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You sure are trying hard about the down declaring reference but keep trying as if its going to achieve anything. You should tell Stevie to stop going into threads and complaining if you didn't want me complaining about his complaints. If i recall right, wasn't he the one that said he plays to fight. A change of tune when the the boot is on the other foot.
On the bright side, at least you weren't hit by an alliance with 10 MP's/+40 nukes and used on you while you had none. It wasn't just Avengers getting spied and D1/WD's didn't need to resort to dirty spy ops to beat them, these dirty tactics only took some of the credit from their efforts. Sure some Avengers would have had an extra 5 mill but most of them still had +20 mill prior to the war and they sat on big piles of cash while Stevie pursued an early peace. TDO on the other hand, refused a nuclear ceasefire when they were sitting on +40 nukes and 10 MP's while WD's/D1 had 0 nukes and MP's. D1/WD on the other hand have a long history of not using nukes on opponents with no MP's, and D1 have always offered an early peace to their opponents if they feel they need it, D1 and WD's aren't out to completely destroy nations and alliances and cause people to leave the game like TDO have been trying very hard to do in this war but i think they may make an exception for TDO in the future.
The result of that war would have been the same except Avengers would have finished that war with more cash, this is how i know WD's and D1 aren't behind it, and their leaders aren't the type of people that would use these dirty tactics. Those responsible are likely flag runners or a disgruntled person wanting to get some form of revenge but its more likely to be a flag runner creating advantages, probably someone who temp trades but isn't a very good builder so he made sure all of last rounds top earners were penalized early with dirty ops.
Also I'd be careful about telling others to beat down WD's/D1, i mean, you're only in RE.
More Lies, blah, blah, BS talking, hypocritical and biased, post. TDO didn't even use 25% of our nukes, and they were only Used on the nations that had it coming to them for dirty ops.
Also, he didn't tell anyone to beat down WD and D1, he said he hopes TDO does!
Watch your threats DT, I'd be careful of telling other people to be careful....I'd also like to point out
that since you think so lowly of RE, doesn't this mean you feel Misfits did a down declare?
You think you and that bloc can sit over there and make threats and act like you run TE.! Well I'm here to
tell you, you don't! And far more people are pissed that you try and tired that you ruin these rounds.....your no one, and with out yanking D1's chains you wouldn't even have made it this far.
Oh and he has my backing...touch him because he voices his opinion and you will face me in another beat down!Also I'm sure you'll be seeing a lot of references back to this war when BG and TDO call out others for others down declaring and using unfair tactics. This war should go straight into the hall of fame for biggest down declare ever and not surprising Avengers have been doing nothing but supporting it.
Their heroic leaders:
Cazaric
BG
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????Yeah who cares.
Sponsored by Avengers.
What i find amusing though is the fact that many people get upset over these tactics (most of whom are alliance leaders) yet you think its only me because i speak out against all of it on the OWF. Sure, keep thinking its just me, I told the Avengers this and I'll tell TDO, I'm the least of your worries. I'll just sit back and watch the fireworks when it starts. Probably reference back to this war. ;)
Again with you trying to act like you run things, making threats, and stuff. If you want to know the truth I have several messages from D1 members that said they are fed up with the BS too. We are all tired of you and this BS you guys do, talk about other alliances behind their back, plot, scheme and get mad because other alliance leaders don't want in this BS, they want it to stop. your so blinded by hate that you can't even see the whole reason this war happened was to stop the tyranny that bloc has brought to this round.
Yes, TPC and avengers have war'd, same with WD, and recently D1(now that Cowboy back stabbed SG)
It's a war game! But this holding grudges, and complaining about everything is worse than anything.
It's time to move on, get over it and plan the next war....sure we expect to see D1 or WD at some point in the future in this round that's fine.
o/ peace
I ask that everyone give D1 and WD 15 days to rebuild
Thanks
BG -
This is the rubbish you guys keep spewing to justify your own down declares, more NS is because they have more members but that does not make them the stronger side so quit lying out of your teeth about not knowing this.
Do show me how D1/WD's are winning? TDO have every major advantage, they're taking very minimal losses and going by the war chest levels we've seen, they can't afford heavy losses so they waged one of the softest wars on record to cover themselves.
Hia sweetness! I do love our little talks and walks in the park :)
However I do hate when you lie and we fight. It's just not worth it baby girl *BG blinks, blinks *
So please stop your BS now, stop the crying and complaining and telling lies.
Also, could you explain to me and the rest of TE what "every major advantage" TDO has?
I'll give you the first one, nukes :) but now you have helped them, and several other nations in D1 have them
and even one nation had a MP when we attacked. You guys also have SDI's to help against those nukes.
Now your turn, what's the rest? It's definitely not numbers as that side has 18 more nations that US.
While your at it explaining things, please explain why it's ok for you and your side to do everything
You have berated and scrutinized TA for, and now US? Everything!
Thank you most honorable and moral person that has ever gifted us with your presence in TE.
Your most humble noob :)
BG
Your turn player! -
But to be honest, i don't exactly spend all day dreaming about that war, not at all really. TE to me is a team game, not an individual game so i do everything for my team, regardless of my own personal ambitions.
Lol, says the girl who just jumped ship to destroy her nation! No, you just spend all day trolling the forums telling lies
and spreading hate for people that disagree with you. Now you sing a different tune because you know Alex was alway in the right!
You come up with more shiat then my kids do, how old are you 13?
BTW, why don't you tell Alex what you reall said about Citidal!@BGhttp://imgur.com/fPtgjnD
I've never done this from my phone before, so hopefully that works. :3
Thank you SW, I do appreciate that!
Since I also have no idea how to get a screen shot on my iPad to here, I'll send you something via message.
BG -
Talking BS is over now! Time to put all those threats into action now. Check your war screens and re-buy your soldiers.
This is cute.
o: Daenerys Targaryen From: BurningGlory Date: 5/2/2015 4:54:53 PMSubject: RE: War Declared!
Message: Sweet, the brave DT takes action :)
This of course just shows your cowardness, you have 2 wars I have 5. Just admit you can't take me on with even war numbers, it's ok to admit it just don't try to act like your some war God!
BG
You declared 3 down declares on nations with no nukes and you used them, all of your opponents are weaker in NS including my own nation. I made 2 up-declares and both have nukes but keep talking BS, that is all your good at. Look who walks the walk and not just talks now. Quickly now go beg for help from your other friends!
Again with your lies, lies , lies, BS, BS!
I hit 2 nations under me and one nation my size...I'm also fighting Fata1 who is basically my size.
That's 4 and you are damn close to my size, that's 5....you have 2 wars close to your size. You are the one that's a coward! Not to mention your late to the party!
You talk of begging for help, lol your a hypocrite! There is no way you would have attacked me with out Fata1, no way at all! I know you and him have been talking, and you both set this up! I also know fata1 went begging for help from other alliances No worries though.....all I see is that Fata1 came to negotiate terms for war and then does these actions, I think the terms might have to change.
Hey I can do that too!
You have just conducted a spy operation against the nation of Dragonstone. In the attack your spy efforts were successful as your spies were able to target and destroy 1 enemy nuclear missile. Although the mission was a success your spies were caught, 20 spies were killed, and your identity has been publicly revealed.
Just what I said I would do, and you got 2 of those! You will get more, and yes you will have your slots full as well Now ain't that sweet! ;)
Like I always said, she is a hypocrite and biased! Everything is all good for her side all is ok as long as they do it! I'm thinking she might just be roughing though, we should find that out for sure, maybe get Fata1's opinion on this. I mean he discussed a completely different standard last night before update.Hey, look. DT is doing exactly what she crucified AoW for last round. Am I surprised? Hell, is anyone surprised? I can't promise you that we will hold back our nukes on you. I feel you've made yourself exception to our rule.
