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  1. [quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1301626726' post='2681872']
    No, it's because their tech dealer is in a major war.


    ODN also has the political position to ask for reps from anyone who aids Methrage. ODN's enemies don't have that same power.
    [/quote]

    > implying ODN has the power to ask for reps from Duckroll

  2. [quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1301610868' post='2681669']
    Let's not pretend Methrage is innocent here; we've dealt with him numerous times and he's really, really good at tricking people into aiding him without telling them what they're getting into. He gets involved in tech deals and makes sure not to tell people "by the way I'm currently at war." He does it knowing he gets his money since it doesn't matter what happens to the other people aiding him. He did it several times during the times we fought him, and lots of people apologized and got annoyed at what they got roped into by him. He does it on purpose. He's a slimy weasel.
    [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aeris-_-L6.jpg[/img]
    [/quote]

    Was it really that hard for people to click on the war screen button before clicking on aid? There is no excuse, You snooze you lose

  3. [quote name='Gimlimonkey' timestamp='1301594646' post='2681509']
    The fault rarely lies simply with one alliance or another. If you believe TOOL made efforts to keep relations up either, I would have to point out that you are mistaken. The degradation of this relationship can be associated with both sides, though as an eternal friend of Europa, I shall of course take their side in nearly all arguments :wub:
    [/quote]

    and as an eternal friend to TOOL I shall take their side. If blame is in both parties then I still congratulate TOOL to have the balls to cancel a treaty neither side is inclined to hold or build up on.

  4. [quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1301534774' post='2681044']
    Ah yes, I love the smell of a false syllogism in the morning. Are all alliances who tech raid the same as old GOONS? Are all alliances with ZI lists the same as old GOONS? Are all alliances allied to MK the same as the old GOONS? Are all arrogant alliances the same as the old GOONS? Are all alliances that aggressivley attack the same as the old GOONS? No. Not even close. You have not made your point, you have just used several attributes, none of which are unique to goonkind. If you want to prove we are the same alliance you're going to do far better than a few generic attributes that can be applied to scores of other alliances. I was in both, it's not the same thing, our methods are much more refined, our diplomacy far more potent. All you have are a few similarities, most of which can be applied to other alliances.
    [/quote]

    Same attitude

    [quote name='Feuersturm' timestamp='1301593621' post='2681495']
    Shhh. Remember, the world is supposed to forget what they did in the past. They were all forced to by NPO, remember? Down to the very things they posted! We have mind control!
    [/quote]

    IRON member confirming this

  5. [quote name='Varianz' timestamp='1301505537' post='2680720']
    Implying that the cancellation is somehow Europa's fault...?
    [/quote]

    Well if you read the thread then yes that seems to be the general idea. (not keeping up relations and all that)

    I only wish TOOL the best of luck

  6. [quote name='Antoine Roquentin' timestamp='1300738048' post='2672474']
    No, they weren't. The terms were written knowing NoR would actually declare on NPO specifically later on. I thought this was clear by now. NSO was never actually declared on and that's what was in their terms.
    [/quote]

    In the rules of CN warfare getting attacked by members of a different alliance without a declaration is a declaration of those people going rogue. Since MK/UMB didnt declare war on NSO are the members of those 2 alliances who have been / are attacking members ghosts or rogues? if not then CD is perfectly in their right to defend NSO from alliances that attack it (aside from GOONS since NSO dowed GOONS) correct me if im wrong here but that is generally how it works.

  7. [quote name='Vladimir Nikanor' timestamp='1300669912' post='2671646']
    Not to burst your bubble but that's EXACTLY why it was written the way it was written. We did NOT break any peace terms at all. Like I said, you're not reading. If you ARE reading, you're not comprehending.
    [/quote]


    [quote name='ImperialCubanacan' timestamp='1300670519' post='2671665']
    Wait -- so, we didn't declare war on New Pacific Order? JESUS CHRIST EVERYONE STOP ATTACKING THEM WE NEVER DECLARED WAR!!! ABORT MISSION!!! ABORT MISSION!!! HELM -- COME ABOUT!!

    No, seriously, you're a retard. :lol1:
    [/quote]

    whatever helps you sleep at night. I know carpe diem who basically told everyone the same thing (poorly worded surrender terms) but got shot down on having a Valid reason to declare. Like I said I guess it doesnt matter when you are on the winning side does it? (for carpe diem it obviously did because of the large amount of rage emitting from MK to CD and saying how bad their surrender terms are gonna be for breaking it)

  8. [quote name='Vladimir Nikanor' timestamp='1300652725' post='2671322']
    If you're still calling it a surrender you're severely misinformed and did not read in between the lines in the document that ended the war. Which I'm definitely not going to hold against you considering the layout it was presented in. Nobody should ever be forced to read something like that.
    [/quote]


    [quote name='pd73bassman' timestamp='1300653523' post='2671335']
    Ok, you keep telling yourself that. Also why don't you ask World Federation if we surrendered to them.
    [/quote]


    [quote name='PinkV' timestamp='1300661192' post='2671483']
    Such idiocy leading a nation. It frightens me sometimes.
    [/quote]

    speaking of which I guess breaking [s]surrender[/s] Peace terms doesnt matter when you are on the winning side does it?

    http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98159

    [quote]Nordreich shall refrain from committing any further acts of warfare upon any alliance who is engaged in combat with the New Polar Order
    or the New Pacific Order[/quote]

    I guess you can try to E-lawyer your way out of this by saying you declared war on NPO but I dont think anyone is going to buy that shenanigang

  9. [quote name='PinkV' timestamp='1300626644' post='2671048']
    Like Walrus said, success in Planet Bob can be achieved simply by living. Of course, many alliances want to have a powerful say in World Politics, as a result they pump the iron a bit harder in order to be sanctioned, in the top 20 or whatever their goals are in order to be considered a "World Power". At the end of the day it all comes down to who's got the best military. Polaris was deemed a successful alliance before they were caught in a war and pushed down to spot 19.
    [/quote]

    I thought NoR was pretty succesfull too until they actually surrendered in the NpO front to join the Doomhouse front.

  10. [quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1300591715' post='2670755']
    I thought Molon Labe and BAPS were part of Duckroll.... heh, guess I was wrong. [/quote]

    They are.

    BAPS isnt at war however.

    And duckroll while we try to keep all members on one line we cannot stop treaty lines (Molon Labe being treatied to... uh.. TPF who is at war.

    Nobody countered TOOL otherwise IRON would have joined. (Unless it was TOP. Allies of ours aswell)

    Other then that IRON has a non agression pact with NPO which prevented us from attacking them.

    That said I believe the majority of our treaties are non-chaining (as far as I know)
    and aside from treaty lines neither duckroll nor IRON were planning to join the war

  11. [quote name='Style #386' timestamp='1300318480' post='2666722']
    I think if he was an average member you'd be seeing a lot more of these threads. Learn to characterize.
    [/quote]

    1 thread is too much imo.

    ive seen several more about the same (or from) member however.

  12. [quote name='Rocky Horror' timestamp='1300455062' post='2669055']
    I've never seen a successful alliance operating in any way other than as a socialist dictatorship.
    [/quote]

    IRON works as an Oligarchy dont know why people think most alliances work as a socialist society. If every alliance was run as a socialist society then the high nations would be suffering to grow the small nations (which is not the case now is it?)

    [quote name='8 Mile' timestamp='1300491431' post='2669553']
    I'll give you three examples that are currently sanctioned:

    GATO. ODN. MHA.
    [/quote]
    2 out of those 3 I wouldnt exactly call succesfull.

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