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10 minutes ago, Galerion said:
Looks to me like they did you a favour, to much infra for your wonders and lack of tech.
Exactly, I was not anticipating a war at all. I minded my own business and told everyone to do the same. Not everyone got the memo. Just when we got Guaravita to stop raiding people this OWF drama happened.
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56 minutes ago, Gh0s7 said:
Agree entirely. But they seem to have no backbone.
I respect the oot nations.I fought who were willing to actually throw down. Best of luck to them in the future.
I don't intend to be smurfing against new nations after 1,310 days which is why such conflicts are just a waste of my time and OoT's. There's a reason why I never posted on the OWF or intervened in any conflict, and there's no reason I am going to start now.
Regardless, thank you for your advice and your well wishes. You happened to hit the only two individuals other than myself who actually care about growing in OoT and I'm glad they put up a good fight.
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1 minute ago, Lucius Optimus said:
You can't please everybody. But you don't have to be a spineless jellyfish either.
We can't all have martyrdom complexes. Some of us live to win not fight for the sake of fighting.
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Oy vey no matter what you do people will complain
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18 minutes ago, Lucius Optimus said:
What a b**ch a$$ surrender. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. What a ridiculous "agreement". Damn.
Ashamed? Of doing the rational thing? Never.
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The Order of Tenebris (OoT) hereby surrenders to the combined forces of SLAP, AM, COBRA and The A-Team. We have agreed peace at the conclusion of current wars expiring, and no new wars shall be declared.
1. Roal gets a lifetime ban from OoT, TTK, and any TTK protectorates, now and in the future.
2. SLAP and AM can continue to attack Fire Dragons until they are satisfied.
3. OoT will stop talking bad about SLAP, AM, COBRA, and the Mujahideen on all venues, and especially the OWF.
4. Democratic Cambodia will issue an apology to Nord (in the form of slam poetry) for his offensive nation theme.
5. The leader of OoT will message Jack Layton a recitation of the shahada as proof of the fact that all of OoT have converted to and accepted Islam as their religion.
6. OoT agrees to not have any relations or treaties with any alliance that Roal is a member of for a period to last no less than indefinitely.
Signed for Order of Tenebris:Tyronia - Dark Lord
Nightside - Grand Wazeer
Signed for Sovereign League of Armed Powers:
Banned - The Blood God
Supreme Emperor Daeg - The Hand that Opens
Eviljak - The Hand that Fights
Claude - The Hand that Guides
Javier360 - The Hand that Feeds
Signed for Apocalypse Meow:
Morphine - President
Nord Belkan - President
Autosave36 - President
Xanth - President
Queenhailee - President
Margrave - President
Signed for COBRA:
General Kanabis - King Cobra
Signed for RAD:
Master Hakai - Master HakaiSigned for The A Team:
John "Hannibal" Smith ~
Templeton "Faceman" Peck ~
Bosco "B.A." (Bad Attitude) Baracus ~
H.M. "Howling Mad" Murdock~ -
Just now, General Kanabis said:
You'll change your tune as soon as Roal does what he always does and jumps ship to save his own hide.
He's the reason your house is burning down.
Kanabis, you know very well we were prepared to give you what you want before this war began, and we still are. What are your coalition's demands against OoT? What is it that we were expected to do? If we are only given the option to fight, then all we can do is fight. It matters not if it was Roal36's mistake or not, all we can do is learn from current mistakes and avoid them in the future.
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Nobody is going rogue. Catankerous Badasses is a perfectly legitimate alliance and we wish them the best of luck in their war on our mutual slithery enemy. A cobra is never a match for a mongoose.
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7 minutes ago, Sir Kiloist said:
I'm gonna let you slide here on account I don't really care. Was just a wee bit confused on why there was conflicting statements. Should have probably made it more pronounced. This is a good start though.
just fyi.. no official govt and you expected people to just know? bad idea in CN most people in this game dont put their shoes on correctly.
Yeah this worked fine for us since we mostly kept to ourselves and just adhered to our tech deals. We didn't expect anyone to know, just expected someone to tell us when they have a problem with us. That is a moot point regardless; people are just butthurt that Roal triggered them and they're taking it out on us (and the fact that OoT is an old enemy of VG didn't help). I'm not here to reason with our attackers, as if they were reasonable they wouldn't be attacking. I'm just clearing up our situation for the record.
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3 minutes ago, Sir Kiloist said:
So which is it? A functional and active government? Or never had one?
It is functional and active AFTER this restructuring...
Before that we did things by consensus. Before Roal36 joined us, the alliance was basically just me and my trade circle plus inactives. Guaravita and I were promoted without being given official positions during this period so we were de facto in charge, but we did not speak in the name of the alliance except when we were mediating conflicts. My only purpose was to mentor my trade circle on how to grow their nations, and a quiet micro that had DT and TTK protection was perfect for us. We had only two incidents - when Josef K went nuke rogue on me, and when Varangian Guard attacked me for something Guaravita did alone. And they were both resolved with Dark Templar mediation. We only expanded to over 20 nations when Roal joined us and started recruiting
In other words, despite not having an official government, Guaravita and I were around, as was Tyronia, and there was no excuse about not approaching us with a dispute. The internal workings of OoT should not be anyone's business as long as we fulfill our international obligations - which we have always done and will always continue to do.