BG -
I'm not a War Doves representative, but I do want to say this. You declare on us, with a huge nuke advantage, meaning we're going to lose the ability to counter in less than 24 hours in a lot of cases, and don't have the stockpiles to deal any real damage. Most of our nations are about a nuke's damage above the 2k purchase req or below it. So even if we bought MP's, most would be nuclear for 2 days at best. To me that's a waste of $10,000,000. Then you offer no econ spy ops? Nukes are generally more devastating than econ spy ops. Whether you like them or not, econ spy ops serve a strategical purpose. When we are likely to be losing on other fronts you didn't really do us any favors by taking first strike econ ops off the table. It was one of limited ways we could fight back.
I specifically mentioned the nuke advantage earlier in this thread to see if you planned on using them, or forgot to mention that you wouldn't be using them in the OP. No official statement was made, so we're then faced with whether or not we feel it's necessary for the defense of our nations to start spying your nukes. That's pretty much a no brainer for anyone who's willing to look at things from our perspective. In fact, spying nukes and defcon should take priority over spying something as dumb as irs. An irs spy op is a complete waste of spy op at this stage. So please don't attempt to make us look like the bad guys for attempting to defend ourselves. Had you told us you didn't plan to nuke us, we would've likely accepted your no econ ops terms, and not spied your nukes. But for all I know, the leaders of D1/WD may still be interested in a no econ spy op war, and that was not sanctioned by gov. My opnions are my own and all I can do is speculate.
About the comment about if War Doves were in the same situation as you, we'd unleash our arsenal: When I was leading War Doves, I never reneged on terms for a friendly war unless the other side did first. While I don't share other people's views on econ ops, every time I was approached with a request to take anything off the table, I always agreed and did whatever I could to communicate specific terms to my members. I let my members know that if they didn't comply with those terms, I would allow the opposing alliance to take their reps from their hide. If we had a huge nuke advantage as you have now, we'd either only nuke nuclear capable nations, or refrain from using them completely. If you're saying that War Doves has truly become so dishonorable in my absense that they are unwilling to do the things I just mentioned, then I shouldn't have come back at all. Would you be willing to give me examples of those instances so I can find out what's been going on?
I'd also like to point out, before people accuse me of "crying" or complaining about this war, I'd like to say that I really don't care. The round resets in a month, and I realize I can't take my meaningless pixels with me. In fact, I really don't even have the time to make this post, as I have so much going on right now. So good luck to everyone (TDO, I don't think you really need it :P), and have a great weekend. Hopefully I get a chance to come out and play as well, though I doubt it. :/
o/
SW, I don't personally know what kind of an alliance WD was or has become. The current leader BE use to be a good friend of mine back in the day, but since I returned 3 rounds ago I have messaged him a few times and he did not respond back. I obviously have no idea why as back then I was a protectorate of his alliance and we war'd together several times. Anyway I can say that I do know that since this war started several of your members have sent "nasty messages" to my guys. I will also say that at the start of this war, any leadership could have come to me or Caz and asked our stance on the use of our nukes.....That didn't happen. Instead, the very first things that did happen "was" what we "did" put into our DoW. That being no dirty spy ops. Several nations had it done and at the same time several nations had some nukes spied and some nations had failed attempts. I can definitely understand the spying of nukes not knowing if they would be used or not. So again I say it was the leadership of WD that should have got a definitive answer to our intentions regarding their use. I have stated that I personally was on the fence about using them at all, and I even post in our announcements section to refrain from using them unless that piticular nation was over whelmed with war and/or targets or if a nation had ops used on them that were dirty or messed with their nukes. I would be more than happy to send a copy of this to you or anyone that would like to see it.
Now, since you state your beliefs on how you would have done things and your stance on everything when you were leading, I must also say that I do find that hard to believe. For one, you tried to get my hands smacked by reporting me for something that was a reciprocation of what was posted to me, about me from DT. Yet you did not report DT for that which was actually what was the act that you tried to report me for. This tells me if anything you are biased and vengeful. Now after that, I could have tattletale on DT and more that likely actually had something happen to her as she did indeed commit that violation. But I did not. As much as I do not like DT, I don't believe in those actions and she was not the one who did it. Yes I have seen her do it to other people before but it was not me. The other thing I will point out is that WD joined a bloc to take out TA and in doing so went against ALL the standard rules WE as the TE community set in place to be fair and honorable. Hitting early, dirty spy ops, standard 10 day rest time to recoup. Clearly this was an attempt to take out Avengers for the whole round, especially how heated DT got knowing that the plans of hitting them again after TPC was stopped by us. So your going to have to forgive me if I find that what you say is maybe not so much as a lie but more professed. Personally I think this has ruined the round, and needs to stop....but let me ask you this, would you have agreed to this "bloc" and spying against TA? If so would you agreed to the attacks with out letting them get their standard 10 day rebuild time?
In order to shorten this response, please read my reply to DD....Well said Samwise. You are truly "wise".
But I do think you guys are forgetting something and that is the fact that the TDO nations that did buy the MP and now have nukes could have used that 10 million to be a lot bigger now and collecting way more cash.
They stumped their own growth just to have those nukes just to now be asked to leave them sit rusting in their silos. That is a tough call for any alliance leader to make. Trust me as I have been there and it didn't work out well requesting such.
At this point I would just hope that the TDO guys use discretion on when and who they use those nukes on.
The way I see it TDO would be having this discussion with just about any alliance they hit since they have the nuclear advantage over all. The guys leading TDO this round seem like a pretty good crew and I just can't see them nuking you guys over and over again until your round is all but over for some of you. Tbh I could see them not nuking those who simply cannot afford to be so and let it be known to them that nukes will most likely finish their round. If the nuke advantage is that much of a hurdle and will indeed all but finish either alliances round then just ask the guys at TDO for an early peace to this war and be done with it. I am all but positive that they would be agreeable to do so as none of them strike me as the "end all" type.
Just my 2 cents on the matter is all.
Carry on and good luck to both sides and as a side note Cowboy and Fata1ity were both very understanding to the early end of our war with them.
I hope you guys at TDO will be the same if they need to end this war with you.
Kind of like the old "whats goes around, comes around" saying here for them then if it indeed does happen. Seems fitting.
This is exactly the feed back many TDO is giving DD, and I have to agree makes complete sense. I mean all of these nations could have used that wonder slot to buy an Econ boosting wonder on top of that 12-15 mil it cost to buy the MP's and nukes. The other thing is after the war that Econ wonder would really help in the rebuild of our nations. I'd also like to point out that these nations we are fighting have advantages like numbers and a shiat load of XP plus I'm pretty sure many nations would of and still will buy MP and nukes to use on us tomorrow or the next day.
TDO is not in the business to crush alliances, or even beat them down. If fact several nations have already sent peace to people we find have no way to fight back, or have no cash to rebuild with.
TDO will give peace to any nation that wants it as long as they agree to that peace and not jump back in.
We are also open to an early end date of this war if this is what the leaders of WD and D1 want.
All we want and ask for is that all this BS stop, stop with the blocs, stop the dirty spy ops go back to the standard rules of the game we all seemed (or majority) agree on. It is our responsibility as the leaders of these alliances to keep this game fun fair as possible. To maintain a certain dignity, honor and morals when playing this game.
Winning is not everything, especially not at the cost it's being done.
We can all stand and point fingers at each other, but there is nothing getting done to stop the dwindling numbers in TE. Sadly, the people who cry the loudest are the ones doing nothing to stop it, only hurting it.
