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  3. Ok, admit it, you spent the last few weeks watching Olympic Curling

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted · Edited by SnowCrash

    [quote name='Legend' date='10 March 2010 - 12:48 PM' timestamp='1268243616' post='2221053']
    Guess what dude, the Wiki is not the most official and credible information source. Just imagine if I am to erase NADC and RE's wiki, does it mean PC or any other tech raiding alliance is allowed to raid our protectorate, RE?
    [/quote]

    If you erased it and erased it from your public treaty list, you just created a case of entrapment. Which would nullify any potential compensation.


    Edit: reading comprehension ftw.

  4. Ok, admit it, you spent the last few weeks watching Olympic Curling

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted · Edited by SnowCrash

    [quote name='Poyplemonkeys' date='10 March 2010 - 12:09 PM' timestamp='1268241297' post='2221009']
    Echelon's public treaty list was up to date. Echelon's wikipedia was up to date. There was no OWF posting of SBA's disbandment. There was no OWF posting of an SBA merge into Echelon. There was no OWF posting of a protectorate cancellation between Echelon and SBA.

    The only sources they had were the wiki of SBA, which can and will be edited by anyone. Hell I just checked Nemesis' because last I checked it was horrendously out of date. Someone has updated it, no idea who. Locke has updated Nemesis' wiki in the past (a flag update iirc) and he has nothing to do with Nemesis and never has. Anyone claiming the wikipedia should be a valid source of information rather than a reference point before you go on to look at various other far more reliable sources is talking out of their arse.
    [/quote]

    Uhuh, you know these were up to date because you checked them before the raid took place right? PC has been around the block a few times, this isn't their first rodeo. They know what to do and how to do it. The wiki is a valid reference point, however it has already been made clear that PC took additional steps to find out the disposition of SBA's situation. They came to the conclusion that SBA had disbanded and they were a legitimate raid target.

    What this boils down to is Echelon doesn't want to accept the responsibility of keeping things up to date. They knowingly tried to cover up their mistakes by editing the wiki and erasing SBA's disbandment. They failed as a protector. I would feel the same way, if Athens did not update our wiki or public treaty list, letting the world know who we were protecting.

    This affair should be a lesson to everyone who maintains protectorates to keep their wiki & public treaty lists current. It is no great feat of effort to do these simple things, which would help to mitigate circumstances such as these.

    Edit: spelling is my friend.

  5. Ok, admit it, you spent the last few weeks watching Olympic Curling

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

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    [quote name='Ruggerdawg' date='10 March 2010 - 10:23 AM' timestamp='1268234922' post='2220940']
    The last [b][i]public[/i][/b] link is dated October. If you had a member mask, you'd see more recent posts.
    [/quote]

    Maybe you should take 5 mins and update the public list? I mean your members took the time to update the wiki after the raids occurred.

    It is no secret that raiding alliances use the wiki, the OWF and alliance forums to figure out who is protected and who isn't. Nation bios have never been considered a credible source and to argue it is, is ludicrous. It is Echelon's fault for not keeping their Wiki and the public treaty list up to date, as a result of your failures, you should be culpable for any damages to your protectorate.

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