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[quote name='Sulmar' timestamp='1299121669' post='2650539']
I'm confused, if Olympus is just paying NAC reps why not just say Olympus got reps?
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This announcement pleases me!
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[quote name='The Trail' timestamp='1297297297' post='2627413']
I think he meant treaty wise which unless im mistaken there is no treaty binding MK and FOK
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Wrong...treaty exists and how!
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7 during noCB...
The rest of time time it's either useless or blocks one or two at a time... -
[quote name='deth2munkies' timestamp='1296435885' post='2611773']
Azaghul! They let you back in!
That said, can we please just condense this !@#$ down for once and say they attacked "Because they wanted to, and it was fun"? I mean I think it's high time people started breaking out the heavy weaponry to fight just for the hell of it. I mean I just so happened to glance at these forums on a whim today (showing someone else what the game was) and saw the NPO getting facestomped and immediately decided to re-create my nation. Why? Because war and wartime are fun as hell. Sure, I know there's gonna be a reconstruction period afterwards that'll have me lapse into inactivity or even leave again, but for now, I can catch up and have some fun having it out on the forums and game.
Let's just have a fun time and not over-analyze it quite yet, k?
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You still remember your way to the castle right?
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Enjoy the destruction of things Athens...
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[quote name='Daeryon' timestamp='1296312516' post='2609486']
There will be a greatly diminished NPO.[/quote]
Yep...that's the plan...
[quote name='Daeryon' timestamp='1296312516' post='2609486']
There will be a greatly diminished GOONs.
There will be a greatly diminished PC[/quote]
No. I can with much certainty and confidence say that GOONS and PC will be nursed back to health. -
[quote name='Letum' timestamp='1296327270' post='2609716']
Right now, it sounds like a self-serving excuse in order for "Doomhouse" to rationalize why they have kept their grudge for so long, despite us being curbstomped once already.
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We don't need to rationalize anything...as there isn't anything to make rational. We don't like NPO and attacked...it's simple, honest and upfront.
Also this isn't really a curbstomp...Umbrella are struggling to find adversaries, GOONS have been dogpiled. Only MK and FAN are really able to make their entry en-mass.... -
Tbh if they could, NPO would have more treaties. The conditions are just not there. Some are wary of them. NPO also not wanting plastic friends...
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[quote name='mhawk' timestamp='1296270413' post='2608381']
How is being tied to every major bloc an assertive attempt at creating a competitive environment? MK maintained strong ties to CnG, PB, DH in addition secured a link with TOP and Duckroll via that relation with IRON. What they did is create a myth of competition that you have bought, while in reality they controlled or were linked to an overwhelming amount of firepower from any opposition. What did they do with this power to create a more competitive environment? Yes they are currently attempting to curbstomp an alliance that they feel might be too competitive in the future at some point.
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Tbh you may see it as MK being tied to all these power houses intentionally for politicking but every single alliance is and has been a long time friend of MK with the exception being our ties to TOP. That our allies happen to be powerful it is down to only the fact that we and our allies have not been in overly damaging wars...
Anyways...not to get into a "MK this, MK that" debate but MK is now not tied to as many alliances in the web...and for sure atleast in regard to our ties we have effectively placed ourselves soley on one side so there is no confusion when it comes to conflicts as to which side MK will enter.
You can count all of MK's treaties on 1 hand...how many alliances can say the same? -
[quote name='Branimir' timestamp='1296176004' post='2606371']
Those alliances are even rarely here, unfortunately. A lot of people are not, because they detest OWF. I honestly can not think of an instance where those alliances even initiated, or joined in, in a banter with you. I do remember intense banter at them from your ranks. Interestingly, also unprovoked but just aimed at them coz they are.
The point of butt hurt comment, went more onto your alliance as a whole.
We do not want to have empty treaties. We had that, burned us. Lesson learned. There will be no fake relationships. We do not want a treaty with VE, or PC, or GOONS or whatever, for example. It wouldn't be true even if it would be possible.
Also seeing NEW incident, one can observe that treaties with a "core alliance" means little if you are not "in", "in".
That does not mean we were plotting their destruction. And our actions back that up. So, we were condemned to be overly real politik, overly power brokers earlier. And now, from the same ranks, we are condemned for not being that, but being true.
I dont mind you, but seeing you all try and try to force rationalize what you did does make me laugh honestly. It isn't that NPO was so often in the "clear" in war times so it is kinda refreshing lol
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I didn't say for you to create fake or empty treaties and relations. Quite clearly that is never the way forward as you have found out.
I just find it strange that NPO with it's much lauded diplomatic team couldn't even manage to warm up to a single new alliance to go with the new beginning...from an outsider perspective that is indeed not a sign of an alliance that is facing up to the reality of needing to seek a new path...
If you want me to rationalize one could say MK is not the only alliance to hold a grudge against you if the above is true and that NPO tried their best to make new friends... -
[quote name='Branimir' timestamp='1296174947' post='2606356']
We were over this. A year and a change ago. You can not sign treaties with alliances that do not want to sign treaties with you. You also do no change friends as well. I dunno what TPF, Invicta, Legion, to name a few, really have done to you but k.
