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4 hours ago, Schattenmann said:
Optional treaties make perfect sense when one considers the fact that action is complicity, and an alliance should not always act, and shouldn't act when to act would be against its character.
I have no issue with ODOAPs. I would just prefer that we didn't undermine the value of MDoAPs with non-chaining clauses.
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One of the stupidest aspects of modern politics is the phenomenon of the MnDoAP. I have no idea whether topics have already been made on this as I haven't been around in literally years (so forgive me if I'm repeating an existing thread) but I come from a time when this wasn't a thing. An MDoAP was an MDoAP, and alliances turned into pariahs when they failed to honour them (and were respected forever when they did.) A non-chaining defence clause basically renders MDoAPs a fancier sounding ODOAP. It's a treaty for politicians, not friends. You're all complaining that politics is stagnating. Why not cut the bs and only sign a treaty when you actually mean it?
I know you all know this, but the reason a chaining clause is important is that an alliance is unlikely to be directly attacked, but drawn into a conflict as a result of treaties. That is because alliances in the politics of this world are rarely important in their own right, but are part of groups of alliances (sometimes blocs, sometimes less formal than that) which have political interests *as groups*. So in order for a mutual defence clause to be meaningful, it needs to be chaining. Otherwise, your ally can find themselves vastly outnumbered and getting rolled while you don't lift a finger, because it wasn't a "direct attack." If you trust someone enough, promising to come into a chaining war with them isn't a problem, because they can always excuse you. And if not, why the heck bother with the whole "mutual defence" farce in the first place?
Basically, grow a pair.
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Just now, Mogar said:
Not really, all the world's a stage, whether or not people elect to participate in political discussions is entirely up to the individual people in the world is what is lacking lately.OOC: I entirely agree that RP would make this game more fun. It's one of the main reasons I RP.
My ingame opinions are only affected very slightly by OOC perspectives. Anyway, this is all offtopic.
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12 hours ago, AlmightyGrub said:
You fail consistently with your decade old party tricks that you thought would make the girls giggle. Stop attempting to impersonate every leading alliance in the game with your rot. Nobody has heard of you, nobody is going to follow you down the rabbit hole.
The three Polar members (out of the ten I messaged) who peaced out MI6 and allowed their opponents to escape in peacemode say otherwise.
12 hours ago, AlmightyGrub said:{OOC} As for your OOC talk, perhaps you could confine your OOC opinions to elsewhere, I am RPing my fat arse off. I hate you IC because you smell funny, look funny and talk complete !@#$ all the time, In RL I may or may not hate you, I have far less capacity for RL hate, but I guess I could fit you into the schedule. Please don't presume to provide an opinion on the state of people's minds with your mindless drivel.{/OOC}
OOC: Jesus Christ, calm down. I was giving my opinion as to why people in general form OOC grudges over this game, not you in particular. Furthermore, my comment was about other people's antagonism towards each other, not about anyone's personal beef with me, let alone yours. (I'm not old enough as a nation for anyone to have formed a grudge against me.) Seeing as I didn't even mention you in my post, I can only conclude my comments about grudges/ ****posting hit a little close to home. Welcome to my ignore list.
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On 6/16/2016 at 1:27 PM, Lord Balian said:
Man I just don't understand how actual hatred for another person can come out of playing a game. However I guess if someone takes it too personally and starts saying horrible things to or about another I do. But overall, there are just too many other problems in life to get me so angry at another.
I like you.
Now, speaking OOC here for a moment: roleplaying died years ago, and in reality there's a lot of OOC interaction and OOC relationships formed when you're playing in real time and talking on IRC, which means OOC grudges formed. I shrug. Besides which, a disproportionate number of people in this game are messed up in real life, which means they get hurt more easily.
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30 minutes ago, Rebel Virginia said:
If you associate spine with Invicta then you have completely lost touch with reality. Spine is one thing (among others) that Invicta has lacked since the very beginning. The chose the life of a lackey, and they will the death of a discarded lackey.
"The life of a lackey", eh? Smaller alliances (like Invicta, or your friends in STA) often get accused of being lackeys, but that's simply a matter of public perception. They can't help their size.
As for dying, most alliances are heading the same way: Invicta will die (assuming it actually does die, which I hope it doesn't, just to spite you) remembered for sticking with its allies, not as a discarded lackey. That's more than most disbanded and long-forgotten alliances can say.
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15 minutes ago, Rebel Virginia said:
Invicta is a rubbish alliance and always has been. I well remember that trash heap gleefully following NPO and Friends into whatever stomping or whichever alliance struck their fancy that month. There was hardly ever a valid reason, but that did not stop Invicta from joining in and tooting their own horn about their honor or battle prowess or any such nonsense to convince themselves that they were not garbage. So, you don't like it when the glove is on the other claw, eh? Too bad. You're going to the dump, to the dump, to the dump dump dump.
What exactly was trashy about them, pray tell? They were and are kind and decent people (and although I know it's people who can come up with the most sarcastic and clever posts who often get the most kudos, I quite frankly wish there were more people in that category.) On top of that, during Karma they had more spine than the entire CoC put together. Their only fault was in being friends with Pacifica in the first place (anyone could see NPO would stab them in the back eventually.)
