Benjamin Arouet
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It's cool Ferrous, I got suckered too. I sense sarcasm jammers.
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It has everything with you holding a personal grudge against us Sin, it always has. We've provided satisfactory explanations, and everyone but you (including GDA, btw) is happy. I'm done here.
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If you will look at the piece I quoted from Deja you will see that it clearly suggests that the lists were made the day of the attacks. Were the lists made the day of the attacks or were the lists made days in advance as you say they were?
Normally I wouldn't feel the need to fill you in on the details of our operational planning, but I guess it doesn't really hurt anything here. Lists were prepared up until the day before attacks were authorized, though most of it was together in advance of that. They were prepared in consultation with and with input from GDA, and all terms violators had been messaged (albeit once slightly improperly - these improprieties were resolved between GDA and CSN) several times already, and many were referred to us by GDA after continued non-compliance. I couldn't tell you the exact details about the master list because I wasn't involved in compiling it, but every nation was given numerous chances, and will be peaced out as soon as they're in compliance with no punitive measures taken other than the attacks they've suffered. Now, stop looking for a reason to bash CSN, arrogant disgruntled ex-members make for a lousy time in any thread, especially when they talk without knowledge of the situation.
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My question is: Why were the nations not in compliance not messaged notifying them of their non-compliance? Even the evil New Pacific Order messaged people letting them know they were not in compliance before attacking them. The evil New Pacific Order even gave them several days to get in compliance and in a lot of cases giving them a week to do so!
As I understand it, each nation not in compliance has been messaged several times... GDA had the list of potential targets for non-compliance well in advance, and was able to get in touch with them, those listed for attack were all not in compliance after being contacted. Also, they've had several weeks to be in compliance. We took all the steps you mention, bashing CSN just because you don't like us must not be as fun when you're wrong.
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Oh no you don't, everyone knows you're a masochist, no reward for you, my dear Captain.
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Quiet Lewis, facts are confusing. What's important is that AT is evil. )):
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We should just make admin move the decimal place over 2 places and then we'd be fine...
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/me whacks his sarcasm detector.
I knew that.
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I think it's safe to say that I agree with the sentiment expressed in this post.
I see no point in adding new people to an economic pact. And don't even get me started at the pact designed to better maroon relations. :colbert:
Thank you, New Frontier, for posting what undoubtedly most of us are thinking.
Good thing your feelings about the importance of Maroon unity are inherently valuable to us.
Also, you're wrong. Not only is accession to SPAM an important step on the way to full entrance in Maroonity via the Chestnut Accords, it's important in and of itself. Unless you're on Maroon, I really think you have no idea what Maroonity is all about.
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Oh, I misunderstood the suggestion then... I think everyone below the drop line should be dropped probably, but maybe there should be a high threshold for remaining in the race? Might be good to track 250 member + alliances in the unlikely event they stay below the drop line.
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Having some threshold of members to drop people under, 150 or 125, might make sense, but dropping people below 200 members is frankly quite a dumb idea. Some alliances with 175, 190 members are far closer to being sanctioned by just adding a few members than some alliances with over 200 members but far less score.
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Because the CSN didn't directly support the NoR's war efforts in the Maroon War?
Unless I missed something in my own post, the Maroon War is not in any way, shape, or form what I'm talking about.
And I'd love to give NoR a chance, but between them and "NoV", the pattern has just gotten all too familiar.
Prove me wrong, I'd be happy.
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Oh no, not again... At least they're not Maroon this time, someone elses problem.
I eagerly await the inevitable blatantly offensive actions initiated by this alliance and their corresponding beat-down.
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It was a good fight while it lasted GDA, and I even made one or two friends out of it.
Good luck to you guys as you go about your business from here on out! B)
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GOD: I'm fairly sure we're beating you on the GDA nations surrendering to us scale. I also think we got a head start, as our first one came in yesterday.
GDA: I tell you this as a courtesy, GOD isn't going to surrender. They have those nukes for a reason, and that reason is they want to unload them as fast as possible into the nations of whoever is attacking them, surrendering doesn't allow that.
