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[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1295384230' post='2581959'] Excellent midday blitz FOK. Tear NpO to shreds, but make sure they get their punishment they escaped last time. [/quote] I wouldn't exactly call it excellent with UINE nations being attacked 'mistakenly' they really should be more careful un needed cost for them.

[quote name='Muddog' timestamp='1295382936' post='2581929'] 100 to 1? I'll take 200 tech that somebody joins in with Polar. [/quote] i take 500 if someone jumps in on NpO's side and give 2000tech if they dont

[quote name='erikz' timestamp='1295378971' post='2581802'] Any smart alliance would also make it a standard to compile target lists from alliances on the other side of the fence regularly. Lets say at least once a month.... This way you can roll asap when needed. [/quote] Any 'smart' AA would also get their nations to double check before causing a PR disaster no matter how small. But I guess FOK is scared of NpO's allies and feels the need to war on alliances who arent currently involved so have an ounce of a chance if NpO's allies do show up

Rudolph was there and saw most of the communication mainly the communication between me and the rogues and the other govt so i wouldnt call him a puppet for sitting in the channel watching whats happening

[quote name='AmbroseIV' timestamp='1294533201' post='2569063'] I know it was Anson, but you were there and it was quite obviously a stance dictated by someone else. Several UINE members were there - and I, in fact, wasn't there. But I've got the logs - logs where it's a big joke to UINE: you claim you can't afford to pay reps, can't even give AiD whitepeace because because there was no DoW, AiD might have to pay you to peace out, etc... Not so funny now, eh? [/quote] I did not dictate to anyone to declare war on anyone. I dictated specifically not to declare war on anyone. and our then MoF decided he would ignore me and go ahead and do the opposite of what I said. I will admit I thought it would be funny but I at no point said sure go do it because I knew what the consequences would be.

[quote name='Toshiro Hitsugaya' timestamp='1294532850' post='2569055'] Well here you go with more lies. RnR has all the logs, so you are making your self look like a bigger fool then you already are. Also I do not have to try and tear UINE apart you do that well enough. Not to mention you are constantly trying to put this on myself and Anson opposed to accepting responsibility to your on mistakes. This will be my last post in this thread, because it just really needs to end, whats done is done. You Fail. [/quote] oh yes i fail because i told the MoF that i would not be declaring war and because i tried to sort something out with them provisionally until keve arrived to agree to anything.

[quote name='AmbroseIV' timestamp='1294531787' post='2569037'] I can also debunk that, Ego - we've held a treaty with Echelon (in some form) for four years come the end of January and it's been on our wiki the whole time. Whilst the R&R one might be new, it's probably easier to just admit that UINE hoped we had no allies and they* didn't really make an effort to check. However Joe, one question if I may: when did it actually occur to you that we had no allies...? Before an (admittedly fair) offer of reps was made following raids by 2 UINE nations... or a day later when 3 more UINE nations attacked and you changed your stance to "If you want any sort of reparations, you will need to war it out of us"? *edit [/quote] You will find that was anson who said that not me. please re check your logs. however i did check your wiki and i also talked to your guys. infact was it not you who i was asking if you had any allies?

[quote name='Toshiro Hitsugaya' timestamp='1294532162' post='2569042'] Here you go again pretending like you were there. Well all I can say is that... the last thing UINE needed was big-joe dealing with it, perhaps you have not been reading. Secondly I did leave UINE and so did the rest of its active membership, because nobody with any ounce of actual commonsense would stick around in a fail alliance. [/quote] erm rudolph was there in fact he was sitting talking to me you and anson about the whole situation and giving his two cents you really should re read your logs. hitsu your posts are just smelling of more and more fail in your attempts to rip UINE to shreads. Also you would rather the person who decided to declare war on AiD as MoF dealt with the situation. I would rather the MoD who said no dont do it dealt with the situation

[quote name='Toshiro Hitsugaya' timestamp='1294521246' post='2568833'] Hmmm well what is the reason behind what I mentioned above how yet another so called "rogue" is being aided (last time I checked we don't legibly aid rogues). Also Keve69 can come into our IRC channel and leave several times and send people in to lurk, yet he cannot come on here and answer simple questions? How cowardly. [/quote] if the rogue is being aided then as i have stated numerous times they should be dealt with as stated in the terms of our deal with RnR. We have already warned all our nations that if they aid the rogues they will be warred by RnR. Keve has been and still is deep rooted in negotiations on IRC.