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1 minute ago, Immortan Junka said:
You clearly don't know how this world works if you think alliances always resort to diplomacy first. I've been enemies with Jack Layton and others you are fighting in the past, you're not doing it right if you're getting into the same wars over and over. After this war is over I recommend you guys work out a treaty or two with experienced partners. The Imperium was a protectorate at one point.
It's obvious alliances do whatever they want so long as they can get away with it - that's the nature of politics. If we're being raided over pettiness so be it, I just want people not to have any illusions about why there is a war.
But yes, we need new treaties - our old micro partners appear to be mostly defunct.
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Just now, Immortan Junka said:
That's a failing of OoT for not understanding how an organized alliance functions.
I agree that OoT has had a lot of internal dysfunction, hence this hurried announcement to rectify that blunder. But it's still not our fault the attacking alliances refused to observe basic diplomatic protocols and simply chose to pounce because of personal grudges; any of the higher ranking members of the AA, Roal included, would have been open to discussion whether it's about Guaravita's raids, Roal's remarks on the OWF, or the admission of Fire Dragons. We have had raid disputes in the past and those were quickly resolved diplomatically so it's not like there's no one to talk to. The beef between OoT and Varangian Guard/Apocalypse Meow predates Roal anyways and has more to do with Guaravita going too far in a raid. The issue with VG then, as it is today, is that VG did not observe any form of diplomacy with OoT. This is pathological behaviour and not a one off crisis. -
2 minutes ago, Roal36 said:
OoT has never had a govt till today. It's not our alliances fault that you and others thought otherwise.
No use talking to people who cannot read Roal, the announcement says it unequivocally for anyone interested.
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After two years of semi-anarchy in which it was abandoned by its original members, the Order of Tenebris hereby restructures itself into an organized alliance with a functional and active government.
Government of the Order of Tenebris
Supreme Leader Tyronia
Grand Wazeer Nightside
Wazeer of Foreign Affairs Roal36
Wazeer of Defense Guaravita
Chief of Staff Fire Dragons
Our alliance is primarily a Maroon alliance, though we welcome members from other teams. Our main protection treaties are with The Templar Knights and The Dark Templar, with which we reaffirm our commitment to.
The Order of Tenebris is a peaceful alliance that focuses on economic growth, but will never back down from a fight where one is thrown at us.
We recognize the unprovoked aggression by Apocalypse Meow, SLAP, Praetorian Guard, RAD, COBRA and The A Team, and pledge to give them the fight of their lives.
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8 hours ago, Morphine said:
Lol, your next on my eternal ZI list. Roal and nightside. Welcome to the group
Bring it on !@#$%*. You've no idea whom you're taking on.
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1 minute ago, DeathAdder said:
It sounds good in your head, but unfortunately, that's not how it works. If you're gov anything you say can be taken as a representative of your Alliance.
Who said Roal is gov? Because he can add or remove members? Or because he has a special title which all active members get because you know, we're still a micro?
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5 minutes ago, Banned said:
You just made the best possible case for shotgun diplomacy. Gratz. How's your foot feel after shooting yourself in it?
Only in lalaland where attacking someone who has already attacked you is the same as attacking one who is willing to distance himself from trouble without communicating first.
Again, you want to fight in Maroon come and get it, just drop the !@#$%^&*.
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1 minute ago, Roal36 said:
I know banned you like to have a valid CB against us but this is not it. Its not a valid CB, please just admit that you want to participate in the free for all attacks against OoT when its only protector is busy fighting for all of Maroon.
Exactly this. You want to fight us come, but stop playing victim it makes you look pathetic. The Order of Tenebris has never initiated a war and never will, but we will fight off all aggressors.
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34 minutes ago, Cress said:
You should control your members/gov who act as a representative of your alliance to the rest of Planet Bob before pointing blame at someone else's doorstep.
Roal36 has never spoken in the name of OoT on this forum or elsewhere. If Roal36's actions merit war, the diplomatic protocol lies in communicating with his alliance before anything. If you just want a fight say so, but don't lie about the reason.
Varangian Guard did the same thing to us about a different member who was acting alone, and that's the main reason we welcomed Roal: he helped us take vengeance on Layton and Morphine when no one else would.
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24 minutes ago, Banned said:
Oh, I think you got the message. It's not my job to police your membership, nor to run around chasing down every war we fight to make sure some alliance doesn't accept nations fighting us. Not accepting nations at war has been a societal norm for years, and policing your membership is your job, not mine.
For my own part, your actions seemed to dictate pretty clearly that you wanted the fight and merely lacked the initiative to get the ball rolling. Well, now you have it. You're welcome.
You could have notified the heads of Tenebris about your beef with Roal before declaring you know, some basic communication. You just wanted an excuse to fight him and anyone associated with him.
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So this thread is basically the reason why OoT is being raided?
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15 hours ago, Ch33kY said:
I'd be happy to do a deal for 57 tech. But not 56. No. That would be just wrong.
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Looking for Maroon Trade + Want to buy tech 9/100 available
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Hey y'all, just as the title says, I wish to get into this game again. Would appreciate it if anyone has any leads for either Maroon circles or tech sellers.