I was wondering what Xiphs reaction was going to be when he heard about the nutty things being said in this regard in GDA's channel, I can now say he didn't disappoint.
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awesome, now you'll lose it all to nukes.
Well that prediction didn't pan out.
We are now both glowing AND growing!
CSN - Running the wrong way since 2009.
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Man, I've been out of the diplomattin' business too long CSN (damn you RL!), those are some incredibly sexy names up there in your signatures!
Good to see CSN back on the battle ground, any alliance should be proud to fight with you, whether on the same side or not.
I most certainly appreciate the compliments there... though I'm not sure if I'd call Goose 'sexy'.
We miss you BNW, get back to diplomattin'!
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To battle(.net)! Nice to be in the first war we've actually entered of our own accord in 2 years.
Good to be fighting you GDA.
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Thanks for announcing this and not making me do yet another one because TBW is too lazy!
We here at CSN love us some Immortals, and while it would be understandably difficult to kill them, figured we'd be more than happy to provide that extra layer of protection.
o7 Immortality!
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I really fail to see your point here.
OOC:
Also I find it amusing that people are going with this delusion that most Eternal ZI sentences are due to scams and the like. My experience with people with this sentence is that they usually made a bad move in inter-alliance politics or committed some type of nuclear terror act, and deleted their nation rather than letting it comply with terms or keeping it around to be attacked repeatedly. Doing this seems to throw a handful of influental individuals in many alliances into a rage because they wanted to be the one to destroy you and you aren't submitting to them as players, although the majority of us do not. I'm not sure whether a high school or street gangs are a more apt comparison, but it's certainly juvenile behaviour.
And let's face it - if Lord Swampy decided to delete his nation and come back as Sword Lampy and join Mushroom Kingdom, you know Valhalla and NPO would come down on them for it, regardless of what he intended to do with the new nation, because he tried to overthrow noWedge a year ago. If any signatories of this pact are allied to either of those two alliances in my hypothetical situation, would they recognise that as a valid casus belli and honour their treaties?
OOC: This has been exactly my thought about the entire exercise.... Perma-ZI/harboring someone who was previously a target (even if it not enumerated at the time) has been used to start an extraordinary number of wars, several come to mind besides the ones Katsumi listed here. This is also a valid question to signatory alliances. Are you committing to merely stop practicing this directly, while still supporting allies military in their pursuit of the same practices, or what?
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I've always had a lot of love for Viridia and nothing but respect for ArGo, though I regret not working much with them personally. Congratulations to you guys, I hope this goes swimmingly!
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Wow.... can't believe I didn't see this until now.
So you probably don't know me Doitzel, and I don't really know you.... I think we talked maybe once about something you said in a thread about CSN/ASC a long time ago (sorry for the misunderstanding if perchance you remember), but in any case, you were someone that I always looked up to in the community as a voice of reason and truly one of the best players in the game. I think your indictments of everyone here (myself included) are well deserved and are most certainly taken to heart. I very much hope you're wrong about things not ever being able to change to address the myriad of issues you mentioned, but that doesn't mean I have any confidence they will. Anyways, I hope you come back some day and bring the same thoughtful analysis that I've come to expect from you to more situations in the future.... Good luck!
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Dude, I don't have a problem. Again, it's not my fault people are sensitive and I see no need to pose my questions in the prettiest, most pleasant ways. I get straight to the point, deal with it.
You ask deliberately offensive questions or don't know how to pose useful ones, either way, refrain from that and get a lot less grief. On the off chance you're actually looking for an answer and not intentionally trying to insult GOD, posing your question in a way that makes sense to answer at length and in the desired manner will go a long way towards getting an answer.
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Are you me, or are you psychic? If you are, then I guess you're qualified to state what my intentions were with that question. If you're not me, or you're not psychic, somehow I doubt you're qualified.
Your questions are ridiculous flamebait, kindly stop and ask one that might have an actual answer associated with it, not open ended garbage which attempts to insult our allies in the form of a question.
An annoucment concerning CSN.
in World Affairs (IC)
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Whatever the flaws in Snakes message, and there were many, he was never TRYING to extort anyone. That much was a misunderstanding. Regardless, as you said, it's been handled.