side a long time ago[20:03] Derwood1[NG] yet you kept our treaty[20:03] Derwood1[NG] in bad faith[20:05] BaronAaron[IRON] yes. TOP and friends were coming after you. All of our talks (brief they were) where about them coming after you and IRON saying we do not have your backs on this one. Your old gov spit in our faces and now here we are. We tried to change this whole war. You all jumped in with 2 feet.[20:07] BaronAaron[IRON] we set up a brawl between NG and TOP[20:07] BaronAaron[IRON] then things changed 2 days prior to the DoWs[20:07] BaronAaron[IRON] and the set up changed and you all had 2 choices[20:07] BaronAaron[IRON] let NSO burn[20:07] BaronAaron[IRON] or jump in with both feetIRON didn't defend because they chose their side a long time ago and couldn't be bothered to cancel their treaty with NG first. -
Alliances should bookmark this thread to refer to later if IRON ever comes knocking, looking to build a friendship. It's proof positive that IRON doesn't give two shits about their allies and only cares about being the biggest loser on the winning side.
For the record, IRON, I've talked to many people on both sides of this war, and pretty much everyone is in agreement that you guys are the next target. Good luck working your way out of that one with crap like this visible to all.
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For what it's worth, STA has never been dragged into war. Our treaties have non chaining agreements. We entered willingly.
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D34th's propaganda is a gift to the world. He's not exclusive. :)
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You guys skipped the last 2 wars? Why aren't you guys bigger?
ANS wise, we're much, much bigger than we've ever been before.
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Never change, RV.
Good luck STA, I've grown to respect you guys over the years. Here's to a good fight.
Same to you guys. We've never really spoken alliance to alliance. Perhaps a battlefield friendship can be forged here. We have an ally in common!
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