Chancellor Genroii

Correction- Semi-democratic (btw is not in any way democratic, if we voted no on laws, the Provost could ratify it if he wanted to) What others? They didn't have to stay, SPA is basically whatever Guinness lost that ended up doing REAL diplomacy and got our butts safe. I didn't say it surprised me... It was more of an immature move on his part. I still don't understand how people are so ignorant. "What we did" saved most of the alliance, SPA talked up a treaty when Vos was in his own imaginary world thinking the alliance was at peace. We would love to help, but as you agreed to, we were banned from Guinness. And I'm no longer in the mood to do anything with Guinness.

I appreciate it Angel, I hope no feelings were hurt or anything like that. I'm just trying to let everyone know, I was proud to be in Guinness and took my job very seriously (even though I am a very silly person) and tried to make it more effective by implementing new ideas to FA. So leaving Guinness was hard for me, I just like to think, new forum, same people. And that usually cheers me up because I love the people here at SPA, they were great at Guinness, and no doubt they're going to be AWESOME at SPA. I'm done bickering for the day, I said what I needed to say, and stand by it. Chancellor Genroii Socialist Party Alliance People's Commissar of Foreign Affairs - Temporarily here for reference - Former Chancellor of State at Guinness

Oh... You mean stopping an entire bombardment of RIOT? Oh no, I wouldn't call that safe... That's more like mildly safe, since you know, we need more treaties with RIOT and Lavender Town to ensure they will never touch us again. What do you think protectorate means? Well that says something doesn't it? A large percentage leaves Vos and suddenly he looks like a victim? I don't think so, if we all left for the same reasons, there is no need to view him as the victim. We were the victims, and did something about it. I tried to get you to understand, but I can't, that's okay. Because you're only ignorant and refuse to be grateful of a new alliance coming forth from just winning it's independence. Oh, I plan to make more treaties. Already have one working up, so thank you for the luck.

Well I guess that's on us for wanting our smaller nations to be safe because of some bad decisions made by others. We're not bad guys, we are all great friends with each other, before and after SPA. But Vos has blocked everyone who left out. I have offered to help him rebuild. He just told everyone leave. We are banned from their forums, my embassy request was removed, and we were kicked from the public channel.

Well. That's the cost of freedom. Now, if you think whatever it 'looked' like was what happened, that's your loss. But we weren't abandoning ANYONE, why? Cause they're pretty much all with us, except Vos and Blackeyebilly and Ceres. The other two, Redarmy and Sergei might as well be the only traitors, they left Guinness and didn't even stay with us. :( But that's alright, they'll always be in my heart. So, reputation may be down. But what were the choices? Be stuck with Vos? Get destroyed by LT and RIOT then leave? Or do what's best for the Alliance and save everyone's skins by reforming?

RIOT was going to destroy us if we didn't leave. We were forced out of our homes. Though I'd say for some of us, it was a good idea to.

No... I was tired of Vos doing things he shouldn't be. but yeah, I'm not very fond of LT and RIOT, but guess what... It's temporary. I'm looking for a civilized alliance, with reasonable people. Unlike you fools ;) I have nothing against Guinness or it's charter. I was Chancellor of State and loved it. But Vos was sneaking things in the charter and doing secret negotiations without me. Now with how he's acting, I'd say payback's a bitch.

Vos gave us one option, peace out. Now... What was the other thing we could do before getting kicked out without disobeying our dictator? We left, big deal, we knew our charter, thats why we f******* left. You guys are whining for no reason. Oh thanks for the welcome since this is a Annoucement of Existence, glad it didn't turn into one of those things where people get stupid and blame everyone without seeing from all sides. Worst experience I've had since I joined. 10 out of 10 times would not go to a cult organization like Guinness. Everyone was great, I just didn't like how Vos was trying to get by just by calling it a democracy, we've had it, with the changing of legal documents and the charter without asking. I'm not standing around doing nothing, letting Vos do MY job as FA. I left for SPA because I knew anyone with a common sense in Guinness would see SPA as a democratic alliance in which was superior to Guinness. I was right, over 3/4s of the active membership transferred over to SPA, and growing. 10 out of 10 times would do again.

Thanks for the warm welcome Nemhauser!

For the one hundreth time, OUR CORRUPT LEADER TOLD US WE WERE AT PEACE. So, yes it would make sense for you to believe whatever you saw happened because it's true. But we left because we had been told that peace was made without anyone's consult. We left, end of story. And thank you so much! I've appreciated all the warm welcomes. :)

When over 3/4s Guinness' active members list leaves at the same time, it's probably because there was an issue with Guinness itself. If any of you think our freedom is not deserved, what makes it your right to whip us back into Guinness? Fact is, we are the new Guinness, in a new shell.