[Why I've Come to Hate Debates and Arguments]

It goes both ways. If I make an argument and provide facts to back it up, my opponent would just shrug it off and vice versa. Someone could say something you think is completely idiotic and provide factual evidence to support it, and most people would still shrug it off because they just can't find themselves agreeing with the statement. Which is why debate is pointless.

What's right or wrong is subjective. What I think is right you may think is wrong, which is why even most "intellectual debates" turn into dick measuring contests.

If the position is idiotic, yet they have facts in it most of the time they are misapplying the facts or using some type of fallacy. If your side is the one with the correct logic and in line with reality your side is the correct one. The inability of your opponent to recognize he lost does not change the fact that you are right, it just means he is an idiot and shouldn't be trying to argue. Thrawn is also right, you rarely pull your opponent on your side, debates are for the people watching. Hopefully the people watching aren't persuaded by bad logic and bad evidence.

[Why I've Come to Hate Debates and Arguments]

If someone is plain wrong and they ignore all the points and evidence brought on from the other side of the argument, they are intellectually dishonest at best. This is more of a comment on the pettiness of people rather than debates and arguments