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1 minute ago, the rebel said:
Of course you would know about bullying, with your recruitment at gun point policy.
Lets just ignore him. Nothing good can come from talking to him here.
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36 minutes ago, Lucius Optimus said:
In all instances when I started a micro, LPC finds a way into it. It was true in 2014, it's still true now. I refuse to allow the same fate befall COBRA as my old alliance.....suprised attack by Sir Kindle simply for wanting to remain independent of aNiMaLz. If it weren't for TCA intervention, my alliance and I would have likely faced permanent ZI st the hands of your lacky.
I am sorry to be the one to tell you this, But micro's with out protectors get raided all the time. This is done & accepted by most AA's.
Nevermore I say. FCA shouldn't have to join the Libertarian bloc at all if it refuses, and we have refused you. But just telling you that wouldn't have sat well would it? No you would have had aNiMaLz or Minc raid the FCA for cash and sent assailants out for us until we capitulated. Further, you were unwilling to show any gesture of good faith to FCA beyond calling back Montezuma (wich wasn't supposed to happen anyway). Montezuma was trash talking FCA long before I challenged him to actually do something. ( wich demonstrates bad form and I'll dicipline)
No you did not just refuse, you started a war of aggression. Based on: "I know you are evil, be course you have not given us what we want".
Montezuma might have trash talked you and even attacked you, but it seems that he rather then me was right about being able to trust you guys.
And now you are right, you will be utterly destroyed and every one of your nations looted for all that they got. Only way to safe our self from this faith, at least if I get my way, is unconditional surrender.
Oh I'm sure sure you wouldn't have. Always looking for the next vote....
Well, guess we will never know now!
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2 minutes ago, Dr Strange said:
He change it yeah, then Meth made the "cobra" aa. But Kanabis put the COBRA name right back up, just like it was before. Nothing change. A new aa was made but besides that everything was back to the way it was.
No, GK uses C[Zero]BRA, look here http://www.cybernations.net/search.asp?searchstring=All&search=C0BRA&anyallexact=all&Strength1=&Strength2=
Here is the Cobra:
The last search gives a result with FCA and Cobra
But none of the above change my point:
QuoteThe only change you have left is an unconditional surrender and then earn your trust or at least come so close to that so that we give you the COBRA AA.
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4 minutes ago, Rayvon said:
Considering how LPC (You) have a thing about forcing subjugation in the name of Libertarianism; it's clear he is fighting for freedom when he's fighting to be sovereign. You do not value freedom, you value senate votes and sell a knock-off of freedom in exchange for them -- attacking anyone who commits "treason" by refusing to subjugate (the very use of the word 'treason' proves your true intentions of your view of yourself and ownership over them).
Help me out here! What would have happend if FCA had not declared on us & C0BRA? We had no plans to attack FCA!
Was they not free to do what ever they wanted before they declared (with the exception of the nations under terms).
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1 minute ago, Dr Strange said:
I'm not actually in a government position. I'm just a soldier. And considering Kababis still has the COBRA AA he really didn't lose it to LPC. They just made their on version. It's like Walmart, ripping off name brands with their Great Value line.
Not you Dr Strange, but you the gov. of FCA. But besides that you are a key member!
GK LOST the name, he renamed his AA with the intent to go back to it. But Methrage was quick and took control of it. So now GK have to use the bastard version.
But none of the above change my point:
QuoteThe only change you have left is an unconditional surrender and then earn your trust or at least come so close to that so that we give you the COBRA AA.
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21 minutes ago, Dr Strange said:
We created it. You can't get a much better claim then that.
Then you left it and the guy you left in charge lost it to us in order to get a quick laugh.
Then you (FCA gov.) lead nations in war against us, where quite a few was still under surrender terms. You (FCA (gov.) knew this, but did not care.
So really the only claim you have to anything is what you can take by force and considering that you almost united Kashmir, C0BRA and LPCN around a common wish to crush you, I am petty sure that the taking things by force option is unlikely. The only change you have left is an unconditional surrender and then earn your trust or at least come so close to that so that we give you the COBRA AA.
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3 minutes ago, Lucius Optimus said:
You are going to give 40k strength to hit me?
Lol....Wow....
All a part of the LPCN customer servive on dirty Tuesday
lol
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1 hour ago, Roal36 said:
Kashmir is fighting LPC, kanabis is fighting LPC, FCA is fighting LPC, FCA is fighting Kanabis and now Kashmir is fighting FCA. Its officially a three front war.
This is pure
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1 hour ago, Lucius Optimus said:
I'll have you know that it was a tactical move. If I stayed at 10k I would lose a lot more strength to you. So yes I sold down.
You did what you deemed needed to be done from a tactical standpoint, but Roal36 can cry faul for Sephiroth and then think the same move from you will not be commented on.
How much did it cost to raise yourself back up to 6k?
Not more then it can be repeated if needs to be! and as many times as it takes!
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55 minutes ago, Lucius Optimus said:
Oh yay. You're stomping a nation with less than a quarter of the wonders you have and at under 3k ns.
Oh, you like you had in mind for me and other LPC members
Congrats Meth. You suck.