DT, you don't have a "dog in this race" as you once said, and it's really none of your concern. Your biased opinions are not making a difference other than to make things worse. It is your comments on here that have push our guys to want to unload their nukes. I mean if your going to be chastised for actions that have not even happened then why the hell not! Now you say it "looks like" we are using nukes on nations that will struggle to rebuild, how the hell do you know? That's the same thing as saying "I'm guessing" or "I'm not sure" and you really have no clue.Or miss out 2 letters.
It looks like they are using nukes on those who will struggle to rebuild. If your opponents don't have them then you should have stated you wouldn't use them in the DoW if you're not going to use them, until then anything goes. We all know TDO want to use them, but its a dirty and cowardly act and it wont be forgotten in a hurry. I can assure you that.
TDO have shown their true colors and we all know they're doing this not only to wage a soft war in the hopes they take minimal damages, but also for their friends in Avengers.
Also this coward BG not only makes massive down declares, he starts to nuke them as well. You're lucky I'm not in D1 and i was suppose to be there.
You call me a coward, your the one who didn't build four 2 rounds cause you knew running your mouth would get you a beat down.
I told you I hit the targets I was assigned, I also hit one guy not assigned that was equal to me. I even tried to hit other people cause I thought we had 4 slots, not thinking that's only with a pentagon. It cost me 4 lost ground attacks because I full deployed then tried to DoW then only to be told my slots were full. That left me with minimal troops to defend and thus when I got hit exactly at n12:00 am I lost all 4. Stupid mistake, but lack of sleep mixed with long hours at work have a tendency to do that.
Your the one who is a coward, not me! I don't turtle like I've heard about you. And I've never heard of you attacking anyone that would give you a fight.
I'm lucky? No you are the one that is lucky, I would take your nukes and have you crushed by end war. Don't worry though, I'm sure you will get your chance to showcase your most excellent fighting skills down the road and show me how tough you are.
STFU already pet
BG -
should we just go then? me and you DT? :P
Careful ED, she is a killa, just ask her :)
This is one of three I have been informed of/or about, not to mention that several have had nukes spied away. We purposely posted our stance on the spying, we would not do so other than Intel and defcon.Sigh. You can't pretend we weren't upfront about this.
We were uncertain about rather we should use nukes during this war and was was going to post that we hold off. Apparently WD and/or D1 are cool with using everything in there arsenal and now I have no doubt that if they had nukes and we didn't, they would use them on us....it also reminds me of my first round back when D1 hit TPC and I got nuked even though both nations that hit me had nukes and both were well above my infra lvl (one even at 1000+). At this time I say weapons go, throw them if you got them!
We were really hoping for a fun clean war, to see what we were capable of.
BG -
Regardless to what he thinks you seem to bash him every time he post, he is in titled to post what he thinks reguardless of which side he thinks is right or wrong.You seem to be the only person that thinks anyone is associating Citadel with anything.
The reality is someone has to challenge these ridiculously powerful alliances and unfortunately it may require some of us to combine our strengths to try and match their own. This is what TE is and has always been about, and that's keeping wars as fair as possible even if that means combining stats. Of course no one is surprised that Citadel are on the side line, no one has ruffled your feathers and it seems you're capitalizing on the situation but i know people still respect Citadel for at least not supporting and strengthening them anymore. And when i say "them" i means those who want to dominate everything and everyone that get in their path while never having to fight a war where they don't have all of the major advantages, both of whom are new alliances.
Let me put it to you just as simple and as plainly as I can DT, you know that very thing you said just a post or 2 ago where if we were To attack you guys you wouldn't blame us cause it's not our fault that you guys didn't stockpile nukes....Well it's also not our fault that D1 and WD rolled TA and NM instead of building to Day 15 like everyone usually does. As stated before, they have had way more time to rebuild than TA was given before TPC rolled in. Your just mad as you pointed out that we stopped the next wave of attacks against TA, yet you have the audacity to sit and complain about down declares. Something is truely screwed up in your head! Call it bipolar, or what ever it is that thinks you can punch someone in the mouth and think there is no justification to punching you back.
I don't think you have the mental capacity to see that this round could have all been different had the standard rules been followed. Oh I forgot, the rules only apply when they suit you and yours, not to mention you make up your own rules...Typical adolescent female mind you have there baby girl.
Your turn
BG -
Lets not try and make comparisons with the AW/NDO war and this BS. They're moslty newbies, most of TDO have many well known veterans of CN, in fact many are known Spartans from SE.
It was both AW/NDO's first war, neither alliance started with nukes, I'm aware one nation from AW's used 2 nukes which was upsetting to see and i did consider evening those odds myself. The numbers were exaggerated by the likes of yourself because some of AWs' members weren't even 5 days old so they couldn't war, you tired to make out that didn't matter because they will eventually enter as if a 5 day old nation will make a big difference. NDO are the veteran alliance so they should have been more prepared and RoadRash stated this. AW are made up of very inexperienced players and because of this they made a mistake but one they knew they would learn from, their leader said they wanted to first test and gauge their abilities and i have nothing against those who don't overestimate their strength like so many have. Now that they know how well they can perform, you may see some even match ups from them. You on the other hand, never gave them a chance and instantly scorned them for it. You're true intentions for abusing them is because you assumed they're with D1 and are doing their bidding which only showed your bias towards D1. I know D1 ignore you and they rolled your friends, why wouldn't you be mad. I went into that thread and wished both warring parties good luck and it didn't take you long and ethat was used against me for not giving a new alliance and players a reason why they shouldn't play TE but you made an efforts to do that very thing. Everyone deserves a chance, and i said nothing to Avengers for the entire 33rd round, i watched on the sideline while they continued to do what i oppose them for now. They were in fact given an entire round of chances before i started to oppose them but you wanted AW to get none.
Why would Misfits jump D1? They're still trying to recover from their last war, it'd have been a down declare but obviously not as extreme as your own.
We will first try to target alliances that hadn't yet warred, friendly or not, we're playing TE not SE. TDO would obviously be at the top of the list since you're the strongest alliance, no bias involved, that is how we operate by attacking the next strongest up or straight across no matter who they are. Our friends will remain friends off the battlefield, but on the battlefield, we are enemies and we hope our friends see it the same.
Obtaining the stats wasn't possible so we were reliant on TDO to combine some of us, Misftis/ Citadel or OP/Citadel would have been the only fair fight regardless of your nuke advantage, its not your fault we hadn't started stockpiling nukes earlier and we would have to just bite the bullet. Of course there was chance you wouldn't use them and we'd have walked away without a high possibility of life long vendettas.
We won't go out of our way and move mountains to guarantee we can completely dominate everyone else without a fight, we are not the Avengers. Misfits plays to war and Misfits have a solid history of doing their best to make offensive wars as fair as possible as do many other alliances.
If you want to declare war on me, you're more than welcome too? I was expecting us to fight anyway and i was looking forward to it. Come at me and i will promise you, no other Misfit will get involved. Get your other opponents to peace out and lets have a 1v1? All 3 of your opponents are less than half your size and none have MP's and you like to go around calling out everyone else for down declares. You should take a look in the mirror. I seriously can't stand your type.
Put your money where your mouth is sunshine! To even the contest, I'd still be a down declare for you. Lets settle this! Give the word and I'll declare, I'll message the others to peace out.
Bla bla and more blas. Keep trying princess!
This play was obviously taken straight out of the Avengers play book. We all know most of you have low war chest levels which is why you needed a soft war. You're really just a bunch of noobs trying to be elite. Now that everyone knows how TDO operate, basically another Avengers, don't complain when others do the same back.
This is about to get good baby girl....
I've called you out on so much of your BS, it ain't even funny. You back step, lie, spin things and make excuses for everything you post. And 99% of what you post is bashing TA, or anyone who calls you out on your BS.
