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  15. Announcement from the Viridian Entente

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    [quote name='Dark Temptation' timestamp='1340857302' post='2999029']
    Taut and Joe did tell you from the beginning. The fact that some of RoK's more substantial allies chose to ignore the notification, or simply seemed not to care removes any fault from Ragnarok. That's why it was so @#%^ed up for the rest of SF (Xiph) to go behind RoK's back and organize hits on the 'other' side of that war.
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    Completely bull. We were given the green light by Taut and Rampage. Do you know how we found out that RoK was defending Polar? Rumors that RoK was sitting in Polar's coalition channel and I was asked by Impero in query if there was any truth to that fact. Only when I asked Taut about that in the SF channel and in query did he mention that RoK was defending Polar, a complete flip from his previous stance and a complete surprise to everyone else.

  22. Joint Val/NoR/DT/Asgaard/RoK announcement

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    [quote name='Sigrun Vapneir' timestamp='1308597314' post='2736023']
    So both sides agree that they never explicitly said they wouldnt be defending Polar. Why wouldnt your assumption be that if their ally was attacked they would defend, unless and until you were directly told otherwise? I would expect that to be the case with an ally, or if I didnt expect that to be the case I would be wondering why they were my ally.
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    When one party (RoK) is taking part in the war planning and participating in a discussion about which front SF might go on in the upcoming war, in conjunction with a lack of objection to the cb and the war (which would have stopped the war from even happening, as Impero can confirm), most reasonable people would also believe that they wouldn't be defending said alliance.

  23. Joint Val/NoR/DT/Asgaard/RoK announcement

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    [quote name='EgoFreaky' timestamp='1308588705' post='2735940']

    Wut the hell are you talking about?

    GOD didn't race RoK, GOD didn't even set the time of the attack since they oA'ed with us and thus had to post their DoW after we posted ours. An attack we announced 2/3 days in advance, with specified date and time, and NOONE least of all RoK complained about. Now isn't it strange that if it was so clear that RoK would defend polar they didn't even say anything to stop us from joining the other side of the war?

    Know the funniest part of it? Not only did tautology nor rampage stop us or tell us they would defend polar. But when they tried to spin it that we raced them to the DoW tautology pasted MY conversation with him for all RoK members to see. Only one line was conveniently missing and that was where i informed him of our plans. Somehow that one line in the conversation did not make it into his logs. SO did we race RoK to the DoW? No, we continued as planned. They had days to make up their mind and voiced not a single concern. And a few hours before we roll they tell us they're where protecting polar and that that was always the plan, not only would we have to break promises already made days in advance but also follow them in a direction opposed to every single ally we had? $%&@ that. Not on a last minute change of mind.
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    Indeed, we had told RoK of our plans in advance without any objection and far before they confirmed to us they were defending Polar, while over the course of the previous few days basically all but stating they (RoK) agreed with the war and wasn't going to defend Polar. Hell, RoK didn't even have the damn decency to tell us they were defending Polar. Instead, we had to ask them about the intel we were receiving 3 hours before update that said RoK was defending Polar for certain. It was only then, when confronted with that, did they say that they were defending Polar.

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