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Just now, Auctor said:
I know you are but what am I?
Um, say what bro?
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Just now, AlmightyGrub said:
that wouldn't be a challenge would it?
Oooh, what a burn. An insult to my intelligence from someone who doesn't know the first thing about me. Like I said to you before, quality trolling is supposed to be witty. Being a jerk for the sake of it isn't quite the same thing.
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1 minute ago, AlmightyGrub said:
We are holier than you (fact). I am an actual ''holier than thou'' character, AlmightyGrub, are you dense? I have conducted my business for over a decade in exactly the same manner, friends are good, enemies are !@#$, neutrals are parasites and for now you are an enemy. The fact that my friends and enemies change regularly should show you how easy it is to play a role. Hurry up and surrender already so I can nuke NADC to the stoneage.
You actually like people other than yourself? Could've fooled me.
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Just now, AlmightyGrub said:
Good to see you got up to speed. Please don't try to be clever next time, you are out of your depth.
None of what I just said about the Sparta-MI6 treaty was new to me. I have no problems with quality trolling (even when directed at me) but if you're going to make snarky posts at least make them interesting to read.
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Just now, AlmightyGrub said:
I don't think about you at all
Likewise. You're not worth the mental energy.
Just now, AlmightyGrub said:I have no idea who you are, I was just observing that you are completely without even a basic level of comprehension of what is going on around you.
I'm well aware Sparta has a treaty with MI6 and that a counter has been anticipated for several days. I just didn't think two wars was a sufficient indication that that had now occurred. The point is moot now that Sparta has made an official declaration, anyway.
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This is cool. Sparta, I salute you.
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Just now, AlmightyGrub said:
You are the most clueless person I have ever met.... and that takes a special kind of education.
I couldn't care less what you think about me, Grub. In any case, I doubt it.
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Two guys have hit you, and this is taken to show conclusively that the alliance intended to counter you? I'm presuming you talked with Sparta about this?
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Yes, a despicable act from a cruel and merciless alliance, especially to an alliance with Invicta's history. Of course, it makes sense from a pragmatic standpoint: crushing known enemies means they can't conspire to crush you. It doesn't make it any less reprehensible, however.
OOC: What political simulator is fun without a good tyrant?
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1 hour ago, Blackatron said:
What would be even funnier is loads of random people just roguing on NPO, and then all being like; "oh, sorry, Wayfarer told me to, thought we were at war
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*THAT* is awesome.
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58 minutes ago, Blackatron said:
I'm not really condoning what he did, obviously it's something that would rightfully piss anyone off, but I don't get how you can say it isn't funny, when I noticed the IRON nations attacking NPO "in defence of Invicta" I sure as hell laughed, laughed even harder when someone told me that someone was mass messaging IRON nations in game.
The hack on the R&R forums is different, I consider that to be quite a serious matter and it isn't funny at all, I hope you are able to recover most of what was lost and the damage isn't too serious.
There are no rules against pretending to have authority you don't in game, you might say it lacks decency, but in an age where megablocs are rolling micros who gives and !@#$ about that? At least Wayfarer is being amusing for most of those watching.
Also wayfarer appears to have answered the question.
Re: the first bit, yeah, it *WAS* hilarious, especially when that giant guy with like 10k tech anarchied all three of his NPO opponents.
Re: the hack on the R&R forums, I had nothing to do with it, and I can't understand why spamming IRON nations would lead to that conclusion.
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Um, why on earth would you connect me with something that happened to *R&R's* forums?
If Admin wants to cut down the limited number of fun, mischievous and unconventional things you can do in this game (as Vox used to do) that is his affair.
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IRON's forums got hacked!? Jeez. I am genuinely really sorry to hear that, but it has nothing to do with me. Only the most pathetic form of scum would do that to another alliance. *I* have standards. Even if I didn't, I have nothing against IRON: I picked a random NPO ally and told them to hit NPO in defence of Invicta. I have no cause, desire or ability to be hacking people's forums. Anyway, this has nothing to do with the ~mysterious explanation~ for my trades not disappearing.
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10 minutes ago, Horus Lytton said:
lol ^.^
I must be in the wrong R&R for years, because that ain't us!Rule abiding & Restrained. Sounds exciting.
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Just now, Horus Lytton said:
nope. not even funny at all while you stir the pot.
I know that to you the entire point of playing internet nation games is srs bns, but some of us play games to have fun. C'mon, you're in an alliance that calls itself R&R for pete's sake. Simply because you decide to play by the boring code of etiquette that most players in this game foist upon themselves doesn't mean I have to.
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Just now, Horus Lytton said:
actually, the matter isn't really funny.
the sanction was placed due to impersonation. I've read reports that apparently this guy is sending war messages to members of alliances to attack other nations, when no such order was authorized or given by the real people.Actually, it's hilarious. Especially when like four IRON nations actually attacked the NPO.
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:smugsy: You have no idea how much getting a thread all to myself on the forums strokes my ego. Thank you. Also, secret trades. Just sayin'.
My ingame opinions are only affected very slightly by OOC perspectives. Anyway, this is all offtopic.
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On the ridiculous phenomenon known as the "MnDoAP"
in World Affairs (IC)
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Yes. As always eminently sensible, Merger.