And finally-- you can not blame a war on a party that did nothing to provoke it, nor cause it. Play your villain part, satisfy your butt hurt, but stop with the fluff.
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Those alliances have publicly voiced opposition that is all. It is healthy, good and all part of the game.
I have nothing to be butt-hurt about. In which ever alliance I have been I have always maintained that NPO played the game well...maybe not so much in the last 2 years but prior you were brilliant. -
[quote name='Branimir' timestamp='1296153153' post='2605863']
Do you know what is arrogance? Arrogance is to claim once you attack someone out of the blue, for no reason and no provocation-- that it is their fault. That is arrogance. That is you.
Man up? We are here, holding our lines. And we took our lessons. We cant be nice enough, to not get preemted at the first opportune time when the world is busy with a global war.
That too is a two way street. "Man up."
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Tbh if NPO had changed surely NPO should have not signed treaties with ONLY alliances that are directly trying to oppose MK and it's allies. By signing with them NPO therefore placed a sign on their backs saying quite clearly and intently NPO wish to oppose MK and it's allies.
If NPO had a mix of treaties then I would agree with the current sentiment that NPO posed little to no risk but this is not the case the intention/purpose to pose harm is there you can't excuse it by saying "NPO did nothing". -
[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1296153677' post='2605882']
I'm not sure when they were considered scary, but I think they've proven themselves more honorable recently than I used to consider them pre-Karma War. While some people can't let go of old grudges and harp on the past, they've carved out a new image for themselves as one of the better alliances.
Good luck to TPF in their war, make them burn. o/
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Not really...
TPF has always been a dogpiling alliance...we witness it today and we saw it during the numerous wars that TPF participated (mostly curbstomps) in with OPP alliances in tow... -
[quote name='boscher' timestamp='1296149888' post='2605789']
and to think that TPF was once a feared alliance
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It went down hill after Slayer left...shows how important a leader is... -
Wow talking about TOP is popular these days...
Hopefully we can see TOP do some talking on a battlefield... -
[quote name='lebubu' timestamp='1296124532' post='2605274']
The mid/upper tiers of the alliances that hit GOONS will likely never get to see the light of war mode ever again.
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I hope you're wrong... -
[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1296007782' post='2601577']
The sad thing is its true. You were bricking it NPO might become strong again someday and even the C&G/PB/DH/SF et al combined NS wasnt enough to calm your nerves so you attacked them out of fear.
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Naaa just finishing off what never got finished... -
[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1296000880' post='2601281']
There were four hours between MK's DoW and update. The counter DoWs should have been posted an hour after that.
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The calibre of allies is clear... -
[quote name='PotFace' timestamp='1295994917' post='2601095']
As opposed to recklessly declaring unprovoked war? I don't even need to touch the scales... you yourselves have tipped them in our favor [i]for[/i] us. Hey, thanks for that by the way.
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I would love for NpO to come knocking for MK...
Infact I hope what you have said is true because I can honestly say that it will be very much welcomed...not as much as destorying purple sphere mind you but it's up there.
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[quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1295975433' post='2600389']
Here's the thing, though... after the dust settles, do you really believe someone's not going to come for you? You've just proven to the entire Cyberverse that you are more than willing to attack someone out of the blue. You have to be willing to acknowledge that, not only might someone get the same idea about you someday, but that they absolutely will do it to you.
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Indeed...where is your issue?
I don't get it... -
[quote name='Viking' timestamp='1295970039' post='2600179']
I'm pretty sure GOD's moral compass is squarely where it was when Karma was going on. It might be normal for your alliance to chase a PR victory or whatever by swapping the way you interact with the world, but some of us prefer a more consistent and honest path.
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Indeed GOD is consistent...
GOD = Piggyback masters.
Your're just sore you can't piggyback MK into war like once possible. -
[quote name='Viking' timestamp='1295967918' post='2600125']
They had the chance to finish this years ago and wanted to whiteknight for every moralist in the game. In doing so, they all had choice words for people like me who wanted to end it there, only to now take advantage of the situation and roll tanks after NPO did nothing wrong. It's the height of spineless and if you don't think it is I have a wonderful bridge you might be willing to purchase.
Don't give me that tired explanation of "herp we're at war look at our backbone." I don't buy it, and most others don't as well.[/quote]
Oh dear...
I remember Xiphosis stopping a potential war because he thought GOD and SF would get their NS wiped...lucky for us all then that we only had to wait a few weeks for the real deal and as always no harm to GOD's ns...yes indeedy.
[quote name='Viking' timestamp='1295967918' post='2600125']This would be accurate if I had a history of trying to give white peace to my enemies at the expense of my allies, and GOD has never done that. MK, though.....[/quote]
Yes MK gives white peace...still butthurt MK and TOP are friends eh? -
[quote name='Seipher Caim' timestamp='1295964841' post='2600060']
I'm disappointed in many ways but one of the sadest thing to see here si the amount of paradoxians hailing MK & Co. Very sad...
Don't give yourself too much credit... Preempting a target is nothing new and you dont create anything... You just used a technic you criticized last war.
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Who said preempting is new?
Oh and yes TOP woke us up...
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Ahhh war...so delicious. I need I need more bodycounts for my nation!