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  1. so, the second a nation joins any alliance, they completely lose their sovereign, individual rights to make friendships and arrangements with other nations that they are friends with? they just become slave to the decisions of their alliance's leadership, and can no longer make any ties for themselves? wow, that's real nice.

    Once a nation joins a alliance they have made the choice to sapport their alliance above all other issue. Did that nation and its ruler not choose to join the alliance in the first place?

    BIGMAC is NOT an alliance.

    We a are a group of girls who want a get away so to speak of the guys who don't choose to respect us. It is a save haven really.

    If you are being disrespected by anyone in your alliance be it male or female you should take it to your alliance leadership and if it is the leadership direspecting you then you should find another alliance.

    We are not an alliance it says so in it's opening lines. There is no charter that goes along with it. We simply are stating that we are friends and refuse to break the bonds of sisterhood that we made by signing this treaty. This treaty isn't a requirement for admittance into BIGMAC. It is simply something that we've agreed upon.

    So you are agreeing to disobey your alliance that you have made a pledge to sapport and defend? That sounds like a wonderful idea.

    we have no government.

    we have no ruling body.

    we have no recruitment.

    we have no charter.

    we have no do's/don't's for signatories.

    we offer no mutual military action.

    we offer no economic assistance for each other.

    we have no central- or even common- ideology.

    all we have is a group of women who want to hang out in the company of other women in CN.

    in the spirit of sisterhood (and generally being more mature and level-headed than our non-female counterparts) we agree, as sovereign and individual leaders, not to take agressive action against each other.

    speaking as an alliance leader, i will say that i find no reason to be upset, angered, or threatened by a group of individual friends from different organizations saying "hey, we're going to hang out together and we're promising not to fight each other." such strong friendships should not be restricted to within alliance walls.

    I dont think you are speaking as a alliance leader, i think you are speaking as a woman who wants this to be accepted no matter how it is shown to be a bad idea.

    And as far as the No recruitment.....what do you Call inviting all female players to join you?

    We do have forums and an IRC channel.

    Forums and a IRC you say, would you discuss the member of your alliance with other females in ths forum/IRC? would you discuss your alliances in general?

    As a leader of CON I wouldnt want our membership to join in on this for the purpose of information about CON being shared with members of another alliance. I dont think splitting a nations loyalty is a good idea at all.

  2. You know, a year or so ago, the only people that used "hail!" or even "o/" were the Orders (and i'm not including GOONS in that list). Why, I even remember the NAAC and ODN complaining feverishly that our hailing was stupid, annoying, etc, etc. Nowadays, not only do our old hated enemies use this particular form of expression, everyone in this bloody game uses it. And no one knows where it came from! Well, for all your newbies out there, I'm here to enlighten you. The NPO started the hailing craze. That's right. The NPO that everyone either openly hates or secretly hates, deep down inside. I've seen NAAC, ODN, Legion, GATO, LUE, UJP alliances, even freaking FAN use it.

    I understand this may be seem a bit disjointed and rambling. Well, I'm sorry, i just woke up, and felt like something had to be said about the fact that YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF THIEVES!

    When did we start hating NPO? damnit why does no one ever tell me these things?

    And for the record NPO has always been good to me and CON so to say everyone openly or secretly hates you is just wrong. How could we hate the alliance that sent us one of the coolest diplomats ever? Oh yea, we got Steveywondermac and he is way cool and always does a good job. Not to take away from any of the other awesome diplomats we have.

    EDIT.....forgot o/

  3. I'd love for you people to show some examples of "what they've done in the past."

    well for one \M/ gave us permission to declare on Rock82 when he first joinned them and we brought our problems with him to their IRC, then ten minutes later said nevermind and forced me to give them 100 tech unless i wanted a alliance war.