So do you!
I would have had that nuke off to. But I was failed by the server gods.
I wish I had some nasty remark to this one, But target or not I know how f...... frustrating this can be! I feel for you
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1 hour ago, Rayvon said:
Let's not discuss facts while you call age over that !@#$%*: you're already missing facts yourself. Your forum account says March 2008; that jackass is a year older than you. Check your facts as well
I was leading alliances in this world before either of you found your way into it.
Did not call age on him, he called age on me! and have done so before. I dont know how old he is. But I have been around long enough for him not to call age!
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13 minutes ago, Rayvon said:
Let's not discuss facts while you call age over that !@#$%*: you're already missing facts yourself. Your forum account says March 2008; that jackass is a year older than you. Check your facts as well
I was leading alliances in this world before either of you found your way into it.
If you was leading an alliance before 2th november 2006 then that is true!
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13 minutes ago, Rayvon said:
lol - I can't stand Junka, but lol at this anyways ... You know that piece of !@#$ has been around being an idiot and getting kicked around for his stupidity for several years with a little hiatus in between? You've been here for what? Two years? I have dingles in my ass hair older than you.
Talking with out even checking if your facts are correct! Try and see how old my forum account is and I was on BOB before I got a forum account! My first nation was created 2th november 2006.
and I bet that when legion was crushing NSO, I was nuking your ass!
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2 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said:
I am not tolerant of any viewpoint that does not reflect reality. That does not mean, however, that I attack people for having different opinions like LPCN does.
Methrage has a history of trying to get noobs to be his meatshields, some of my members can attest to that, so I am going to call him out whenever he repeats his antics.
You are not tolerant PERIOD!
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4 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said:
It was not groundless at all, it just so happens that Methrage failed to absorb COBRA's membership when Lucius and Severus returned.
Then tell me what reason you have for claiming that we poach C0BRA's members when all we did was sending a message, durring WARTIME, to C0BRA's member that encourage them to surrender and leave their AA and go else where (as long as it is not an AA we disapprove of) and if they want they are invited (not threaten) to join us too.
And no, there are no other views regarding civilization that are valid.
So much for accepting other peoples view on things, but guess I should be grateful for the short lesson.
According to Methrages own rhetoric LPCN AAs are not sovereign, because if they were, leaving LPCN would not be "treason."
It is not treason be course they leave. It is the way they do it.
But it does not matter what we say or do! You are hell bend on us being the evil in your univers how ever twisted it is!
If you at some point have a real complaint then fell free to take contact if not then Neeh.....
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6 minutes ago, Lucius Optimus said:
There you go claiming dominion over COBRA again.
Meth is talking about the period where we was named Cobra, durring that period if you was to join Cobra you would have to accept him as leader. Now it is a friend of Meth that has control of the Cobra AA and I am thinking that he is not likely to give it to you in the current situation.
By trying to push FAC into Libertarian Cobra you were denying autonomy. Because I know what the hidden meaning of that is. Since the aNiMaLz-LoE war is always the same. "Join our cause freely " is code for "vote Libertarian Empire....or else. "
I tried responding to you pm I really did...but I couldn't think of anything that wouldn't get me in the same situation.
No, that thinking part is a tricky one!
So the Snake strikes first.
And miss
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50 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said:
None of my members have made individual threats to attack LPCN as members like Montezuma and The Rebel have pledged to attack the Imperium. However the Imperium as an alliance always reserves the right to act on a valid Casus Belli if deemed necessary. Such an action would not take place without extensive diplomatic efforts beforehand, unlike the wildcard manner in which LPCN operates.
As to duels, it's something I generally do not approve of, but Galerion has earned that privilege if he so desires.
When I use the term civilized, it is not meaningless propaganda... I would suggest reading The Meaning of Freedom by Vladimir, an essay written in 2007. According to his essay a truly civilized alliance adheres to several basic tenets, such as having a strong alliance sovereign lifting the alliance out of chaos. What this means is that individuals of an alliance do not run around and threaten individual wars; doing so places the collective alliance body in a position of culpability if not diplomatically resolved.
In the case of LPCN, which is a network of semi-autonomous AAs without sovereignty, an action by one AA places the entire network in a position of collective culpability, which was the basis of the Imperiums Casus Belli when Animalz attacked Supernova X and triggered the War on Terror.
QuoteOn 06-05-2016 at 7:38 PM, Galerion said:
Montezuma should you ever get your ns up to my range feel free to challenge me to a dual, I'd like to see if there's any bite to back up your bark.
UPS! one member did! But he have earned the right to do so. Could you please inform us about what other privileges he or others in SNX may have earn. We would not like to take offence with out course.
Also if it is so bad that Rebel and Montezuma makes threats to you in a thread (not about you) where you act as ........, how am we to take the groundless accusation of poaching from the leader of SNX?
In regards to the term Civilized am I correct to assume that there are multiple views on how to expound and understand it? If yes then lets take the philosophy lessons a other time !