[quote name='The Iggy' timestamp='1294473830' post='2568453'] Over 100k NS of damage (closing on half of AID's NS) was inflicted according to their chart; I think the damages are over 500M. Their protectors should rightfully be after blood. No comment as to the masking but note it is typical to treat rogues differently than ghosts. The term was [i]expel[/i] as opposed to [i]ZI[/i] (or both, eitherway); and I would trust such a term to be honoured if it was the price to wash yourselves of responsibility. As such forcing them off the AA with wars if necessary, and waiting a good while before readmittance would be minimally expected- They are not 'ghosts' and there is a government agreement to enforce. Hails to Echelon and RnR; May AID multiply swiftly. edit: don't know where I picked up the reps figure. double edit: Someone said 93mil- That's very reasonable if that's the figure touted as extortion. [/quote] only a small proposion of that damage was inflicted by the rogues. they had a nation who had quit and had opened him self up for warring with another alliance. I beleive AiD can back me up on this.

mkay lets get one thing straight this is a simple mistake it didnt get taken care of straight away it should have been. But this is in no way deliberate. this is the last time im going to say it because quite frankly im bored of repeating myself to you; someone who is quite obviously a !@#$ stirrer.

whatever. im just trying to say here any non-unmasking was not deliberate and was certainly not in the original terms however it has now been adhered to. So please stop accusing me of things which just frankly are not true im a truthful honest person and it actually upsets me that anyone would say otherwise since it is what i model my whole life on

keve and only keve at the end of the day we are a small alliance but as with my server i am very security conscious about who ever has access to anything. we are a small alliance i dont have 10 people as group leaders.

yep of course i making up the fact that i have an acousmatics exam and an events managament exam in two days. and that i run five forums and about 3 websites with a combined bandwidth of about 1Gb a day. and a total server usage of about 10GB. as well as coding an irc bot.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1294467880' post='2568326'] [color="#0000FF"]Yes, you expelled them tonight I believe after others discovered your duplicity. The fact that it has taken as long as it did suggests some intent, and even complicity, on the part of the government of the UINE on the matter of the "rogue" attacks on RnR.[/color] [/quote] I'm sorry that i wasnt faster removing them from the forums after all its not like i have any coding to do or anythign or any university exams that are in two days to revise for perhaps when you 12 year olds get to the age of going to university you will understand.

[quote name='Toshiro Hitsugaya' timestamp='1294467810' post='2568323'] I have seen UINE reject members in the past from the AA so it would seem so, even though according to big-joe UINE suddenly no longer "ghost-busts" Also for those of you who just got in, Big-Joe the Minister of Defense came on our channel not too long ago and said he was going to roll us and did not care about RnR... that is why he is trembling to death about getting a ZI. yet he is still the acting Minister of Defense. lolz *facepalm* [/quote] nah quite frankly i couldnt give a monkeys brass !@#$ anymore ive had it with this game and the morons in it. If RnR wanna ZI me then go for it. also please note UINE has never had a policy of Ghostbusting. Im sure we had a ministers disscussion about this while you were acting MoE if not it was in the Ministry archives

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1294467628' post='2568312'] [color="#0000FF"]So, I take it UINE kept these members around with the intent of rebuilding them after they went rogue? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.[/color] [/quote] your wrong. the members were expelled.

[quote name='Toshiro Hitsugaya' timestamp='1294467484' post='2568310'] At the expense of the MoD big-joe who is apparently afraid of being Zi-ed. Mhmmmmm okay. The mistake was sending big-joe out here. [/quote] kthx no one is sending me anywhere im speaking for myself.

[quote name='Toshiro Hitsugaya' timestamp='1294467146' post='2568297'] Personally I think the Leadership of an alliance does not get enough credit, apparently like big-joe has said Keve69 is away on vacation... from what I have heard they keep faltering out of every deal now they are aiding the rogues... and in the mean while big-joe (UINE MoD) has been sent by Keve69... apparently to embarrass UINE further, all the while he has been here reading everything that has been going on for the past 2 hours and has choose not to say 2 words. Once again failure at taking responsibility. [/quote] funnily enough you again hitsu have completely the wrong end of your uninformed stick go back to the library and read up on everything youve missed in the past few days since you left the alliance Sorry just expand a bit i was sent here by no-one. i said keve was on holiday. we havent faultered on every deal they were renegotiated before we had a chance to honour them. keve is busy talking with NpO and RnR trying to get some sense out of them. and i am sitting here ready to quit this god forsaken game. no wonder the amount of users in this game has halfed in the past year or so

they have been kicked from the alliance RnR is dealing with them as agreed. why the hell should we pay AiD for a [b][size="5"]ROGUE[/size][/b] attack. we have already dealt with all this can it just be dropped now we had an agreement for you guys to war/ZI the nations aproapriatelty.