Yes, yes I'm going to compare AW attacking NDO to our war, but the only reason I even did so was because you are so full of biased shiat that it had to be pointed out. Oh, it was AW first war, you made it worse then it actually was, blah blah blah.....I did not state anything that was not true so there for it was not worse than it was. You say AW had noobs and it's ok to down declare if you have noobs, you don't want to take a war that you might actually loose, yet last round FF (new alliance, with noobs) hit misfits and D1 with AoW (new alliance, with noobs) and you were one of the biggest cry babies there were, and that wasn't even a down declare! So now I've shot your "they are noobs" BS all to hell, let me move to the next point.....Of their 16 nations that attacked 8 NDO, yes there was some who could not fight initially, like 4 or 5, but only for the first 2 days of that war. There was only 2 nations that couldn't attack. So that's still 14 nations to 8, and then you have NDO, who of that 8 1 or 2 couldn't fight either, so the odds just went back up. Then you add way more nations with that higher NS lvl (you know the stats that now matter to you in our war) more tech and the fact that NDO only had 3 nations that were actually not noobs, RR being one of them. But wait I'm not done, you keep saying AW were new and had noobs, but the truth is their top 5 guys came from D1. So yeah, the alliance was new but the leader was not which everyone will agree, there is no excuse to use for that so you can shove that excuse up your rear.
And sure now your going to post that you were thinking of evening up those odds, how convenient for you to do so well after the war. Truth be told and I'm the only one telling it, you had no intentions of doings so because you didn't want to piss off CB and Fata1 I do appreciate you bringing up the nuke thing, I sure did not see you post in that thread that you were disappointed in AW for using nukes when NDO had none, only now when the same situation happens to D1. Yet more proof that your biased!!
Now let me tell you something that's going to blow your mind, you think I don't like AW because I think they are a D1 spinoff. Not true, not true at all! In fact, TDO and AW have ties, yeah that's right! What those ties are, are no of your business. But let's just say that those ties is why I got so heated when they attacked NDO. Let that spin in that box you call a brain.
And now, after we hit D1 and WD, you say we should have hit you guys, lol! Then even post that you wouldn't complain, it's not your fault that you didn't stock pile nukes like us, OMG, that is amoung the top funniest shiat you've said!!! Everyone, and I do mean everyone knows that is a BS statement if ever their was one. You would have cried so bad and there would be walls upon walls of boohoo about how we hit you. Man your not even a good lier anymore. Are you not happy that we changed things up? I mean, we war'd you guys several times last round, did you really want a repeat of that? Like I said me and your co leader had a convo, things were changed and I'm sure this is for the best of both our AA's
Lastly, I do love your open invitation to come attack you, and yes I would most definitely destroy you....I'd take those nukes from you and beat you so low you wouldn't be able to by them back. But on the real you only made that comment because you know I'm not going to leave this war and my peeps for a pissing match with you.....remember you said it, I have nukes to hand out! But don't you worry that day is coming, you will get your chance to see why I'm a beast ;)
Oh I forgot, not all three of my targets are a down declare one is on par with me. If you must know, I was given my targets and albeit I think the 2 I was given should have been higher, I have faith that my war coordinator had his reason for this, and besides, like I said one is not and I do have one more open slot itching to be used.Careful what comes out of your mouth before we make you non existent this round.
Stop with the threats KB, it's not you or have I over estimated your honor? Besides that this round doesn't last much longer and I'm pretty sure TPC will not be joining anymore witch hunts with D1 and WD so let's keep things cool.That is indeed a fact and I will tell you a fact of my own. Citadel, OP and Misfits have not warred at all so lets not try to justify this down declare because D1 and WD's have had a longer rest than the others that have warred. What is that like 3 other alliances, 2 of whom peaced out yesterday? If you didn't want me to start, you really shouldn't have started.
You might even be wrong on this fact of yours since RE and NM were at war first.
First off, I don't WAR my friends especially with out going to them first and saying hey how do you feel about a friendly war? Ask KB, I did this very thing with him last round, still even have the screen shot of the messages we exchanged. TPC, Citadel, and even OP are among my friends, Now that's not to say that I talk to anyone of them on a regular basis. Cause I don't, but there are many, even in my own alliance that I don't talk to for days to weeks. Now end round war, well that's a different story.....I was even going to put TA opposite of us last round just so they had the chance to fight alongside TPC or OP. It just didn't work out like I wanted.
Oh yeah, I even remember you complaining about that war and it was as fair as fair could be.
But I've realized unless we are fighting with our backs against the wall, your never going to agree so I
could care less about your opinion.
I think it does make sense KB, I truely do! Sure we could have hit you guys but who else, who else is even left?Logically speaking, anyone who can add and subtract numbers could see this war makes absolutely no sense compared to what could have happened. So if TDO hit these guys? Who's been spying me with their CIA. :) if you wanted my warchest so bad just message me. Or observe the awards page enough I'm sure you can get an idea
As stated above, I'm not going to hit Citidel or OP. I'm not sure who spied you, maybe someone else has plans to attack you but I know for sure it was not us? Besides that I already knew what you had as you your self stated.
BG -
How many times have I seen alliances post NS for stats in war, now you say it has nothing to do with it?Their first move as an alliance, what a joke.
NS has nothing to do with it.
Its about eliminating 2 alliances that may have warred you again after your war with TPC so you get more time to recover and try to regain your dominant position.
TDO not only picked a soft war but opponents with 0 MP's that are still broke and recovering from their last war. They will mostly come out without a scratch on them
Are you freaking serious? Really? Please read what you just posted! That is the most contradicting biased BS you have ever posted! Let me say it for you, it seems that this the only way you will pick up on this ridicules statement you made;
Oh, whine/cry this is about eliminating 2 alliances that might try to beat down The Avengers (yet again) after their war with TPC. That way you guys might actually get a chance to build enough to defend yourself against the next onslaught of attackers.
The terrible TDO, picked the softest war they could, why they don't even have MP's. Plus they are broke and recovering from the last war. Omg how can anyone agree to this, TDO is so terrible.
Now let me point out your biased BS. Notice how you said we hit "2" alliances that might roll TA after their war with TPC? Yeah that! So it's ok for D1 and WD to hit TA with far far more time to recover than they would have let TA do after this TPC war, right? Then it was mighty fine for WD and D1 to not only roll NM (a new alliance, that you so called love to see) but to curb stomp TA too. Only to have TPC roll in not even 7 days of rest for them. Wait now let's get to the real problem that you have, we hit "2" AA's that you say we're going to hit TA yet again? Really?
Well let me tell you they are not as broke as you think, and they have had way more time to build than TA did before they were attacked by TPC.
So STFU With that BS! -
I'm no stranger to wishing warring parties GL.
You assume i complain and start dramas everywhere i post but if you were to take a closer look at all those threads I've argued in, I'm rarely the one who starts them.
As for the war, its good to see new alliances and i welcome them.
Its a down declare but they're young, its their first war so they have a lot to learn, I'm sure they'll get better at finding fair wars in the future but its always good to see fresh fish. :P Go easy on the old timers at NDO, they're not as young and resilient as they once were, except Road Rash of course. ^_^
Remember this post DT? Yet another post that you lie in and show your biased BS.
Everyone please use the next post by this POS player to demonstrate her unyeilding hatred for those she hates.This is probably one of the biggest down declares I've ever seen, its really a mass raid.
So basically if you're friendly with TDO, they won't ever hit you so is that like everyone else except D1 and WD's? This war is BS and you all know it is. This won't even be counted as a real war so enjoy the XP raid.
Oh, here we are....this is the scorned baby girl I know so well! Go a head and let your biased BS flow out that trap of a diarrhea mouth.
