Moridin
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As for your post in this thread, "I direct, others do." You are very full of yourself. You say that like whatever good has been done in NpO has been your idea and you told people to do it.
I... I don't believe it. Grub makes a very modest post, giving others much of the credit for the progress Polar has made, and you try to misrepresent that by taking bits and pieces and taping them together to make it look like he is taking all the credit. I'm impressed, really, I wasn't sure it was possible to draw the entirely opposite meaning out of what was really a pretty clear post.
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At least you are owning up to it.
May we never cross paths again.
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Respect is earned; courtesy is given.
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What a fantastic treaty! And what a fantastic number of nukes! As Azaghul said, this is incredible considering where MK and Polar were a year ago.
As for whoever mentioned the tremendous number of signatures on this - we don't usually have so many, but I think everybody wanted to get their name on this, myself included.
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We'll get our justice, never you fear. It'll come with the passing of time.
...it'll be hard to get that when sponge is no longer here.
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Oh drama how I missed thee.
It's actually kind of confounding to me how many people are taking what Zha is saying at face value.
I wouldn't dismiss the stuff that does not directly involve him. Anything with him personally (his interactions, the Ivan/TrotskysRevenge coup, etc), I would flat out ignore, but there is a lot of other content there that quite simply he has no reason to lie about because he is no longer trying to enforce a Party line other than absolving himself of all blame for NPO's mistakes.
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August 32, 2009
I think the Gregorian calendar was just fine, thanks!
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Excuse me for interrupting this amusing argument, but someone should go back and catalog all the Vox propaganda threads from that war.* Some of us put out some good stuff that first week.
* I would do this myself, but I'm too lazy. That, and I don't care to sort through the rest of the garbage on the boards.
Most of them have been recorded here. Due to the sheer number of them in the early days of Vox, I am sure some have been missed, but all the most important Vox Populi threads (excluding the This Week in Pacifica series) are there, including my personal favorite, when a Ragnarok member announced one of our milestones.
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Your spears are no match for our bullets
Anyway, I hope this is a fun fight RE! Good luck to everyone.
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this is actually the first time I've ever seen anyone in frostbite post.
Most of us aren't really all that interested in the politicking that goes on in CN:TE; personally I'm just here for the war. I wouldn't expect to see much Frostbite forum presence at all this round.
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I have gold and wheat.
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Monetary support? Isn't that usually considered an act of war?
I thought making declarations of war was an act of war too until that whole business with the Family, and now this 'tech raid'. I guess you never know these days.
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Yeah, we're hitting Polar in 20 minutes.
Invoke your doctrine and protect us from the NSO threat!
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Should I get my post from the other thread where I talk about the Pacifica-Polaris rift? And besides, yes there may be a skeleton of fact in De Profundis, but that does not change the fact that its been dressed up on so much other stuff that the skeleton has little bearing on its final shape. If you think the BR was happy about the Polaris situation, you are dead wrong.
I never said your Body Republic was happy about it, I'm saying that your government waged a propaganda campaign against its own members, and this has been explicitly confirmed by at least four people involved in it, namely Doitzel, Seasons of Love, Doppelganger, and Dilber, who was in charge of it. Of course that was not the only point of De Profundis, but that part has been, in its entirety, confirmed by NPO members. If you can point out any actual inaccuracies in De Profundis other than vague references to how it was 'dressed up', I welcome you to do so.
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Oh ok. I guess we just made up the Coven, too? And maybe there is some basis of fact in De Profundis, but its so buried beneath all the spin and innuendo that it is ridiculous to try and present it as some kind of academic expose of Pacifica. And if thats the reason people don't like Pacifica, well they must like many other alliances either. I can't remember any alliances that have come out and admitted wrongdoing.
Not only was the content of De Profundis confirmed by Dilber, it was also confirmed by Seasons of Love in a lengthy post on your own forums, though it was portrayed as an innocent attempt to protect the NPO Body Republic from the shock of you all hanging Polar out to dry. It might still be in the Emperor's Office, you should take a look.
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Ah, the memories. Vox Populi in its finest hour was something incredible to be a part of, and I am proud to be able to call myself a founder.
Hail Vox Populi!
Hail the true August Revolution!
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Indeed. It seems odd that he'd declare his intention to reform and request a second chance from this community just hours ago on the [OOC] OWF [/OOC] and then act in this abominable way.
He has a tendency to make an apology, beg for another chance, and then scorn it by acting in such a way that he needs to make an apology again. It is simply a matter of how many times he goes through this cycle before a given community gets tired of him.
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An excellent treaty!
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Congratulations on peace. This whole mess was really unnecessary, so it's good to see it resolved in a reasonable manner.
And then the world rests in peace, comfortable in the knowledge that we will never hear about Sileath or Rebel Virginia ever again.Not likely....
Not bloody likely. I already have a new alliance lined up, will be joining in a few days.My condolences to them.
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Sorum is our Consigliere - MoFA. He is not the Godfather, that is BlackjackCF, our Underboss is Magicalbricks.
I realized that and revised my post. Please re-read it.
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I like how our alliance attacking other alliance consists of ONE war declared by ONE person.
I'm pretty sure if we were hell-bent on starting a war we would have brought out more people than ONE person.
Well, one of the big indicators is that it was your alliance's MoFA. Or do leaders not represent their alliances anymore...?
edit: MoFA, not leader.
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Hey, another fan! Sup Doitzel. You can go ahead and skip over all the events preceding this and just make a lolSileath post.
Or, you can realize that even if FAIL/GDI opposed Sorum's tech raid, they $%&@ed up by attacking uninvolved tF nations. That makes it tF's business.
Your alliance attacked another alliance. All that was lacking was a formal declaration of war; if another alliance's leader attacked Sorum out of the blue, I'm pretty sure you guys wouldn't leave the rest of that alliance alone because they were "uninvolved".
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You're the one accusing me of making threats, good man.
He asked if it was a threat.
The Family is not going to look tough because it can attack a 2 member alliance, nor is FAIL going to gain anything at all by escalating the situation. Now I really am not going to involve myself in this situation any further nor do I intend to make any further posts, but let me just say that if everyone were to take a step back and let cooler heads prevail this whole would probably go away.
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But they both had treaties
Vox Populi had no treaties the first several months of her existence. You all need to give up with trying to subjectively define "alliance" to fit whatever is convenient for you at the time and realize that an alliance is quite simply multiple people flying the same alliance affiliation. There is no grey area and there is no requirement for having treaties just because you want an excuse to call it a tech raid instead of a war.
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Also, VE, though still far from half. At any rate, as Grub said, there is no possible meaning that can be extracted from whether or not an alliance canceled on Polar and later fought for or against Karma because the lines were redrawn so many times from the period of June 2008 - April 2009.