  4. Ok Krager quick question and last... a week after all the issue with my nation NOT being deleted but me sending out all the money to other people in the CON... why didnt the problems start then???? but the SECOND THE SECOND I ACCEPTED 3 MILLION DOLLARS CAUSE SOMEONE SPONCERED ME AND GAVE ME 3 MILL OF THERE OWN MONEY AND I TOLD YOU CAUSE YOU WERNT MY LEADER. YOU WERE INCHARGE OF RECRUITING AT THE TIME I TOLD YOU TO MIND YOUR BUSINESS AND GET LAID... THAT IS WHEN THIS WHOLE PROBLEM STARTED.......................... THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT... LOL YOUR IN YOUR 30'S YOUR ON A COMPUTER ALL DAY RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A SO CALLED EXCUSE TO BE ON THE COMPUTER CAUSE YOU GOT HIT BY A CAR I GUESS... BUT BEFORE YOU WERE ON 24/7 STILL... SO YES YOU DID NEED TO GET LAID CAUSE YOU WERE GETTING PISSY FOR ME ACCEPTING MONEY FOR ME WANTING TO ADVANCE MY NATION TO GROW.. TO WANT TO TRY TO HELP THE CON... I DID HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS.. I NEVER WANTED TO LEAVE THE CON... AND AT ONE POINT IN TIME OF THIS WAR I DID ASK IF I COULD EVER COME BACK TO THE CON... BUT NOW THAT I SEE ALL OF YOU BACK STABBING PEOPLE YEAH... WELL THATS A NO.... I AM DELETING MY NATION BUT I HAVE A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HELP ME REBUILD MY NATION THANKFULLY.... I ADMIT WHEN I FIRST STARTED MY NATION I HAD NO FREAKIN CLUE WHAT THE HECK I WAS DOING... I THOUGHT YOU COULD HAVE SEVERAL ALLIANCES LIKE THE U.S DOES LOL.... I DIDNT KNOW YOU COULD ONLY HAVE ONE... I DIDNT KNOW... SO I PUT 2 DIFF ALLIANCES TOGETHER IN THE AA THING.. AND I DID TAKE SOME MONEY BUT I HAD NO CLUE WAHT THIS GAME WAS ABOUT TILL I FOUND THE CON... I THOUGHT I FOUND A FAMILY.... I REALLY LIKED EVERYONE.. I NEVER WANTED TO LEAVE AND I NEVER EVER WANTED TO MAKE A MISTAKE BUT EVERYONE DOES... CON SERIOUSLY I AM SORRY... BUT IM HUMAN PEOPLE DO MAKE MISTAKES AND THIS IS A GAME.... I MADE A MISTAKE AND AT THE TIME I ONLY HAD A MONTH IN AT THE GAME.. NOW I HAVE 3 MONTHS IN AT THE GAME.... IM LEARNING MORE AND MORE.... BUT KRAGER A LEADER LEADS BY EXAMPLE.... LOOK WHAT YOUR SHOWING YOUR PEOPLE... WHAT ARE YOU TEACHING THEM? REVENGE CAUSE SOMEONE TOLD YOU TO GET LAID? LOL SERIOUSLY. I HONESTLY NEVER TOOK ANY OF THAT MONEY... ALL OF THOSE NATIONS WERE G/F'S THAT I DID HAVE AT ONE POINT JUST DIDNT LIKE THE GAME AND DIDNT GET INTO IT AFTER I LEFT.. OR BROKE UP WITH THEM.. CON AGAIN IM SORRY.... I REALLY DID CARE ABOUT YOU GUYS... AND I NEVER DID WANT TO ATTACK YOU GUYS YOU CAN ASK SOL AND KRAGER I TOLD THEM I WOULD NEVER ATTACK ANY OF YOU CAUSE YOUR FAMILY... AND I WONT YOU CAN ALL ATTACK ME ALL YOU WANT BUT IM GOING TO BE THE BIGGER MAN... ATTACK ME ALL YOU WANT I WONT ATTACK BACK ZI ME. ILL GO DOWN THEN WHAT... ILL COME BACK ILL BE AROUND BUT YOU WONT KNOW CAUSE ILL BE UNDER A DIFF NAME;-) ILL BE YOUR BEST FRIEND AGAIN LOL AND YOU WILL NEVER KNOW. LATER EVERYONE

    Was there an OOC attack upon me in that post? I feel kinda insulted.

  5. For one i have a GOVERMENT COMPUTER.... IT CHANGES IP ADDRESS... and no my friends did join the con but left when i left.. my ex g/f joined and my other ex g/f joined i could keep going... i told SOL when i joined a few others would follow with me if i joined the con and they did... thats not me stealing Dip stick.

    Dip stick? lol, very nice. well when the "nations" you recruited all went inactive and were deleted right after you collected for recruitting them, and the IP address's they registered under where linked back to you.....look I am done with this conversation, your a thief and a liar, you use your OOC life to gain sympathy from people and use it to your IC advantage.

  6. BS.... lol they wernt going to go to alliance war cause they freaking kicked me out.. when i first applied ... then i talked to brother kane some more and argued more and more saying i only took that 3 mill from deadhorse NOTHING MORE... we had a nation we were putting money into... a nation i was logging onto with my same computer... i cant aid my self i wasnt building the nation how was i stealing the money that was being aided to it??? I CANT.. you cant aid your self thats what the rules say and i couldnt since i logged on with the same computer.. it couldnt be done impossible... and i wasnt getting 3 mill here and 3 mill there... no i had that 1 time 3 mill from Dead horse... and Brother Kane said we will drop it and cleared it all and told M and M let me join... M wasnt going to start a war over somone NEW PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

    and Warriors Concepts reply to this is?

    and I have 5 IP addresses for you so far. not to mention that many of the recruits you brought in were eventually linked back to being accounts you created. So all the cash you accepted for recruiting those "nations" was also theft.