It seems if your side does it, then there is every excuse in the book why it's justified. "Oh TA had it coming", "oh they are new". Truth is your nothing but a freaking hater that is biased against anyone you think backs TA. Did you ever stop to look at the stats (yes you can get your own, it's very easy, but we will post them soon)?
Did you ever think that maybe we had no intentions of using our nukes? No, you didn't you just assume and give us our path before we even walk it. I'm am so sick and tired of you and your BS!
BTW, who did you want us to hit? I'm curious, point out your fair fight!
First off, we are no ones lap dog. We hit who we want, period!We know what this is all about, and we know TDO are your lap dogs. If you's want to play this game then so be it.
Second, is that a threat DT? Please answer that before I fill up my war slots!
And yes we have friends that we don't want to war with....I mean, I don't see misfits jumping on D1!
We don't need your approval, and I don't care to have it if you did approve!
Before you go running off the mouth, check with your co leader, I messaged him about war.
And lastly, I remember last round when D1 hit avengers with WD and D1 jumped on the nuke wagon thinking they would hit TA with nukes as at the time TA didn't have even MP or SDI's. It just so happened that DD and a few others were out of town and had not used their wonder slot and managed to get their own MP's and nukes.
I guess that would have been fair had TA not been able to use their? Never mind don't answer, you will just come up with another biased excuse.
BG -
Very honorable between 2 of the best alliances in TE!
Congrats to peace and mutual respect!
BG -
You are 100% right and I've stated this many times, I don't discriminate unless you do it to others.
Why are they allowed to down declare alliances but when it happens to them, they complain about it? This is the same concept as using econ ops and having those ops returned and them complaining bout you doing it back. You all have your morals wrong, i don't and i stand by those morals anyday and everyday. Go back to the old threads where we had these dramas with OP/WD's , even then i held the same beliefs and stated it many times over.
You are so full of Shiat! So where are you posting hatred towards AW for their DoW against NDO?
Not once did you let that motor mouth scald them for these same "atrocities" you claim TA does.
Why is this? I'll tell you why, because you know they are a spinoff of D1.But this only confirms what i said, your funneling donations to SE nations in return for TE donations.
I think you took that out of text, but of course only you would....unless it was D1, or anyone but TA, then it's all good!
And you know what, who give a $&@? about that, it's their prize and what they do with it is their business!!
I'm pretty damn sure they could care less about your thoughts on what they do with what they win.Are you trying out for the Avenger cheer squad?
Why, are you jealous? I think PK is smart enough to see your a biased, full of it, hypocrite! And the truth behind everyone's hatred.
I bet you didn't miss this all this BS did you? :P welcome back!Can you not.
Man. There is alot of people yelling about bad wars.. Ive been on both sides... Not every AA Can get a perfect war.. it aint gonna happen. I do not know what has happened last couple rounds.. All I know is I have 3 defensive slots open. Come at me.. There will always be that AA that kinda gets to sit there. Even when RE was around we had to throw in like 6 AAs to make it fair and people still complained. Im like 7 days late to round and doing better than some of these people. Maybe do more coaching of nations and not so much complaining on OWF where you will get nothing accomplished.
Im sure TPC govt has there reasons for wars. Sometimes you have to go with the best of a bad situation.
BTW, I couldn't have said it better, well maybe better but not as short :)
DT, this is someone who gets it! It's a damn game, and no matter what, somebody is going to complain!
I also read in here that someone if not more than that, down declares every round and has every round.
It's been that way since I started playing in round 1 and that will never change.
Speaking of which, you would have never made it in the earlier rounds, just saying....
BG -
I don't have to tell myself anything, you rolled all of the danger players in TPC except for Rock n Rolla. It took them weeks to recover but you can keep telling yourself whatever you'd like.
You didn't create a coalition but you did concentrate a group of experience and advanced players into a single alliance, most of whom look like they're ex-players returning for an easy ride. I found it strange that you invited new players from SE this round to burn for you, I'm sure you knew this was coming, why set them up?
What you've created would be equivalent to TPC, OP ,D1 ,WDs and Misfits taking their most experienced and active players and uniting them to form one alliance but why would they go to those extreme lengths? Unless they wanted to dominate everyone and win everything which i still stand behind is the primary purpose of Avengers and that is to funnel donations to SE nations, one of whom i know is the # 1 ranked SE nation and i know this because i was suppose to have a donation sent to him.
Anyway we know whats going on and has been, no need to try and justify your actions now, its too late for that.
Do you even read the SHIAT you post? You don't even know what your talking about "weeks to recover".
But hey since you brought it up, at least TPC had weeks to recover!
So your saying between TOC, OP, D1, WD, and Misfits they only have 17-18 good nation builders and fighters?
Well first I'm going to tell you that is the second most stupidest and BS comment you have ever made, second only to
you saying you don't lie and blah, blah, blah!
Hippocrates are always the first to say it's fair and make up a reason why, yet the first to cry if the same would happen to them.What is wrong with you? You used to be an Avenger.
Did Stevie sleep with you and never call or something? I ask as I have only seen this level of hate and revenge seeking before from a woman scorned.
And I 100% agree with Stevie about how you just make shiat up to suit whatever story you are telling atm.
I remember the war you are talking about with TPC and I also remember how 5 of our top guys (including myself) never declared on a single TPC nation due to orders from DD (man is he regretting that decision now) as he had quite a bit of respect for TPC and their leader. (hell he might still have it but after this stunt I really can't see how)
How is it that someone such as yourself that notices every crap that an Avenger takes does not remember those facts about that war? Is it because it would make that war seem a hell of a lot fairer than this one that you leave out those facts?
And instead all I see is DT spreading her lies and BS in here just like she has in EVERY fricking thread that even mentions the Avengers.
I can't be the only person in TE that is tired of seeing her wall of texts in every damn thread with our name in it am I?
Lol, I think your on to something here WH....some women can't handle being called out on their BS especially if they look the fool!
And no you are definitely not the only one, it's her BS that got me to become a "cheer leader" as she puts it.
Trust me other people think this war is undeserved.I am going to have to call you on this statement KJ.
[font=Verdana, arial, 'san-serif']You have just conducted a spy operation against the nation of Union Algo. In the attack your spy efforts were successful as your spies were able to gather the following information about the nation:[/size][/font]
Desired Religion: Taoism
Desired Government: Revolutionary Government
Threat Level: Low
Tax Rate: 28%
Number of Spies: 250
Last Nuke Purchase: None
Last Wonder Purchase: 4/23/2015Total Money: $33,624,349
Technology: 329.30 Levels
Last Bill Payment: 4/26/2015 12:37:55 AM
Trade Partners: Limits, utown, Kegkiller, The last Squirrel, bibliotech
Military XP Ratings: Army XP: 2, Navy XP: 0, Air Force XP: 0, Intelligence XP: 0
Assigned Generals: None
Total Aircraft: 60
Aircraft Fighter Strength: 385
Aircraft Bomber Strength: 35
You only have to look at the awards pages to see what your 3 opponents war chests are atm and I am afraid to say none are equal to or more than the above.
I think you already know that the 3 people you hit will fight till the last pixel. No matter what the cost to the rest of their round.
We catch hell for doing so all the time from the other "powers that be" at Avengers.
Hell I can't even spell the word tuttle so I am certain you wont be seeing any of that. Though you did manage to skirt around the nuclear thing I mentioned in my above post.
We going for what could be a round killer for both alliances or what? Inquiring minds want to know. ;)
Everyone knows the plot and bloc that took place between TPC, D1, WD, and misfits....they all know.
Any noob can see this was a huge down declare (definitely not the honorable TPC I know and Luv).
But I will try not to put my foot into my mouth when I say, TPC is NO "D1", as bad as this is, and looks on TPC's part,
I believe they know what bringing nukes into this would create.