About that old war from before I joined Limitless Nexus: That is BS! You may have a problem with one of the alliances. Said Alliance may even have a done things that are deserving of PZI, But unless the other alliances in that BLOCK comes to the defence of the quilty AA, you dont have a valid CB. Same with Rebel and Montezuma they may jump up and down, but they are not in a position to care out anything and should they try then please by all means come to us and we will work a solution out. It is not like we are not civilized.... Oh damm I forgot we are not
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31 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said:
I see nothing uncivilized about our posts, we merely provided political commentary. For "libertarians" It's funny how quickly folks like The Rebel resort to threats of violence when we exercise free speech.
You said you dont do duals and called it uncivilized, But hey you challenged a member of ours.
You keep making threats by calling this and that a CB.
You accuse us of poaching actual COBRA members, even tough you know it is a part of our individuel terms.
If this in not at least provoking then you have a very weird idea of what provoking is!
and the best part you do it in threads that are not even remotely about you.
It seems like you have an unhealthy fixation with us. Do your self a favor forget about LPCN, LN and Methrage for 48 hours. It will do you good and you will learn that SNX have not been messed with by us in any way when you come back.
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2 hours ago, Immortan Junka said:
I provoked nothing, I merely commented and LPCN members, as usual, flew off the handle, showing the typical lack of discipline and restraint. I did caution LPCN against an aggressive war against FCA, back when Methrage was talking about "raiding" them.
Amusingly, FCA was on the fence and was very close to supporting LPCN.
I feel I have done a service by illustrating the character of LPCN to new nations that didn't know any better.
Below you can see post of you and your Galerion. being less the civilized and peace loving.
Besides you have said that we poaching members, even though you know that offering terms to an enemy durring war has nothing to do with poaching. I for one find that provoking!
On 06-05-2016 at 7:38 PM, Galerion said:Montezuma should you ever get your ns up to my range feel free to challenge me to a dual, I'd like to see if there's any bite to back up your bark.
On 06-05-2016 at 7:50 PM, Immortan Junka said:I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
On 06-05-2016 at 8:31 PM, Galerion said:I may take you up on that at some point (no need for Junka as well) although you not being at war with someone is a rare event and I already know what your bite is like.
Considering we are at peace now, if your fellows want to talk smack about us they shouldn't be afraid of a friendly dual. No need for you to step in for them.
On 06-05-2016 at 10:06 PM, Galerion said:I'm not suggest now Montezuma whenever you feel ready is fine with me.
On 09-05-2016 at 0:08 AM, Immortan Junka said:Except that's exactly what you did, renaming Limitless Nexus to COBRA and poaching actual COBRA members. You have no historical tie to COBRA, but Lucius and Dr Strange do.
Considering you are occupying what used to be their AA, I would not see an attack against the Free Cobra Army as being anything but an act of aggression.
On 09-05-2016 at 0:08 AM, Immortan Junka said:Except that's exactly what you did, renaming Limitless Nexus to COBRA and poaching actual COBRA members. You have no historical tie to COBRA, but Lucius and Dr Strange do.
Considering you are occupying what used to be their AA, I would not see an attack against the Free Cobra Army as being anything but an act of aggression.
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24 minutes ago, Lucius Optimus said:
I don't care at the moment. There is a war to fight and I will take all volunteers.
If they felt beaten they wouldn't have come. They all knew we where heading for a fight somewhere.
These was accepted before the war started, So you planed the war from day 1?
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28 minutes ago, Dr Strange said:
Well, he did say he didn't care...
So he did! and I am sure some one will remind him of that when it is time for peace.
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2 minutes ago, Lucius Optimus said:
Cheat to win. I have no skin in the whole dishonerable surrender as I never have. I was never aware of surrenders, not that I care at present.
You most have been aware of the fact that many of the people on your AA have been in C0BRA durring the war and since the war is not over it should as a minimum have occurred to you to check it out. If not then you really should step down and let better people step up.
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21 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said:
You are not very experienced in this world, it is considered very bad when a member threatens war against another alliance and he remains a member, and it means such activity is sanctioned by govt. In fact such a thing is a classic Casus Belli.
We don't do duels, the Imperium fights as a unit and we only go to war over something very serious as our members are civilized and love peace. Every major war except one in our entire existence was defensive in nature.
Just like it is bad form for gov. members provoking the members of other alliances time and time again. So behave like the civilized and peace loving people you claim to be.
And I have been around for much longer then you! and seen much more then you.
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19 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said:
The Rebel and Montezuma both threatened violence against my members because we said that LPCN's behavior is stupid, along with The Rebel's spy attack against myself we have ample reason to consider LPCN a hostile entity.
I see and it was not like you and your member was not provoking! Beside you very well know that none of these members hold places in gov. So hold them to their promises of a dual after the war. instead of acting all puffed up!
lol
I was leading alliances in this world before either of you found your way into it.
FCA declaration
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Starting from the bottom up. Of course you cant get utterly destroyed on BOB its a game, just like you cant get assassinated, we both just playing with words here
No you did not say "Evil", but it was what you meant and I was paraphrasing.
and had you gotten a protector or joined a stronger alliance then they could not have keept a PZI on you. This is the way things have been on BOB as long as I can remember. And it for sure does not excuse the war you started on LPCN or C0BRA.