  7. First off I had a sponcer when i was in con.. yes that is true.. I agreed when i was leaving to pay that 3 million back... but instead they wanted me to pay 9 Million dollars back for me getting 3 millon.. See story goes like this my brother had a nation he left and i was watching it... i made the mistake in telling someone we were using it as a bank. That person went and reported me to CN well quickly i moved money not really knowing who i was sending money to or really caring at the time cause i was about to be deleted.. for something i didnt know at the time was wrong.. so the money got scattered i dont know where but I DiD not have it any more... That nation has since been deleted by CN.

    Second Krager is pissed off at me cause i had a sponcer. He said i was stealing from the nation. First this guy decided he wanted to give the money to ME.. it wasnt up to the whole CON... this guy wanted to help me grow larger cause i told the guy my future plans with the con and how i wanted to help.. so he wanted to help me get there... I wanted to be able to adopt 3 nations and send them each 3 mill every 10 days... so me getting 3 mill every 10 days from that one guy would of helped the con out alot more in the long run.

    Third Brother Kane talked with \M/ and cleared me of those charges cause when i first joined \M/ and found out i owed money.. they kicked me out... then i went back and talked to brother kane from the CON... and he told me to never mind the charges and to just go... he went and told \M/ and \M/ Accepted me into there Great alliance...ive made alot of great friends..Gabriel Thanks for helping me with this thread. your awsome.

    Not only did you gain a sponcer but you continued to messege many of the other large nations asking for further aid.

    I never made any claim to you stealing from the nation who mentored you, i made claim that you stole the cash that was sent to you to pay out on aid chains to our new members and academy graduates.....you claimed to have payed them and you had not.

    As I explained to you at that time Rock we wanted to work on the CON average strength and the three mill being sent t you would have been better spent on a small nation who would gain 2k NS from the three mill rather then the 20 NS you were getting. Sorry that you thought of only yourself and took it personaly.

    And Brother Kane had no option but to drop the money owed to us because \M/ was saying if we did not they would go straight to alliance war.

  8. well cant really afford a different url right now.

    but i have no arguements about him stealing money but it has boiled down to a personal issue between them,

    as for yesterday i found it disrespectful even being a former member of CON that degen83 was attacked while a POW. even by two senators nonetheless.

    i went to personally apologize degen83 for their actions they took. bcuz i was insulted myself that a senate member of my old alliance which i invested so much up to like 2 weeks ago took action like that without diplomacy first.

    i might be seen as a troll right now but everything i say is the truth and just.

    Both of those members thought he was breaking surrender terms, we admitted our mistake and declared peace with degen83. And as degen83 said our issue with him is closed. Play your political game else where.

  9. No, for a few reasons:

    1) I'm not one of those who subcribes to the "Private Channels" method - if someone has something to say to me, they should say it in the open. I will do the same in return. I agree there are some situations where Private Channels are preferable, however, this plus the following two reasons combined brought me to an alternate conclusion this time.

    2) Rock told me he had already spoken to you extensively. I do not represent him, we are no longer in the same alliance. But I did get on with him, and as such I was and am willing to help. He informed me that you were not budging on this, thus this post.

    3) I'm not going to lie, this post was designed as more than just asking you to drop the tech payment - I intended to point out that the Justice League is not as rosy as some may have been lead to believe.

    If what you are saying is true, however, I do owe you an apology.

    I got along with Rock very well and spent much time with him on the phone talking about CN and other OOC topics, but in the end he showed himself to only be enterested in his own advancement. when he first joinned CON we had to pay out 500k to a trade partner of Rocks that he had basicaly ripped off. then GGA ZI'd Rocks "brothers" nation because that nation had stolen 3 mill from GGA. I believe Rock admitted to Bilrow that it was in fact a multi account and Bilrow reported it to the CN MODS. Then Rock was our Bank Minister and was saying he had paid people for their new member aid and Academy Aid when he had not. He also came up with a wonderful idea of having a CON nation mentor him tell he was large enough to provide aid to smaller nations....his idea of large enough was 40k NS even though the nation helping him was only 35k. I spoke to Rock about how that aid he was getting would be put to better use going to nations smaller then himself and he told me to "stay out of his buisiness". When he and I continued to fight he left the CON to go to \M/ where we got into that oh so wonderful situation with \M/. So you can see that there is alot behind this story and its not just the CON putting outragious demands on \M/ nations for surrender.

  10. This couldnt have been handled in private channels? but Rock82 did take off from CON with alot of our money and when we sent a director to the \M/ IRC they gave him permission for us to declare on him, then I did declare on him...no more then ten minutes later Warriors Concept came online and was very upset and made me pay 100 tech for the honer of not being in a alliance war.....so not only did Rock82 take off with 9 mill of our alliance money but also cost me 100 tech. Next time private channels.

  11. wouldnt \M/ need to talk to the alliances that declared war on them? But I dont see why many \M/ nations are surrendering to Legion when they havent even been in a war with legion nations, I think \M/ is just trying to be sneaky about the surrender and are going with legion because they think it offers them a way out without having to pay anything.

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