BG -
BG your right this is an easy fight for AW ..
but the NDO member who do build and want to fight will not complain we know the ways of TE ( all 3 of us lol )
i feel sorry for there new nations tomorrow when Im out of anarchy muhahahhahahahahahah
RoadRash
Spoken like a true warrior RR, I have no doubt you will give'em hell!O bud that is a real bad response
What your saying is you looked for the weakest kids in the playground and took there lunch money
You will be seeing me a lot this round :)
OMG I just about feel out of my chair, lol! Funny shiat! I think they will be getting a bit more than they bargained for :)Alpha Wolves are here to stay, their numbers are great for a starting AA. Czar has experience in warring, look for them to become a veteran AA. Good luck to both partys, NDO has some cards to play.
Yeah, I don't doubt that, half the AA is D1....otherwise you'd not even bother to post. Unless it was NDO being the bully to AW.B-)
Wow...! Probably the shortest "speech" from Daenery's Targaryen in a lot of time, here! :o Lol! :laugh:
I know right, all that "I only stand for fairness" BS she is always trying to shove up TA's rear end!
Let everyone see, NOW you see the real DT, when it comes to her side she has nothing to say.
And there you have, right out of the "wolves" mouth!haha I wouldn't say the weakest kids....they were a step or two up from the weakest kids on the playground......
The wolves needed a win to start off with. Im sure the wolves will loose some down the road but their first war is going good.
Wolves don't pick fights with bears, they look for sheep...but if a bear messes with the wolves then we got a fight on our hands.
So what you saying is you didn't actually look for the weakest kids on the play ground, just the ones you knew you could beat up? And you never did answer my question, "based on your DoW your not sending in you new nations?" as it stands with just what you have it's very close to a curb stomp....throw those new nations in and well, it will most defiantly be.
BG -
Glad to see another new alliance, even though you guys have a several (3-5) veteran members :)Some Stats:
Alpha Wolves: 16 nations (1 inactive, 4 to young to attack) , 6,000 Average NS, Three 10k+, Five 5-10k, Eight under 5k
NDO: 9 nations, 5,700 ANS, One 10k+, Four 5-10k+, Four under 5k
This just seems to be a down declare. Your "young" nations will be able to attack soon(2 days), and you didn't take into account their Inactive's or under built nations compared to yours. The reason they have 5,700 ANS is they have 8 fewer nations than you guys, As the more nations you have the lower your ANS is. Not to mention your own stats give you guys more nations at higher ANS.
Just saying you guys are new but there were a few AA's closer to your Size and ANS.
Based on you DoW, I'm guessing you guys won't send in your newer nations when they are able to attack?
BG -
This BS is almost at BG level.
Well you just got rolled by two of them and I have a good feeling you'll get to see more of these AA's first hand. ^_^
I didn't know you thought so much of SG and admit he has high intelligence like my self ;)
I guess that means you agree as well :P
Yeah maybe they will but, maybe they won't....
Lmao! Not sure many people would get this as I don't think WC are located much more than the Mid East US.The nation of the Mittens Citizens waits for White Castle
For those who don't know, they are open at least til 2 am and many all night....been there many a times on the way home from the club :)
BG -
Just because I can really and I didnt attack you with words. You have to stop seeing things that are't there its not a fun way to play the game. But look here are 3 people who said the same thing before I did, but hey I guess facts here aren't needed.
Alex, sadly if you don't agree with DT or if you post something she thinks you shouldn't (regardless that it's true) you get an onslaught of words berating you. You do have a right to post your opinion regardless to what she thinks and I beseech you to keep doing so, do not let her ignorance keep you from doing so!These large walls of BS you keep posting get more and more desperate with every new post. You're trying so hard its just hilarious but keep trying noob. Your time will come too.
Lol, now you try to act like you didn't read it. We all know you read every single word and it's killing you to keep you big mouth shut :PAnd now I'm responsible for all of these destroy money ops too? Why does Stevie still blame me after you said in our private discussions the Avengers don't think its me? Hes the leader so that can't be true.
Also if you really think its not me, can you put a muzzle on your pom pom shaking Chihuahua otherwise known as BG or is this the Avengers spokesperson? He obviously has great interest in Avengers and he likes to accuse others of using multis. It doesn't take a scientist to put those 2 things together and figure out whats going on.
I have a feeling this will be another time that you post something that's just not true, something that somebody "supposedly" said to you. I thought I explained to you last round that I'm TA's official, unofficial spokesman. I didn't accuse others of multis, what I did was accuse "YOU" of either having a multi "OR" a buddy to try and implant them into TDO, maybe I wasn't speaking simple enough
for you when I said that....WE CLEAR NOW!*******Also, we've never had any private conversations so i'm not quite sure where this is coming from?*******
How did I see this coming DT! Yet another example that you are a lying POS! And more proof that you have fabricated conversations with other people. Ez just caught it and called you out on it, in his own polite way :) Your credibility just keeps going down and down every time you open your mouth.I thought i was talking to you, i never actually bothered to cross check nation names :P It was Adamah who said that.
I don't care about BG, it looks like he'll be getting his own alliance Rolled.
I don't care if I'm a suspect, heck I'd put me on the list of suspects too but directly accusing me and placing all the blame on me without a single piece of evidence of something i know i didn't do only tells me you don't care who really did it, you want it to be me and nothing will change your minds. Even if the real culprit comes forwards and confesses, you won't care because it still isn't me.
Amazing! Just Amazing how you thought it was EZ, I'd say that to if I was covering up lies!
Oh you care about me, you care about everything I post, mostly because you know it's true ;)
So now your suggesting that you have the power (going around asking AA leaders to attack TOD) to get us rolled? Wait didn't you just in this thread say your not responceible for getting TA attacked? and didn't you say you only talk to 2 people on IRC? Yet now you propose to know we are getting rolled? And let me guess you will have had nothing to do with it? You keep putting that foot deep in that mouth, it suits you!
OH NO! Please DT, please don't have TDO rolled! I promise I'll shut up and let you continually lie, and destroy every thread you post in. I'll even let you continually condemn The Avengers and castigate everyone that disagrees with you or has their own opinion.
Let me point something out to you about your threats, TDO is not scared of a war! I'd be real careful if I was you, it might be you and/or misfits that get rolled instead of TDO. Your a real POS!Really?
I don't know who makes me laugh more, you or DT.
We have done some of the biggest up declares in the game and yet you 2 just keep on harping about one damn war.
And you will not be alone Das as I am done with this game also my friend.
Thank you for the kind words and know that it has been a pleasure fighting by your side and learning along the way.
I think Samwise said it best when she said that if a game brings more stress than fun then it is time to find a new hobby (or something along those lines). ;)
I can imagine that it is going to put a dent in admin's pocketbook when we all leave huh?
You and Das don't need to let them get the best of you, honestly this is exactly what DT wants.
She is nothing more than a pathetic lying POS and giving in to her rants means she wins!
I hope you rethink this and the same goes for you Das, this game is not better off with out you guys!
I could go on, but the main point is you need to keep that ferocity that made you guys #1 going.
Tit for tat, fire with fire I always say ;)If we have the highest ANS surely that makes it harder to have up-declares lol. And hey, I did a roll-call before the round started. The vast majority of our members just want to war and get casualties. They don't care about prizes, and tbh neither do I. I'm not Stevie and he isn't the be-all and end-all of tA.
No one from tA is saying that DT forced WD / D1 to attack us - we are well aware that they can and do make their own decisions. We are not saying that having a beating is the problem, none of us are saying that. It is the continuous stream of hatred and poison that is coming from a select few people on here that constantly turns the OWF into a whole lot of drama that is ruining it for me.