our deal hasnt been broken we have done everything RnR has asked for within reason its up to you to war the rogue nations. if a member has broken the deal we agreed upon then that nation should be dealt with accordingly not the leadership

im sorry and i should hit my peace button because im about to be ZI'd for doing what frankly amounts to nothing harmful to anyone

i think the RnR tag at the end of the name says it all if members are gonna act like tha. its not just govt that represent an alliance its the whole membership

[2011-01-08 04:56:38] [INFO] Now logging to <file:ModEdit>. [2011-01-08 04:56:38] [INFO] Query view for ``Lincoln[RnR|Tri]'' opened. [2011-01-08 04:56:39] === Lincoln[RnR|Tri] <lincolncoe@ModEdit> ``Lincoln Coe'' [2011-01-08 04:56:39] === Lincoln[RnR|Tri] is a registered nick [2011-01-08 04:56:39] === Lincoln[RnR|Tri]: member of %#UINE, %#cnsparta, #MHA, @#armageddon, #rnrnews, %#mosw, #cnolympus, &#CSN-RNR, @#newbros, #nso, %#RoK, %#iron, %#CMEA, %#cksoffice, +#gso, &#jjsoffice, @#allieddefense, ~#sf-te, ~#superfriends-te, %#csn, %#ria, +#leo, @#rnr_state, and &#rnr [2011-01-08 04:56:39] === Lincoln[RnR|Tri]: attached to ice.coldfront.net ``Welcome to Coldfront!'' [2011-01-08 04:56:39] --- End of WHOIS information for Lincoln[RnR|Tri]. [2011-01-08 04:56:56] <big-joe[uine-mod]> mkay so i hear you guys wanna ZI me and keve? [2011-01-08 04:57:07] <Lincoln[RnR|Tri]> Let's assume so [2011-01-08 04:57:10] <Lincoln[RnR|Tri]> You have a response? [2011-01-08 04:57:27] <big-joe[uine-mod]> i plead innocent to whatever charges are being brought against me [2011-01-08 04:57:40] <Lincoln[RnR|Tri]> So... UINE doesn't agree to the terms? [2011-01-08 04:57:46] <big-joe[uine-mod]> lol what [2011-01-08 04:57:49] <big-joe[uine-mod]> what terms? [2011-01-08 04:58:23] <big-joe[uine-mod]> i only heard i was about to be ZI'd for something [2011-01-08 04:58:35] <Lincoln[RnR|Tri]> who told you that xD [2011-01-08 04:58:46] <big-joe[uine-mod]> keve [2011-01-08 04:58:51] <Lincoln[RnR|Tri]> ah cool [2011-01-08 04:58:52] <Lincoln[RnR|Tri]> then he agreed [2011-01-08 04:59:01] <big-joe[uine-mod]> what terms? [2011-01-08 04:59:11] <Lincoln[RnR|Tri]> Why don't you ask him? [2011-01-08 04:59:19] <big-joe[uine-mod]> why wont you tell me [2011-01-08 04:59:31] <big-joe[uine-mod]> after all my name is being mentioned for being ZI'd here [2011-01-08 04:59:36] <Lincoln[RnR|Tri]> It's one of those things that's better coming from a friend [2011-01-08 04:59:43] <big-joe[uine-mod]> jsut tell me [2011-01-08 04:59:47] <Lincoln[RnR|Tri]> ask him [2011-01-08 04:59:53] <big-joe[uine-mod]> why should i ask him [2011-01-08 05:00:00] <big-joe[uine-mod]> your here right now you tell me [2011-01-08 05:00:08] <big-joe[uine-mod]> its you guys who want to ZI me so tell me [2011-01-08 05:02:11] <big-joe[uine-mod]> so lets get this straight [2011-01-08 05:02:20] <big-joe[uine-mod]> you guys want to ZI me for threat [2011-01-08 05:02:41] <big-joe[uine-mod]> the threat that was made when i first discovered that he had done somethign with my forums [2011-01-08 05:02:53] <big-joe[uine-mod]> the somethign which i cannot 100% proove [2011-01-08 05:03:17] <big-joe[uine-mod]> and am not currently proceeding to do anythign about [2011-01-08 05:03:33] <big-joe[uine-mod]> wow thats manly of you guys [2011-01-08 05:04:04] <big-joe[uine-mod]> ZIing a guy for being human and getting angry when his server which hosts 5 forums on it gets hacked