So basically, we should use this as motivation to come back and spy everyone else up next round and just try to mess with people as much as possible? And you're right, it is more than obvious that DT can't stand us, she doesn't let it drop for more than a second - I honestly can't think of anyone else who would try to twist around us getting IRS / other spy ops from day 1 and make it into something that we're doing to ourselves.
As I said, war, fighting, honourable opponents - yea, i'm cool with that, if they beat me, good on them. But this sort of !@#$ on here is just frankly exhausting, and i've only been doing it for three rounds. I think it would be very interesting to see how any other AA would react if they were spied in this way from the beginning of the round. I sincerely doubt the term 'slightly hard' would be thrown around when most of your AA is collecting on 23% tax rate lol.
But yea, whatever, i'm over this lol. It honestly isn't worth the effort arguing with you anymore, i'm close to just letting people say w/e the hell they like about us now.
Respect to D1 / WD - as always they have been fighting brilliantly! Much honour and respect to them. Special shoutout to Cowboy / Fatality for the small bits of casual banter I like to throw around, hope you haven't missed it too much this weekend!
\o WD
\o D1
\o tA
I feel and understand everything your saying here Ez. I think you guys coming back next round and give a littleof what your getting now back to the same people who think it's funny or that's it's ok, might be that proverbial "Fight fire with fire" medicine they need. Then let's see if they still feel it's fair and condone dirty ops!
I think you missed it there CB, NM was the one who got raided first, they in turn had 3 nations counter the raid....The problem is they countered the wrong nation. From there it just escalated. The bad part is when RE was threatened to be ZI'd. Obviously the bad move on NM part, and not with in TE standards, but now a days it seems TE standards don't apply. Or does it only apply to certain alliances? Yeah I guess what I'm saying is there seems to be double standards going on now a days in TE. Sad really, because the very same person that I gave props to for posting about new alliances sovereignty and adhering to standards implied in TE has also completely done a 360.Friendly alliance NM is learning about TE. RE mentioned a special thanks for declaring on the bigger alliance raiding RE. Seems RE was raided so they responded to the raids not a war. Any alliance who is raiding others and gets declared on is still open game for response from the raided alliance. It is called raid at your own risk, and rules are sometime set by the individual alliances on careful raiding. NM will learn w/this curve of experience. RE has all rights to respond to any raid warring or not.
Keep it simple, better for all!
I'm by no means trying to bash you here, I think you have seen enough post from me to know when I'm doing that. I just don't understand how you can say one thing, then act another way.
I don't condone NM actions, they needed some teaching but this war will result in the loss of many of those nation.I also give the leader respect for manning up and giving an apoloigy!
TE has definitely changed since I left, a lot of veteran people have quite and the numbers are not even a quarter of what they were when I left. At this rate I give it another year and TE will no longer exist! Is this what everyone wants?
What are you going to do when everyone's so called enemies quit, war each other? Piss off each other because one or the other feels the war was unfair. Trust me someone is going to feel the war was unfair rather it was or wasn't. It's a game, that's all this is, so is it worth causing people to quit.
Can everyone see where I'm going with this?
BG -
Oh so i was responsible for another spy but this time in TDO? I sure have been busy.
I knew this is what you really thought of the war and not this http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/126558-wds-d1-declare-on-avengers-nightmare-movement/?p=3380528
I can't believe people take you serious and some are even dumb enough to follow you in an alliance.
I know it was a harmless post and mine was as well, i was only stating some facts.
No one cares what a paranoid freak thinks who goes out of his way to blame me for everyone's misfortunes in TE. Just because you repeat the same BS over and over, doesn't make it true. Your're only taking advantage of the situation so you can convince everyone to roll me because your hatred for me over takes any rational thinking, now you blame me at every turn. How do we know its not you doing it so you can blame me?
When you have proof then we'll all take you serious, until then do us all a favor and STFU!
Also why would i publicly post spy reports if they were false, that means the owners of those nations can see i stated it and none of them have posted to deny them and i see many TPC nations that come in here. You could easily see that Fatal was IRS spied because of his first collection, it was about the same as DD's who was also IRS spied and they both collected on the same day, Avengers knew that when they saw it. You'd know this if you weren't a noob pretending to know everything about this game.
There's my princess, glad to see you could grace us with your righteous words!
Yes, yes you are responsible! Except you were not able to get your buddy/multi into my alliance! But I know how badly you wanted to pull it off just to sit there and flip things onto us. You just couldn't handle it anymore as the wait was killing you, so you just spied as a pending member hoping that might get by. It didn't work!
What are you talking about? There is no contradiction in my thoughts of this war or in any of my post about this war. I've ment everything I've said and said it exactly in the order and how I wanted to say it. But I'm glad you've taken interest in my thoughts and post about it though....I knew you were lying about not reading my post :) oh and I'd be careful who you call dumb for following me, your biting off more than you can chew there ;) besides don't be jello us that you can't get anyone to follow you :P
Paranoid, lol! That did make me chuckle. But I don't blame you for everyone's misfourtune, for instance I didn't blame you for NM inability to build, that you graciously pointed out yet still seem to allude the fact that this war is not much more than a witch hunt for TA. I only blame you for your pathetic despicable actions which include dirty spy ops, alliance spying, nation planting, and lying!
That's just it DT, you have never posted any spy ops against Fata1 or TPC, nothing but you saying it happened. That's odd because your the very first person to post everyone else's business, messages and what not. So where is this proof? At the very least you could post where they told you they were spied, if that even really happened! Also your right none have posted to deny it, but at the same time if they are even reading these post, they also see I call BS on you and aren't backing you either. Your always saying show proof or STFU, well now I'm calling you out on the same thing!I wouldn't have expected anything less from an old school player. :gun:
Avengers are trying to convince everyone that econ ops are dirty but in reality they're really bad for them. They wouldn't be so eager to wage as many wars as they have if their opponents were more willing to use them. This is the main reason why they're on this campaign to demonize econ ops as "dirty spy ops". They suffer a lot more than the average nation who uses them and then gets hit with them in retaliation. They want their wars to have nil econ ops so they can maximize their collections and continue to roll the next alliance who gets too strong. Don't be fooled by them or their minions in TDO. These two alliances are one of the same, they only have different names.
The purpose of econ ops is to stall your opponents post war rebuild. If you don't want to consistently get rolled by Avengers again, hit them with every econ op you can, they'll be less eager to try and roll you again.
Avengers are not the only alliance that see IRS ops as dirty, there are several others as well....TDO, TPC, NDO, RE and so on! There have been many people posting in various post from each of those alliances and more that agree.
Here you go, just more proof that YOU are behind TA's dirty spy ops!
The more you open your mouth the more you put your foot in it ;)
Your turn baby girl
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BG,
I was being sarcastic but if you insist, the only reason I said 5 allainces is the same reason you said, because DT posted that limits and fatal got spied so did avengers and misfits.
Yeah I know, and so was I :) I just started typing and thought this would be the perfect time to recap and point out that there was never any proof behind anyone else getting spied. I suspect that the reason is it never happened, just more fabrication from DT.
I also wanted to point out this petty act by DT of trying to get someone into TDO was pathetic to say the least, the second we saw it posted we knew who was behind it. Obviously we don't have the tools that admin does to to prove this, as if the IP address was even in the same state as DT's I'd have her war slots full till end round. Just the same she is not fooling anyone.
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Since he was trying to join TDO does that now make them responsible for all spy operations on like 5 alliances? I mean he did attempt to join? Hahaha
Sure! Wait what? How do you know there was 5 alliances spied? I thought TA got spied from one of your "approved members" Then TA spied back.....I did see that DT said Fata1 got spied but as of yet have seen no proof, (like you and everyone else has posted) and also DT said TPC got spied, again no proof. I'm thinking DT might have falsified information.
Now to the point on hand, DT or someone for DT made a nation and tried to plant them into our alliance for the purpose of spying. After gathering info, this planted nation was to spy one of the avengers in an attempt to discredit TDO. Why? Because DT knows I'm right about her and this is an attempt to throw the truth off, but mostly just to have BS to say about, that a nation in TDO doing the same thing that a nation in Misfits did.
What DT didn't take into account is that 95% of our members are all known in some way by one person or the other, or a combination of multiple people. Also that we just don't approve everyone that applies to our alliance.
I don't hear any complaining, he is just stating the facts....There is a difference!I said that because you clearly seem to be more interested in complaining rather than warring.
Don't worry, I'll get my turn at war. You can count on that one, pumpkin. ;)
The way i see this war is a fight between vets and another between newbies/some experienced but still using newbie build methods.
Seriously, you look like a fool going around blaming everyone for spying Avengers. You should let the other Avengers do all the talking on these forums, you do your alliance no favors.
A day or 2 from the usual first wars isn't that early, this is a 60 day round, wars should be more frequent. I've seen wars start on day 9 and 10 in 90 days rounds.
Go on make our day. :)
Yeah, you got that right "a war between vets (TA vs D1 and WD) and newbies (NM vs D1, WD and everyone else they raided like RE, Fist, and NLoN). Sure the numbers and stats line up, but everyone knows NM is full of noobs, probably 90% and the war scenes back that up. NM is taking a beating, and is hardly doing any damage at all. This is more less a huge raid on them, and the majority of D1 and WD elite players are focusing on TA. So this may not exactly be a down declare, but it definitely is a focused attempt to hurt TA.
Look at the stats prior to war, WD by them selves were a good match for TA, and the same goes for D1. Truth is neither alliance could take on TA by them selves with out being beat down, EVERYONE knows this! Thus the throwing in NM to make it look good.
I don't see anyone in TA complaining, the closes thing you can say is that SG is exposing the truth.
If the shoes were reversed, you can damn well bet you and several others would be on here screaming and crying about how terrible TA are and everything else. Yet another thing everyone knows!
I also don't see SG going around blaming everyone, matter of fact I distinctly ready that he and TA know who is behind it.
It's pretty much a fact that all veteran alliances know WAR prior to DAY 10 is not condoned, I recall a few alliances getting beat down last round because of it. The sad thing is, this has probably just opened Pandora's box. I know this, if I were TA I would attack the same alliances on the same day I was attacked for many rounds to come. TDO believes that alliances should have the ability to build properly with a minimum of 12 days prior to war, and we also believe a minimal of 10 days rebuilding after each war.
Everyone talks about getting numbers back up, and allowing the sovereignty of new alliances, well what do you think is going to happen to NM after this war, I'll bet they loose upwards of 20 nations or more due to people just plain quitting.
Has anyone noticed that numbers are even down from last round?
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To be fair BG, it is a war game and wars get declared linking that with spy operations was a bit much....and samwise these are the reasons misfits and WD are more and more civil by the day. As eddy said where the heck is Paul, we seem to have more in common!
True that normally and had any other alliances attacked TA, well this wouldn't even be an issue.
However the open threats that DT proclaimed last round, was not her being her usual pretentious self.
There is much more to this, and this has been plotted since at least day 1.
I have a bit more insight than most and there is definitely a collaboration going on.
I know you like DT, and honestly there's nothing wrong with that. I can even relate to you standing by her.
But the truth is what it is, and that is she has something to do with it...... -
A few things:
First, I didn't read this thread in it's entirety, but it seems in my 2 round hiatus the term "dirty spy ops" keeps being thrown around. What I'll never understand is the following:
Acceptable:- Multi nations - Every round multi nations are used for trade mules. People make extra nations on their phones or use other means to create multis for a variety of uses, mostly temp trading.
- Donation Selling - Anyone who wins a donation knows that you cannot use TE donation winnings in TE. Admin deems it an unfair advantage that you would use your previous donation winnings, for the current round, therefore increasing your chances of winning more donation bonuses. A way around that? Sell your donation bonuses to SE nations, the payment being those nations pay for your donations in TE.
- War Slot filling - This is pretty self explanatory and happens every round.
- Casualty Farming - Also self explanatory.
- Ban Evasion - Self explanatory.
- Collusion (Spoils of War) - Whether it's attempting to increase your startup funds, or assistance to get out of bill lock, nations attack for the sole purpose of sending losing ground attacks to nations to funnel them cash as well as lower their defenses for the purposes of allowing nations to loot cash from them.
- Spying - No, I don't mean in-game spying. I mean people either planting their multi or friend in a foreign alliance for the purposes of sabotaging that alliance.
- Forum Attacks - War Doves' forums were DDoS attacked just this past weekend.
- Economic in-game spy operations - IRS, government and religion propaganda. Is destroy money considered dirty too?
I think EZ, for the most part summed it up for me and for the lack of typing out exactly how I feel, it's close enough :)
I will say that what you implied as acceptable is contrary to actual morality for the majority of people that play.
Sure there are people that will circumvent the rules of the game, but they are marginal at best.
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So now I'm to blame for Avengers getting attacked by WD and D1? Seriously dude just shut up already.
No, your not to blame....your just a conspirator, an instrumental precursor in a methodical plot to take out TA early on.
Your turn
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Enough people are reading it and messaging me anyway, so YOU don't have to. Even though that's probably just another lie! The guilt is written all over your face/words.....And wow, what a huge coincidence, TA has dirty spy ops and then gets attacked! Trust me you don't have to say a word, truth is there is nothing you could say, the evidence just keeps piling up and more and more people are pointing fingers at you. Personally, why hide behind lies, you have already stated you condone dirty ops?BG, I'm not even going to waste my time reading more of your BS lies and fairy tales!
Does this problem need to be fixed by the admin? Most definitely. Its probably too late now this round but next round spying needs to be delayed for as long as declaring war is. That makes more sense.
About the only truthful statement you've made in this thread is the spying early needs fixed.
Your turn
BG
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Posted · Edited by Burning Glory
Let me also point out that I did more damage to you then any other nation hitting you, and you didn't do shiat to me in comparison! Also I could have had that last slot of your filled and I didn't, God knows that if I took your better odds away from you and gave you my same battle odds that you would have really cried, so no I didn't get all the help I could have. ;)
The war is over, you had your rear handed to you, it happens get over it!
Yes, they did! Obviously I can't prove some of what happened cause they were not caught, but process of elimination Says they did. Unless someone from your side was doing dirty ops on people they were not even at war with. Oh wait, that was you! You were the one doing dirty ops to nations you were at war with, and ones you were not.
Even though some ops were not caught, it was believed Fata1 had his hand in them as well as you. But you getting caught doing them to people you and he both attacked, that's what got Fatal hit by nukes. Here's some proof;
Message:
-----Original Message-----
From: Daenerys Targaryen
Date: 5/4/2015 1:27:09 AM
Subject: Spy Operation Attack
Body: A spy operation has been launched against your nation. In the attack the enemy spies targeted your federal reserves and managed to destroy $1,000,000.00 money. In the attack your counter spies managed to kill 20 enemy spies and your attackers identity has been publicly revealed.
So he can thank you for the nuke that GC gave him, I didn't one time do ops on him and he nuked me (cause you couldn't) :P And unfortunately you spying other people with dirty ops is what got CB nuked.....so yes all got what they had coming to them if for no other reason because of you. Pat your self on the back!
You know what's really screwed up? The fact that after the first few you did you were warned that your actions would cause other nations to get nuked and your reply was "I don't care, I'm going to do all the damage I can". I'm more than happy to post those messages, lie about it and I will.No wonder D1 nations are stating to not like DT.
DT, let me wish you good luck rebuilding, I mean that!
BG